BS: The Coronation

Subject: BS: The Coronation
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 May 23 - 01:03 PM

There doesn't seem to be anything on here about The Coronation. To be honest, that's quite a good thing, because I'm already bored stiff about this bloomin' event. We definitely aren't going to watch it on TV, and the idea of pledging allegiance to The King during the service made me giggle. Have 'they' secretly put cameras in all our living rooms? We'll probably go out somewhere, but will all the supermarkets etc be closed on Saturday? Hope not!
Anyone else feeling grumpy about The Coronation, or am I the only one?

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 May 23 - 01:15 PM

Well we're celebrating it at our Memory Café tomorrow! I'm going with the flow and zippin' me lip, with the proviso that I will not singing the Anthem nor waving a plastic flag (actually, I picked one up in Poundland this afternoon and waved it at Mrs Steve. She was less than impressed...) I hasten to add that I didn't buy it. I've suggested to Mrs Steve that we avoid the whole shenanigans by having three duvet days. She was even less impressed...

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 04 May 23 - 02:31 PM

There doesn't seem to be anything on here about The Coronation

There was a thread on the coronation but all the posts were moved to the "BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 2" thread.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 May 23 - 04:39 PM

Maybe we're all too busy going to food banks.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 May 23 - 06:00 PM

'tis underwhelming, here, too. The archbishop's comment about standing in one's living room chanting, hand to heart, has led to risible comments & a journalist mentioned the bloke to be crowned has said it wasn't his idea.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 04 May 23 - 06:04 PM

What coronation? Many Australians don’t know when it’s on and few seem inclined to recite the oath

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: JennieG
Date: 05 May 23 - 12:51 AM

I'm interested to see the clothes and the trinkets.....they have some nice trinkets. The whole religious pageantry doesn't do much for me, though, not being of a religious bent.

I have read that the new queenie does not have pierced ears. This means that most of the earrings in the royal jewellery vaults cannot be worn by her, so I would like to offer my serves as Chief Pierced Earring Wearer.

Especially of the green ones. Emeralds are my birth stone, and I am quite fond of green.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 May 23 - 03:57 AM

I'm looking forward to swearing at the King.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 May 23 - 07:38 AM

I take it that everyone has heard our new national anthem by now, courtesy of Celtic football fans. Just google "You can shove your coronation up your a...". It's a beautiful rendition!

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 May 23 - 07:53 AM

Here ya go Dave…

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Charmion
Date: 05 May 23 - 01:40 PM

It’s a non-event to most Canadians, too.

Today’s locker-room gathering at the YMCA concluded that only a fool would watch it live, unless she found herself wide awake and unable to go back to sleep at zero dark thirty.

If there are souvenir mugs, I have yet to see one. Plastic flags ditto. As for swearing an oath at the telly — HAHAHAHAHA!

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 May 23 - 05:26 PM

I should like to ask a practical question. All these thousands of people camping out in tents on the Mall. So what if you need a wee, esp. if you are of the female persuasion? And what about if you need to take a shit? Huh? How does it work?

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 05 May 23 - 05:34 PM

Perhaps some of the £100 million is being spent on Portaloos.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 May 23 - 05:34 PM

Could it be that I, as an anti-royalist Republican sort of chap, am paying with my taxpayer's money for the provision of multiple portaloos to provide for the needs of empty-headed, pro-royal sycophants?   I mean, where's the outrage! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 05 May 23 - 06:45 PM

Charmion and I swore the oath to our late sovereign to "be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors according to law. So help me God" in the early 1970s. It had no expiry date and covered Charles, too, so I am not going to chew my cabbage twice.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 May 23 - 07:03 PM

I'll happily be corrected by bible scholars l, but I seem to recall the good Lord in Matthew 5:34 saying that we should not swear oaths, but instead let our speech be yea yea, nay nay...

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 May 23 - 12:14 AM

Being an hour earlier than Charmion's "zero dark thirty" there is no way a live viewing of this is going to happen. Or even very much viewing of an after-the-fact YouTube video, since I have to work on the garden on Saturday and that seems a good use of the time (and environmentally speaking, a better outcome). Considering all of the fuss involved, Charles would have been smart to forego most of this and spend Saturday in his garden. Whichever one he chooses.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 04:09 AM

Or shooting grice.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 May 23 - 04:18 AM

Best coverage is from Private Eye

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 06:00 AM

I see they've watered down the bit about swearing homage or whatever it was. It's 10.58 and I'm off to Morrisons to buy a cabbage and some carrots. It'll be quiet in there!

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 May 23 - 06:18 AM

I quite like all the pomp and ceremony. It's the royal bit that is annoying. Same as religion. Love the rites. Shame about the god bit :-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 23 - 07:01 AM

The crowd mirrors the weather. Cool and damp.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Captain Swing
Date: 06 May 23 - 07:28 AM

"Perhaps some of the £100 million is being spent on Portaloos."

Well if it is, let's hope that after the whole silly event, they will be redistributed around the City for the use of those who have to sleep on the streets the full year round.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 May 23 - 07:56 AM

Good idea Captain!

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 06 May 23 - 08:22 AM

It's a testimony to the world we live in that a prince who was having an affair all the time he was married is made king. Also that his mistress, who he later married, is made queen. I have no respect for either of them. Diana would have made an amazing queen but sadly her life was ended... please note, I did not say her life ended....I said it was ended!! Charles should have abdicated and William 5th should rule!.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 08:41 AM

Alternatively, they should all just bugger off. I'll be generous and let them keep Frogmore Cottage. If there isn't enough room, they could always just throw up a few sheds in the garden.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 08:46 AM

By the way, Morrisons was bloody heaving and the sun has been beaming warmly down on Bude since 11!

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 May 23 - 09:57 AM

I got up at 5 am to watch. So pageantry, such rite, wow.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 23 - 09:59 AM

I second that CAPTAIN. Inevitable genius.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 May 23 - 10:00 AM

I didn't watch, but I have read that
the Archbishop had a little trouble
getting the crown to fit the king's head,
in front of everybody.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 May 23 - 11:10 AM

The New York Times, in honor of King Charles,
published an article today with a lavish description
of the guesthouse which he owns
near the Carpathian Mountains of Transylvania.

Oh! the rich possibilities for satire in that fact . . .

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 May 23 - 11:14 AM

After getting up at my normal time I opened the phone app for the New York Times, where they ran a set of stills and short videos encapsulating the whole event. That's all I need to know how it happened.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 May 23 - 12:40 PM

It was pretty good apart from all the king and god crap :-D

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 May 23 - 02:20 PM

In Loscoe Debyshire they celebrated by having a 'pin the ears on King Charles' competition.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 May 23 - 03:32 PM

Since I am, by ancestry, in line for the Throne, I could not in good conscience watch it. Sure, it’s 2,067 who must die or abdicate first, but still…..

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 May 23 - 03:52 PM

Many of our neighbours in this village had decorated their houses with loads of flags, some of which were upside down (a distress signal!). It was rather nice to hear the church bells peal out (our church was built in the 14th Century). One of my friends has been learning bell-ringing with a group run by the vicar.
I haven't seen even one minute of the Coronation on TV. We spent the day getting our groceries in and having tea at the big supermarkets. Glad I'm not the only one on here with no interest in the event.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 May 23 - 03:56 PM

I will support Charles III as king, BUT!
He is making promises in church. I remember the promises (oaths) he made during his (first) wedding ceremony.
I have doubts about his willingness to keep the promises he makes.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 04:43 PM

I was out shopping so I missed it (on purpose). When I got home I read a piece about his thirteen mansions and palaces, then I read another piece about the murky ways in which their finances are hidden from the public gaze, ostensibly because the tax exemptions on their incomes, lavish gifts and inheritances they enjoy are ones that no-one else can benefit from. I was reminded that we also give them £86 million of our money every year. Then I read a piece from a few weeks ago in which this multi-billionaire was suggesting that we should all do a days unpaid volunteering for charity. And this earnest environmentalist, who owns 50,000 acres of Scottish land that's been devastated so that the privileged few can shoot at grouse, was wearing ermine today, obtained from killed stoats. And who knows how many Canadian bears were slaughtered in order to produce those hundreds of bearskin hats on parade. So I'm glad I missed it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 04:53 PM

I watched Liverpool beating Brentford this afternoon (on Now TV I hasten to add!). The Premier League had asked clubs to play God Save the King at the start of matches. Well it was played at Anfield but you couldn't hear a single bit of it as the fans booed and chanted "Liverpool, Liverpool" all the way through, followed by a mighty rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone. Liverpool, a great city shat on from on high by Thatcher, then demonised by the right-wing (royalist) press as they fought for thirty years for justice after Hillsborough. Had I been in that crowd I would have booed and chanted as loud as anybody. Maybe it takes a football crowd to see through all the dismal bullshit we've been subjected to for the last week. Well all power to football crowds say I!

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 04:55 PM

And yes I know who Now TV belongs to, thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Stanron
Date: 06 May 23 - 05:54 PM

For US members I'd like to point out that Steve Shaw's comments represent the views of less than 10% of the UK. Possibly less than 1%. He states them a lot and reacts strongly when contradicted but his position is nowhere near a consensus. The fact that most voices on this forum will support him should not lead you to think he speaks for most UK people.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Charmion
Date: 06 May 23 - 06:18 PM

Don’t worry, Stanron; on this side of the Herring Pond we’re just as abnormal as Steve is — and you. Nary a one of us can speak for the masses.

But we are quite capable of observing a widespread lack of fuss and feathers.

The English-language CBC may be wall-to-wall Westminster Abbey, but one just gets on with one’s day.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 06 May 23 - 06:33 PM

Just come back from a superb firework display on Cleethorpes seafront. Before anybody lectures me on the waste of money, damage to the environment, the rights and wrongs of the monarchy vs a republic etc., let me say that I don't care. I just like fireworks. At least celebrating a coronation is a better reason than celebrating the execution of a Catholic or the calendar changing from December to January.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 06:36 PM

Well, old chap, my views are what they are and, as an independent-minded sort of chap, I tend not to take too much notice of facts and figures chucked at me about what other people think (I do listen carefully to individual arguments, a different thing altogether). However, I think you know all too well that your ten per cent/one percent claims are complete rubbish. I honestly can't be arsed to research numbers simply because you came out with that vacuous nonsense, but what I do know is that the vast majority of young people have little time for the royals and that you'd struggle to show that the royals have anything like an enthusiastic majority of followers in this country. I don't claim a consensus and never have, nor do I claim to speak for Brits on the whole. Of course, you are completely at liberty to challenge anything I've said about the royals' palaces, wealth or tax avoidance. Be aware that I tend to do my homework before posting, even though I rely very little on links.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 07:02 PM

"At least celebrating a coronation is a better reason than celebrating the execution of a Catholic or the calendar changing from December to January.


I think there's a quasi-philosophical point here, Doug. We're not really talking about reasons to celebrate, we're talking more about excuses to celebrate. Not necessarily to celebrate specific events (such as coronations, to pluck a random example from the air), but, in consideration of the fact that this life is nought but a vale of tears, to celebrate even the tiniest things that strike us as positives. We all need more excuses and more celebrations. If the coronation lights yer fire, go for it. Mrs Steve and I started the evening with a gin and tonic. We couldn't think what we might drink to, and I certainly wasn't going to be raising a glass to Prince Flappyears or his erstwhile mistress, but then we remembered that G&T was the Queen Mother's favourite lunchtime tipple...and afternoon tea tipple...and pre-prandial evening tipple...and bedtime tipple...

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 07:44 PM

The Conservative party’s deputy chair, Lee Anderson, has said that anti-monarchist campaigners should emigrate rather than use their right to free speech to protest against the coronation of Charles III...

...He tweeted: “Not My King? If you do not wish to live in a country that has a monarchy the solution is not to turn up with your silly boards. The solution is to emigrate.”

Deputy chair of your party, Stanron. You ok with that? Will you pay my fare?

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 06 May 23 - 07:58 PM

Little interest here in Scotland as far as I can gather. They put up a huge screen in Princes St Gardens in front of the Ross Bandstand for people to watch it there: photos show a wee smattering of audience, probably mainly tourists. Haven’t heard of any street parties at all, and that’s not because I have no mates! I have plenty, but many of them are of the Republican persuasion.
In the meantime, 2 other events in Edinburgh attracted more followers: the “Not my King” protesters up on Carlton Hill, and the annual May Day March down the Royal Mile, the date of which would have been decided long before the Coronation date.
And over in Glasgow, a big Independence March was well supported.

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 06 May 23 - 08:03 PM

And a couple of Coronation howlers:
According to “Edinburgh Live” - an online news channel apparently staffed by numerous “trainee reporters” - King Charles was “coronated”.
And according to BBC subtitles, Sir John Eliot Gardiner is head of the rock music department. ( I think they meant Baroque?)

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 May 23 - 08:29 PM

"Coronated," eh? Heheh. I think I'll hang on to that one. Reminded me of something I read a while ago about a famous American (can't remember who) who'd died and who'd been "funeralised..." :-)

Subject: RE: BS: The Coronation
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 May 23 - 08:43 PM

It was an interesting day to choose to crown a new king; the same day as the Kentucky Derby (more horses' asses, for one) which is the first race in the Triple Crown (three successive races that if one horse wins all three, it's a BIG DEAL.)