Neil Boyle / Néillidh Boyle - recording

Subject: neilidh boyle
From: The Sandman
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 12:25 PM

here is a chance to hear the moving cloud performed and composed by n boyle, credit ot peter kennedy for being able to collect and preserve the recording,his performance shows how much it varies from the way it is played today , he would be turning in his grav
https://sounds.bl.uk/World-and-traditional-music/Peter-Kennedy-Collection/025M-C0604X1236XX-0001V0

Subject: RE: Neilidh Boyle
From: Steve Jones
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 06:20 PM

To judge from his comments about the radio performance he had heard, he was already turning in his grave, pre-humously as it were, about the way other people were playing the tune. But I was very struck by the strong similarities between the version he plays on this recording and a well known tune, The New Copperplate. He spoke about forgetting tunes he composed and I have to wonder whether he was getting confused about this one! It also made me chuckle when he evoked "Beet-hoven" and Schubert as if his compositions deserved the same reverence as their works. A character, clearly.

Subject: RE: Neilidh Boyle
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 05:11 AM

The words that I am most familiar with to that tune are Tramps and Hawkers.

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: leeneia
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 12:05 PM

What is the moving cloud? The link goes to an Irish tune called ---- rua or ruagh, "The River Roe."

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 12:55 PM

if you carry on listening it goes to another slow air and then he talks about his composition the reel the moving cloud, and he then plays it

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 06:42 AM

https://thesession.org/tunes/1091

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 06:44 AM

https://youtu.be/FrFMUtYCTjE

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: GUEST,Kenny
Date: 16 Jan 19 - 07:10 AM

But Orlaith's still my favourite :
https://youtu.be/SaaUoc-lrZc

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jan 19 - 03:59 PM

Haven't had much inclination to listen to this man's music since I heard him refer to 'jungle music' and the people who play it in a fairly racist way- he was referring to 'modern music' and musicians.

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 03:42 AM

Guest , I have always found it important to put aside prejudices and just listen to the music, and judge the music , I like his playing ,however i do not find his playing of airs emotional or very sensitive, there are others who I think play airs in a way i prefer , but technically he was very good and his playing of the reel is imo good.its all subjective but getting back to ROOTS is important

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 05:42 AM

Referring to 'jungle music' as it was played in the dancehalls was pretty common for a particular generation of musicians. You cane hear Junior Crehan do the same in the recent documentary aired by TG4 recently and I have heard more than a few others use the term as well. It's unpleasant to our ears and grates on our sensibilities. All I can make of it is that it was common usage and they didn't know any better.

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: clueless don
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 08:29 AM

The link in the original post doesn't work for me - I hit the "play" button, and nothing happens.

I'm partial to the "turning-in-his-grave" versions of this exciting tune. Here's my favorite .

Don

Subject: RE: Néillidh Boyle
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Jan 19 - 04:45 PM

was Kennedy a latter day Sharp?

Subject: RE: Neil Boyle / Néillidh Boyle - recording
From: The Sandman
Date: 19 Jan 19 - 04:01 AM

Neil Boyle, Dunloe, Donegal, Northern Ireland 1953 Tape 2

Subject: RE: Neil Boyle / Néillidh Boyle - recording
From: GUEST,Kenny
Date: 19 Jan 19 - 05:04 AM

The link works OK for me.
James Kelly and Paddy O'Brien, accompanied by Daithi Sproule on guitar, recorded what is very close to the composer's original version on an LP record titled "Spring In The Air".
2 years ago the brilliant young musician Fergus McGorman had a go at the original version on flute, which didn't really work for me, but others might disagree. His CD was called "Sweeping The Cobwebs Out Of The Sky".
I get the feeling Mr. Boyle might have been happier with those 2 versions rather than others.