BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 05:19 AM

It would have been nice had I checked "Emily" there with my reading glasses on. 😂

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 06:05 AM

Thats a bit of a hagiography of Simon Dee, Big Al, I know its bad to speak ill of the dead but he was largely the author of his own misfortunes. He joined the BBC from Radio Caroline to ge into TV. He then played the BBC off against ITV in order to satisfy his salary demands (which were large by todays standards when you take inflation into account). He then went back to Radio Caroline to campaign against the BBC. He even supported Radio Caroline when they supported the Conservative party! Then he did a stint in Pentonville for non payment of rates.

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 02:42 PM

my main memory of him was that he had a teatime programme with all the best bands on.

one time i remember he filled the water jug with vodka, Roger Moore was the victim, he took a long draught, then jumped up as though he had been struck by lightning.

the rumour was that Dee was a piss head. i was quite sorry when he was fired.

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: Shakey
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 07:25 AM

Hundreds of IT roles at the BBC are to be offshored to cheaper wage locations, under a £560m contract renewal coming into force with its incumbent outsourcing giant Atos.

If they're going to act like a multi-national then they should be financed like one and the licence should be scrapped.

For the record I'm not in favour of either.

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 01:27 PM

I am able to analyze the consequence of current events.

Brexiteers and Trumpeteers seem to take pleasure from analizing their fetish fascist feelings.

Its called having their head up their ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 05:09 AM

my fascist fetish feelings, up me bum....

i don't know what you're talking about Don, but I'm not arguing. You give the party, I'll be there! sounds like no end of fun!

Subject: RE: BS: Radio and TV presenter's wages.
From: MikeofNorthumbria
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 07:44 AM

After reading right through this correspondence with increasing frustration, I did a word-search for 'Agent'. Not one mention came up, so I'll put one in.

AGENT: a person employed by stars (and by most other folk in showbiz) to arrange their gigs and negotiate pay for same.

Presumably all these performers have agents? Presumably these agents negotiate with the BBC and agree a contract which binds the 'star' to do certain things in exchange for a certain sum of money? And if the BBC's offer isn't acceptable, won't the agent offer their client's services to another broadcaster, in hopes of getting a better deal?

So, are these allegedly extravagant (and allegedly gender-biassed) pay deals not simply the result of a free market in talent?

Meanwhile, on the other side of the great divide, there are technicians, office staff, cleaners and canteen workers who have standard pay scales. They don't have agents, they have unions. And further down the ladder there are the interns, who have neither agents nor unions, and consequently have to live on hope (and their parents' generosity). What all these lesser folk have in common is that their pay is negotiated from a position of weakness, whereas the pay of 'stars' is negotiated from a position of strength.

In the world we live in, the word "fair" does not apply to pay negotiations. The star who thinks he or she is not being paid 'fairly' should consider getting a more effective agent agent.   The ordinary wage-earner who thinks he or she is not being paid fairly needs to join a union.

This whole gender pay-gap issue is a distraction, designed to divert attention from the efforts of Murdoch and his supporters inside the government to destroy the BBC altogether. I hope they fail ...

Wassail!