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Carpenter Collection etc.

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Steve Gardham 19 Sep 17 - 09:04 AM
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GUEST,Dave 19 Sep 17 - 01:41 PM
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Subject: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 09:04 AM

Advance notice:
The EFDSS website is in the process of adding many actual recordings to its website. What was 'Take 6', now 'The Full English' will soon become 'VWML Digital Library'. As it now encompasses much Scottish and American material it is dropping the 'Full English' title. Before Christmas I am assured both the Carpenter Collection and Ken Stubbs recordings will be online. For more info go to the website. Looking forward to accessing the chantey recordings and Bell Duncan's ballads. The material is all set to come online but the whole site is being tested currently for glitches before launching.

Well done to EFDSS and the Carpenter team who have been working hard on the catalogue for several years now under the auspices of the Elphinstone Institute at Aberdeen Uni and the Library of Congress.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Lighter
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 10:37 AM

Fantastic! Thanks for the heads-up, Steve!


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Snuffy
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 11:59 AM

Just the Christmas present I wanted.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: RTim
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 12:46 PM

I can't wait - because I have been, for at least two years............

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 01:29 PM

"I have been, for at least two years............"
As long as that!!!
I was first told about this collection by Bob Thomson back in the 70s - he had heard of it from Ken Goldstein
We approached the then Librarian of the Vaughan Williams Memoral Library (don't think Malcolm Taylor had landed then - maybe Theresa Thom)
She ordered it for the Library
It is a truely magnificent collection
My favourite story connected with it was that of Ben Bright - a merchant seaman recorded by Carpenter in Swansea (?)
In the late seventies, Charles Parker was crossing London Bridge when he saw an escapologist
Charlie stood talking to his assistant, who turned out to be Carpenter's singer, Ben Bright, whose story is worth a book in its own right.
Ben had sailed to California in the depression, jumped ship and joined Joe Hill's International Workers of the World - the Wobblies
He worked as a Union organiser with some of the Legendary figures, including T-Bone Slim and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn
Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger recorded Ben and, based on those recordings, Ewan wrote one of his best songs (in my opinion) 'Shellback'
They also produced a monograph based on Ben's exploits which was sold at the Singers Club
Therecordig sessions ended abruptly whan Ewan and Peg turned up at Ben's lodgings to find that Ben, then well into his seventies, had taken passage as a deckhand on a ship bound for Australia
When their daughter Kitty was born, E and P got a postcard of congratulations from Australia - Ben was then working on a coaster sailing around Australia
A truely remarkable man
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 01:41 PM

Steve,

You comment that: For more info go to the website.

Any chance of a link? Looking around the site I can't find anything recent of substance. That may, of course, be my own ineptitude.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 02:57 PM

Sorry Dave,
Not very good at links, but I'll see what I can do by way of instruction to get you to what I have seen so far.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 03:04 PM

https://www.vwml.org/vwml-projects/carpenter-folk-online

Yeeha! Never done that before. I just copied and pasted what was in the browser.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 03:07 PM

https://www.vwml.org/vwml-projects/carpenter-folk-online

Tried to Make a Link but it wouldn't play.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Dave Ruch
Date: 19 Sep 17 - 09:25 PM

This is great news. Thanks for posting, Steve.


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Tradsinger
Date: 20 Sep 17 - 06:37 AM

Note that the songs Carpenter collected in Gloucestershire have been transcribed and can be found on
http://glostrad.com/. About 45 songs including ballads, children's songs etc.

Tradsinger


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 20 Sep 17 - 06:40 AM

Thanks for the link Steve (and Tradsinger).


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Subject: The Carpenter Collection
From: RTim
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 08:59 AM

Is there any recent news regarding the digitized Carpenter Collection and when it will be available on the EFDSS Digital Archive site?

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: The Carpenter Collection
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 06:33 PM

Patience is the name of the Carpenter game. It's coming, and soon, but there are still a few matters to sort out, I understand. I think the earlier thread may have jumped the gun a bit and got you all eager to early!
Derek


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Subject: RE: Carpenter Collection etc.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 04:21 PM

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