BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Jul 17 - 09:45 PM

The Forrestal fire happened in 1967. John McCain was born in 1936, so he was 31 at the time. Shortly after that, he was captured and spent 5-1/2 life-changing years as a prisoner of war. He ran for President in 2008, 41 years after the Forrestal incident.

Seems to me, it would be foolhardy to bring up the Forrestal incident as an issue, that long after it happened.

Who can tell us what Donald Trump was doing forty-one years ago?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: robomatic
Date: 29 Jul 17 - 09:58 PM

I just want to be clear Donuel that your reference to me on 28 Jul 17 06:18AM was erroneous. I had not made any comment regarding John McCain and his presence on the USS Forrestal.

There has been a bogus attempt to brand McCain with culpability in that horrible Vietnam War era accident which only goes to show that anyone can have enemies who will say absolutely anything at the drop of a hat if they think it will cast an aspersion or muddy the waters. That bogosity predates the internet and is not related to this thread.

McCain is an honorable man whose politics are not my politics. He has experienced below-the-belt attacks while himself running relatively honorable campaigns, so far as I know. That means a lot in this day and age.

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jul 17 - 08:46 AM

We are both button pushers. Now when I say I do not recall, I sound Republican.
The McCain vote with style flair and audible gasps is like an old classical painting showing a moment in history like signing the declaration of independence. I'm glad John had this moment for the ages.

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Jul 17 - 09:29 AM

"Who can tell us what Donald Trump was doing forty-one years ago?"

It seems that Donal Joke, the presidential candidate who denigrated Sen. McCain's sacrifices for this country, was valiantly fighting his own war againgst venereal disease during and after the Viet Nam era.


The Daily Beast

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: CupOfTea
Date: 30 Jul 17 - 04:29 PM

McCain is a good example of what a Republican used to be: standing up for his own convictions, on their own merits, without denigrating the honor of his opponents. With so few Republicans NOT on the bandwagon for 45's insane agendas, he does shine like a white knight from time to time. Then ya take a look at some of the other votes he's done, and want to scream " NOOOO!!!"

A saving grace will be politicians who can be persuaded to vote in the best interests of constituents. McCain did this time, give him props. My own senator, Portman, has been part of some dreadful things, yet he did stand up for the Great Lakes. Gave him thanks for that well done bipartisan effort, along with some spirited condemnation of his other moves.

Finding a wedge of agreement with someone with the substance of McCain is such a good way to connect, a starting point for conversation and compromise that those with unbending agendas will never afford the opposition. Any effort toward bipartisanship is a huge step in the right direction with this administration.

Joanne in Cleveland

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Jul 17 - 06:20 PM

McCain is a good example of what a Republican used to be:

Well, mostly.

But almost all of the current Republicrud spinelesss wonders have forgotten what morality and integrity mean - or they'd be repudiating the worthless piece of shit that currently occupies the White House.

Lets not deify McCain simply becasause he's not as brain dead as the rest of the Republican assholes in the House & Senate & the various State Offices.

Subject: RE: BS: The Honorable Senator John McCain
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jul 17 - 06:25 PM

Yes the goal posts have been moved by the extreme right. They want their segregated America back.
To me they have moved the McCain 50 yard line into the end zone.
Regular order is called for and McCain merely wants a 50 yard line where it is supposed to be.
To do so we need a reform of gerrymandering and districting.
We need an end to voter suppression and destruction of voter rights
An end to ... Hell we need a New Deal II under Warren or Sanders