Tech: Facebook Video & Comments

Subject: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 12:57 AM

We had a rather heated discussion of California's "Values Act," the so-called sanctuary law that prevents state and local law enforcement from assisting federal immigration enforcement. We had a clergy-led prayer session outside beforehand, and we were interrupted by a tall, angry woman wearing a red-white-and-blue dress. She insisted on praying for all the people killed by "illegal immigrants." She was accompanied by a many carrying some kind of electronic equipment.

She made herself an intimidating center of attention every moment of the meeting, holding up a "lie" sign whenever she disapproved of what Placer County residents were saying. She broadcasted the meeting from her cellphone and spoke a running commentary as she recorded, making sure to get photographs of all the people in attendance. When it was her turn to speak, she shouted out a well-practiced, angry speech - and she ignored the requirement to give her name and place of residence.

She posted the recording of her livestream of the meeting here:

https://www.facebook.com/genevieve711/videos/10215465633408400/?hc_location=ufi

You'll notice that there are facebook comments alongside the video, as well as her spoken commentary. Some of that commentary and the comments is racist, and there were some particularly anti-Semitic remarks when a rabbi spoke on behalf of immigrants.

Right now, this damaging video is available online to all the world, but we're afraid she'll take it down before we can fully study it. Is there a way for us to record the video and keep it?

Thanks.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 01:34 AM

Check with Acme for a better method but for immediate safekeeping, use your fone or another digital video recorder to shoot it playing on a computer. I filmed an hour at a time of a climate conference that way that I just HAD to have. I'd do it for you but my fone is too full and my other camera is in PA. Camera best: you can set it down for no wobbles in your shot.

~S~

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 01:53 AM

Youtube-dl may do it, watch this space!

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 03:11 AM

It's locked

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Nick
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 06:39 AM

Simple way (just tried)

If you have Real Player and downloader turned on.

Go to the link you gave and at the top of the page is the Real Player Downloader icon. Click on it and download it. if you have a problem send me message or comment and I'll download it and put it on dropbox or somewhere

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Nick
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 06:54 AM

Joe - I have a copy of it if you want it. I have a reasonably fast internet connection. if you want all the comments from the thread I can probably download all those as well if you need them

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 07:11 AM

Video converter/downloader sites come and go, and often change the way they work, but if you google for them you should find one that saves Facebook video after a couple of false starts. The comments can be harder to copy, though.

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Iains
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 07:16 AM

Joe if you copy it to your timeline you may be able to record it.


https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001625.htm

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Nick
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 08:42 AM

See your PM Joe

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 03:43 PM

Video opened using Opera, and youtube-dl is downloading the video!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Jul 18 - 04:02 PM

don't know about facebook, but organised far right have seemingly taken over youtube for propaganda
and 'antifa' monitoring/attacking/humiliating video broadcasts...

I'm watching a few UK right wing channels to stay familiar with their vocabulary and tactics..

Subject: RE: Tech: Copying Facebook Video & Comments
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Jul 21 - 10:05 AM

Joe, three years later that video is still up; there are programs you can use to record the video from FB onto your computer.

Top 11 Facebook Video Downloader Software [2021 Rankings]. I have one in my Chrome browser called KeepVid that I haven't used for a while but I chose after I read a lot of reviews several years ago. I think I also have the 4K Video Downloader, again, after reading reviews and recommendations from a friend.

Subject: RE: Tech: Facebook Video & Comments
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Jul 21 - 10:31 AM

I've moved this thread back to the top and shortened the name so I can post this where some of our non-member participants can chime in.

A couple of days ago I wasn't paying attention to what the content was when one of the very long posts about a sea shanties with a slavery topic was posted on Facebook by someone who has been studying them but is a non-American English-as-a-second-language speaker. He also posts here on Mudcat, but sometimes the performances videos appear on Facebook. The nuance of that particular song is one that is understood as racist here in the US; the language may have not have the same weight to UK scholars, especially those whose first language isn't English where idiomatic phrases can trip one up. I'm trying to be generous here in saying the interpretation outside the US may not render the words as damaging.

The trouble with that post was that it was an old song that inserted a lot of racist and derogatory language and demeanor in the Facebook milieu. I started seeing remarks about it and went back to take a look, then decided to remove that post over on Facebook.

The difference between posting historic songs on Mudcat.org and posting historic songs on Facebook.com is that Max Spiegel owns Mudcat and it's a source for music scholarship. The nasty lyrics generally stay put in the music section as a matter of record. Over on Facebook, those "community standards" are monitored by computer algorithm and humans and if you get many complaints about language over there, you as members can get your posts deleted, you can get your personal account closed down for a little while, or you can get your personal account closed for weeks at a time. (Facebook Jail.) People love to complain, and over on Facebook there are lots of tools for doing so. Groups and pages can get dinged (they have some kind of point system) if too many complaints appear.

We have that Mudcat Café Facebook page set up for announcements, and while links to images and video can easily be posted here at Mudcat, if you want to see photos or videos you have to visit another site. These days the main places people link to are personal websites, YouTube accounts, or Facebook accounts, groups, and pages.

People visit that page and try to do a quick question about a song and users oblige with answers, but they're lost on Facebook. That's why they are directed back over here to Mudcat to do their research. You're less likely to run into trouble and much more likely to find the answers already exist over here, or people who will quickly jump in to help. And then it's part of the record here.

Keeping the musical scholarship here on Mudcat is the best way to keep track of your work.