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Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: Lighter Date: 07 Mar 23 - 07:13 PM Oscar Brand. He recorded it on "Bawdy Western Songs" (1960). His tune wasn't "Villikins," however. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: Bill D Date: 07 Mar 23 - 06:03 PM Directly from the Mudcat lyrics list (I heard approximately this version 50 years ago.) Way down on the prairie where cow plop is thick, Where women are women and cowpokes cum quick; There lived pretty Charlotte, the girl we adore, The pride of the prairie, the cowpunchers' whore. Cho: It's Charlotte the harlot, The girl we adore, The pride of the prairie, The cowpunchers' whore. She's dirty, she's vulgar, she spits in the street, Why whenever you see her, she's always in heat. She'll lay fur a dollar, take less or take more, The pride of the prairie, the cowpunchers' whore. One day in the canyon, no pants on her quim, A rattlesnake saw her and flung himself in, Charlotte the harlot gave cowboys the frights, The only vagina that rattles and bites. One day on the prairie, while riding along, My seat in the saddle, the reins on my dong, Who should I meet but the girl I adore The pride of the prairie, the cowpunchers' whore. I got off my pony, I reached for her crack, The damn thing was rattling and biting me back I took out my pistol; I aimed for its head I missed the damned rattler and shot her instead. Her funeral procession was forty miles long, With a chorus of cowpunchers singing this song: "Here lies a young maiden who never kept score The pride of the prairie, the cowpunchers' whore." From The Whorehouse Bells were Ringing, Logsdon @bawdy @cowboy @death @animal filename[ CHARLTT TUNE FILE: VILDINAH CLICK TO PLAY RG |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: GUEST,Jerry Date: 07 Mar 23 - 02:59 PM Yes, that’s the one I was thinking of, and with that chorus. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: Steve Gardham Date: 06 Mar 23 - 01:40 PM Way down in Wyoming where the bullshit lies thick, I was walking along with my hand on my prick, When down from the mountains came the girl I adore, Twas Charlotte the harlot the cowpuncher's whore. This is from Hull, England, 1960s. Tune as said 'Sweet Betsy/Villikins' There might have been a chorus I had her, I had her, I had her, I-ay etc. There are probably more verses but I'd need prompting. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: John MacKenzie Date: 06 Mar 23 - 12:17 PM Charlotte the Harlot the girl we adore Charlotte the Harlot the cow puncher's whore. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: GUEST,Jerry Date: 06 Mar 23 - 10:24 AM Wasn’t there one of these bawdy ballads sung to the tune of ‘Sweet Betsy from Pike’, the last line of the chorus being “Charlotte the Harlot, the cow puncher’s whore”? |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 09:34 PM CHARLOTTE THE HARLOT LAY DYING From the S.C.I.I.A.E.S. CENSORED SONGBOOK. May 1962, Melbourne. Note: SCIIAES is the "Society for the Confinement of Immoral Impulses Amongst Engineering Students". |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 09:10 PM One of the most popular Australian bush ballads was From Ron Edwards Australian Bawdy Ballads 1973. He quotes the three versions from Snatches and Lays. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 08:21 PM The Dying Harlot From the Ed Cray collection: https://archive.org/details/ed-cray-collection-aka-erotic-muses-iii/page/n487/mode/2up?q=%22dying+harlot%22&view=theater |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 07:53 PM A recording of Les Cleveland singing the song can be found on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_80pBlIKcc
He says this was sung during in the New Zealand and Australian Armies during WWII and that the tune is a variant of "The Tarpaulin Jacket" |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 07:46 PM Les Cleveland in his 1959 book The Songs We Sang has a list of titles of unpublishable songs sung during WWII. He lists the song "A Drunken Old Harlot Lay Dying." |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:54 PM Charlotte the Harlot Lay Dying (The Dying Harlot) Retrieved from here: https://www.fresnostate.edu/folklore/ballads/RuSoChHD.html |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:50 PM The song is marked as Roud #10130. Charlottle the Harlot Lay Dying (The Dying Harlot) is mistakenly mixed with "Life Presents a Dismal Picture". https://www.vwml.org/roudnumber/10130 "Charlotte the Harlot Lay Dying ". Green, Rugby Songs (1967). p 185 |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:31 PM Subject: ADD Version: Charlotte the Harlot Retrieved from https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=2000807 In a later post, auussiebloke reports that the tune used is The Dying Stockman. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:15 PM Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Charlotte the Harlot Retrieved from here: https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=4034913 |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:12 PM Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Charlotte the Harlot https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=3070216 |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:09 PM Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Charlotte the Harlot Retrieved from https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=2471389 |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 04:05 PM Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Charlotte the Harlot Retrieved from https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=1563460. In a later post Abby Sale confirms that the tune is "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean". |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 03:56 PM Subject: RE: Charlotte the Harlot Retrieved from https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=1374996 So we are up to 3 tunes: Eton Boating Song, My Bonnie, and Botany Bay. |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 03:52 PM Subject: RE: Charlotte the Harlot Retrieved from here: https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=1374990 |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 03:48 PM I'm going to place over some the texts from the Charlotte the Harlot thread. Subject: RE: Charlotte the Harlot A link to the post here: https://mudcat.org/detail_pf.cfm?messages__Message_ID=216465 |
Subject: RE: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 03:41 PM THE DYING HARLOT (Three versions) Retrieved from http://mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=6209 The tune listed is "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean" and it was put into the Digital Tradition song database by "PW". Does anyone know who "PW" is? Can we ask where the versions where learned / heard ? I have never heard a recording of this song to the tune of "My Bonnie". |
Subject: Origins: The Dying Harlot (Charlotte the Harlot) From: and e Date: 03 Mar 23 - 03:33 PM CHARLOTTE THE HARLOT LAY DYING Recorded 7 May 2004, listen to the original recording here. The tune is the Eton Boating Song. The tune is also use for the bawdy songs "The Sexual Life of the Camel" and "We're All Queer's Together". Tune variants, references, and variant texts to follow. |
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