BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea

Subject: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 05:45 AM

After a cup of brushes and pens killed a toilet I got a TOTO toilet for my birthday.

The thing is I coated it with nano ceramic SiO2 which is an invisible glass that is slicker than non stick pans. They use it to seal and polish cars for 10 years. IT works on restoring old porceline sinks as long as they are clean upon application. It even becomes scratch proof.

Say goodbye to stainless steel sinks, porceline is back and better than ever.

It has to cure for a day and a bottle of nano ceramic costs $30 which is enough to do a whole car.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 07:28 AM

And the little Toto 2 only uses a cup of water to flush #1.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: JHW
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 08:32 AM

My kitchen sink is plastic material and the main bowl top layer has worn though here and there, stays clean. Wonder if the stuff works on plastic (and is available to £ users) Would have to coat Bowl, Small Bowl & Draining board I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 09:21 AM

These toilets are efficient but the volume of water doesn't push waste far enough to move it out of the sewer pipe for a while. Sometimes an extra flush is worthwhile just to move that stuff along.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 03:27 PM

Google nano ceramic Its safe for paint and my experiment with porcelin so far.

The Toto has 2 different flushes, backwards for #1 and forward for #2.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 04:59 PM

https://www.oralhealthgroup.com/features/nano-ceramics-an-innovative-material-for-cad-cam-restorations/

SiO2 is starting to be used in dentistry.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 05:41 PM

I'm experimenting with old scratched glasses now.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Jul 20 - 06:51 AM

Say goodbye to stainless steel sinks, porceline is back and better than ever.
ever thought what the glaze fixed at high temperatures is on ceramic sinks and toilet bowls? It is a glass. An admixture of sand (S O₂) & Alumina (Al O₂) and various other oxides to flux the glaze like Calcium to reduce the temperature well below the "melting point" of the body (clay to you).

So your S O₂ (or is it actually Alumina - Al O₂?) must have a binder. Probably has some other elemental oxides in it if the stuff is grown as nano-particles, cf ground. Is this the kind of product? - I see E-Buy & Amazin offer little bottles. Wiki - The material is so small that it has basically no flaws

Dental glue & fillers are pretty efficient, given the environ they have to be cured in (with UV!). Wiki on ceramic veneers

Are you treating those glasses on spec? 😎

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jul 20 - 12:31 PM

A sand pitted windshield can even be restored.
Only star trek had transparent aluminum.
There is a big friction difference between new porcelin and 'liquid glass' coated porcelin.
I am surprised such a glossy product still leaves matt surfaces matt.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Thompson
Date: 04 Jul 20 - 12:57 PM

How do you apply this nano ceramic SiO2? And does it wash off the porcelain, flooding horribly into the oceans, or does it say safely there?
I met an excellent Toto toilet some years ago; it was set in a corner so took up very little space in the tiny bathroom; the cistern was triangular, and had a tap and small sink on top, feeding into the cistern. When you flushed it, the tap automatically turned on and you washed your hands, and your handwashing and rinsing water flowed down into the cistern for the next flush. I thought it was brilliant.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: JHW
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 05:45 AM

Authorities have installed No Water loos (in the days there were any loos) trying to be greener but they always go back to water flush. As above waste has to travel further than leaving the chinaware. One's waste water crystallises and blocks even pipes with water flush.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 07:09 AM

cistern was triangular, and had a tap and small sink on top, feeding into the cistern.

Brilliant idea. My concern, and it would apply to rainwater too, is can the valves handle the soap (or dust wash-off from the roof)? And do you have to lean over the bowl to reach the sink?

The reason usual cisterns are popular is they are, for the most part "fit & forget". But as I am wont to say about climate change etc, "we won't like the solutions" - because we are inherently lazy (or focus on more hedonistic pursuits).

One of the current Rothschild clan had a company making and installing earth closets. With a solar powered extractor on the stack pipe. It produced usable compost. Ideal in rural Africa where it was intended. But there were rules about what was put down, and the same applies to urban sewage systems, not that people care!

Doesn't Glastonbury Festival have earth closets?

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 07:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byKcYsEyWGk

application of Si O2 for the festicious UK consumer

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Thompson
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 05:20 AM

Thanks, Donuel.

Mr Red, Toto is still making a version of the toilet with the sink above the cistern - I saw one in a Paris flat recently on a visit to France. There doesn't seem to be any problem with the piping.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Thompson
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 05:49 AM

Did you actually pressure-wash your toilet with a karcher, Donuel?

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 06:01 AM

festidious UK consumer- not fascist
btw one can not drop their phone into the TOTO toilet water. The dimensions prohibit it.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: JHW
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 03:45 PM

Aysgarth Falls UK National Park Centre had an earth closet. They replaced it by standard flush as parents voiced fear of children falling in the chute.

Subject: RE: BS: Toilets and sinks - new idea
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 04:08 PM

corner toilet with washbasin over the cistern using the handbasin is almost as tricky as I thought.