Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Feb 24 - 05:02 PM

With the discovery that the FBI informant on the Bidens is a Russian agent, Chinese agents are also now exposed in the Trump election campaign.

The CIA has a saying "if you keep poisonous snakes in your yard and you disturb them, don't expect them to only bite your neighbors".

Jim Jorden and others have been bit.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Feb 24 - 08:44 PM

So this happened this afternoon:

Judge denies Trump's request to delay enforcement of $355M fraud case penalties
Trump's lawyers had requested a 30-day delay in the enforcement of penalties.

The judge in former President Donald Trump's civil fraud case has rejected a request from the defense to delay the enforcement of the penalties in the case.

The defendants had asked Judge Arthur Engoron to delay the enforcement of the penalties by 30 days to allow for an "orderly post-judgment process."

"You have failed to explain, much less justify, any basis for a stay," Engoron wrote in an email posted Thursday to the court docket. "I am confident that the Appellate Division will protect your appellate rights.

The rest at the link.

And this from PBS: Trump’s properties could be seized if $454 million civil fraud debt not paid, warns NY AG James

Donald Trump could be at risk of losing some of his prized properties if he can’t pay his staggering New York civil fraud penalty. With interest, he owes the state nearly $454 million — and the amount is going up $87,502 each day until he pays.

New York Attorney General Letitia James told ABC News on Tuesday that she will seek to seize some of the former president’s assets if he’s unable to cover the bill from Judge Arthur Engoron’s Feb. 16 ruling.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Feb 24 - 04:40 PM

The ongoing danger is what the US must deal with after this Trump horserace is surely over. The Christian fascist nationalists will have many representatives in the government and courts for years to come.

Alabama courts are calling zygotes embryos or children now. The judge quotes God but not statutes.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 22 Feb 24 - 02:07 PM

Thanks for that article, SRS.

Reading that makes me aware and very, very thankful for the standard of journalism on the Oz ABC radio and TV network. I think they fit that standard extremely well.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Feb 24 - 01:49 PM

The LA Times has a paywall you hit pretty quickly, but I'll leave the share crap in the URL and it might open.

Opinion: How not to cover Donald Trump’s bizarre 2024 campaign for president

From October 7, 2023.
It starts:

The press should borrow a lyric from “The Sound of Music” and ask itself: “How do you solve a problem like Donald?” Or, put another way, how should journalists cover Trump’s unprecedented campaign for president while under indictment for trying to overturn an election and more?

The question concerns not just Trump but also politics and campaigns more broadly in an age of fragmented media and polarized politics. The answer requires recognizing journalists’ altered role and fulfilling it with more care, preparation and diligence.

Many confronting the challenge of covering Trump conclude that, as a recent column in the Arizona Republic put it, “It’s time to stop giving Trump airtime.” The larger point is that the media shouldn’t give exposure to people they know are going to make provably false assertions.

The problem with the “Don’t amplify liars” argument is twofold. First, the press is no longer a gatekeeper of what people know; it’s more often an annotator of what they’ve already heard elsewhere. So not covering Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene or others in politics who say patently false things will not silence them. It will just leave them less examined.

Second, it’s a dereliction of the press’ duty to ignore powerful dissemblers and liars in public life. We have an obligation to explain what’s false and offer clear and persuasive evidence of the truth. We have to help the public understand.

The suggestion here is to develop a questioning strategy as an attorney would. "Attorneys identify where they want to end up and work backward, developing a series of questions that will guide a dishonest witness to a place where their evasions are exposed. Journalists need to plan their interviews in the same way but too often don’t."

It describes a Trump interview with Jonathan Swan that didn't go the way Trump wanted because the journalist was prepared to refute the fake stuff Trump spouted. And concludes, regarding the Meet The Press interview used to start the article, "When journalists lack that level of preparation, they slide into a trap Welker fell into. She ended up in a debate with Trump, repeatedly insisting “That’s not true” but having nothing in hand to prove it."

It gives a lot of examples of places journalists should do their research and fact-checking, and spend less time covering rallies (I think that is finally beginning to be the case for Trump rallies, fewer national journalists there, at any rate.)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Feb 24 - 12:20 PM

Supreme Court allows sanctions against Trump-allied lawyers over 2020 election lawsuit
The justices leave in place an appeals court ruling that partly upheld sanctions arising from a lawsuit claiming that presidential election results in Michigan were rigged.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected appeals brought by Trump-allied lawyers who faced legal sanctions for baselessly alleging in court that the 2020 election in Michigan was fraudulently won by President Joe Biden.

By rejecting the appeals, the court left in place a June 2023 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that partially upheld the sanctions. . . .The lawyers were ordered to pay legal fees, undertake new legal training and were referred to their respective state bar associations for any disciplinary procedures.

These attorneys are going to be bankrupt long before Trump is.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Feb 24 - 07:49 PM

I'm thinking the LIV golf association might buy some Trump courses cheap. After all, Trump needs a quarter billion for his legal charges since he only has 300 mil in cash.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Feb 24 - 12:47 PM

From RawStory

Trump has already been 'quietly' selling off properties before court losses: NYT reporter

"He sold the operating lease to a golf course he had in New York," she elaborated. "He is also been quietly selling condominiums around New York and buildings he owned. He sold a house he owned in L.A. He has been, I don't know, stockpiling the cash he has been selling down, we don't know how much cash he has on hand. He said last year, close to 400 million."

The gold-tone sneakers are his latest desperate attempt to raise cash. I guess he isn't aware of the millions-worth of Kanye West sneakers that Adidas is trying to unload since they cut ties. There may be a glut in the name-brand sneakers world.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Feb 24 - 12:42 PM

The courts are having their moment but Congress is still home of the wettest whistles in Washington.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 12:32 PM

Jack Smith met with Cannon for several hours last week; perhaps she is beginning to see that the horse she is backing is going down anyway so she might as well help lead him to that water. (Sorry about those mangled metaphors.)

The stories people were telling and illustrating with graphics yesterday were remarkable. Mar A Lago is a prime example - the Florida county estimates it is worth between $18 and $27m, but Trump was reporting 10 times those amounts. The property in Westchester County, NY, was valued by Trump as if the land had been subdivided and seven mansions already built and turnkey ready. No taking into account the process of getting permission to subdivide or the cost of building all of those dwellings.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 11:04 AM

Surprise ! Judge Cannon has denied the motions to delay the Mara Lago files case.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Feb 24 - 08:23 AM

If Trump really needs cash there are billionaires here and in Saudi Arabia that want millions of dollars worth of reasons for Trump to give them a good deal - if he is ever President again.

Nobody is asking me but I think Trump is an historic bad bet.
Even Kushner got 2 billion from the Middle East. Not bad for a Real Estate panhandler.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 09:29 PM

I was being facetious. Compared to me and what's in MY pocket, his multi-million penalties are only pocket change for him. LOL

And I realised after I had posted that Fani Willis is an Attorney-General and not a judge, but I feel better knowing that she was a judge before because I recall her being referred to as a judge. (Maybe I'm not losing quite so many marbles as I think I am.)

A more analytical article in (Oz) ABC News:

Donald Trump faces countless court cases. But this $US355 million fraud ruling could hurt the most


It's a long article, but I think it is worth reading. The section headings are:

What did the court decide?
Remind me – what's this case about?
What is a 'scorched earth defence' and why did it backfire?
How has Trump reacted?
What does this mean for Trump's real estate empire?
What other cases are looming over Trump?

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 07:41 PM

Trump can't even find a bond for the 5 million he owes Jean.
btw Helen, Fani is merely a prosecutor now but was formerly a judge.

Hey Donald Jr and Eric got 4 million dollar fines on top of the cash dad owes.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 06:40 PM

Listening to MSNBC this evening it sounds like it isn't pocket change - Trump has been hemorrhaging cash because he takes cash from profitable businesses and puts it into those that aren't. And from the high of being on TV on the apprentice program to running for office, he lost the cash that used to come in from the Trump branding. He has apparently been quietly selling off properties.

Good.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 05:32 PM

Donald Trump must pay $US355 million in penalties, barred from NY business for three years, judge rules

"In short: Donald Trump will have to pay $US354.9 million in penalties for fraudulently overstating his net worth by as much as US$3.6 billion a year over a decade to get bankers to give him better loan terms.

"Mr Trump and his adult sons, Don Jr and Eric, were defendants in the case - the younger Trumps were each ordered by the judge to pay $US4 million

"What's next? Mr Trump's lawyer Alina Habba said in a statement that the ruling was a "manifest injustice" and said she plans to appeal the ruling."

...

"Justice Engoron cancelled his prior ruling from September ordering the "dissolution" of companies that control pillars of Mr Trump's real estate empire, saying on Friday that this was no longer necessary because he is appointing an independent monitor and compliance director to oversee Mr Trump's businesses.

"In the ruling, Justice Engoron wrote that Mr Trump and the other defendants in the case 'are incapable of admitting the error of their ways'.

"'Their complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological,' Justice Engoron wrote.

"'Instead, they adopt a 'see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' posture that the evidence belies.'"

"It sounds even more impressive in Aussie dollars, $AU543 million.
...


I'm guessing it's just pocket money for him, but not being able to operate in New York for three years will make his blood boil, I bet.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 04:34 PM

Someone else can link to a story, but
the judge pronounced Trump guilty
and ordered him to pay a whopper of a fine
and forbade him to transact in the real estate business for three years
and I forget what all else.

The media are jumping all over it.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 02:50 PM

Never underestimate the power of a woman. Yay to Judge Fani Willis!!

My personal opinion is that Trump underestimates the power of women in every aspect of his life, and that he will never hesitate to dish the dirt on any woman who tries to prevent him from getting what he wants.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 09:08 AM

Willis acquitted herself well yesterday - the Trump folks would ask a leading and suggestive question then say "yes or no" and she refused to give them what they wanted. Telling them they asked the question wrong and giving them no ammunition, instead dumping their gunpowder into the water to neutralize it.

Today we should learn about the civil fraud amount from that trial.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 08:37 AM

Tim Scott wants to be Trump's VP which would make Ebony and Ivory vs. Ivory and Rosewood.

FBI informant found to fake documents and testimony of Hunter Biden's Ukraine business. Who needs deep fakes when old-fashioned paid purgery still works? Who would hire such an informant?

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 07:48 AM

How courageous is Trump? Suppose he faces an imminent jailable offense for a felony, will he become a flight risk?
Will he be as brave
as Navalny and stay?
Will there be a day
when his passport is taken away?

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 06:49 AM

Fanni Willis took the stand without being called and defiantly plopped in the chair. She was angry. Trump lawyers did not uncover any evidence of kick backs and were stymied to the point they could only harp over the same questions until the judge got fed up and told them to sit down.

Apparently, the brief affair with a fellow attorney after Trump's indictment did not end well. What did not come out was that Fanni had to live in a safe house at that time because of the Trump inspired death threats and could not live in her home.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...Trump lawyers did not see a strong woman coming after them. The scarlet letter they tried to make her wear got ground up under her shoe.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 24 - 08:21 AM

Like Biden, I have always gotten someone's name wrong or at minimum misspelled names. With theoretical physics, I easily get lost somewhere between observable particles and the fields that are responsible for their partial existence. Some things befuddle me but I can usually ride the comprehension train for most things. I don't feel too old to use memory correctly. Biden has wisdom despite being a lifelong gaff machine, politically speaking.

In comparison, Trump is certifiable depending upon the physicians.

The glaring fact that in only four years! Trump increased the national debt by well over 8 trillion dollars is reason enough to reject him.
Clinton added 1.4 trillion in 8 years. Bush added over 8 Trillion as well as Obama over 8 years. Biden has added 1.2 Trillion so far.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 02:13 PM

There are plenty of people who attest to Biden's sound thinking and abilities, but Trump will keep hammering away just because he can.

Today it seems one of his acolytes is trying to alarm the American public by hinting that something is happening that Biden should declassify. Top Republican warns of 'serious national security threat,' rankling White House
The president's adviser plans to brief congressional leaders.

Considering that earlier in the week Jake Sullivan set up a meeting with the top House and Senate ("gang of eight") security folks, it sounds like the GOP guy Mike Turner is telegraphing to Trump. Since Trump is given absolutely no security briefings because of his unreliability, Turner is handing Trump a complaint point - something along the lines of "they should share this stuff with the former president" or "if I was in the White House now I'd have fixed this and told you all about it already." Along those lines. If Turner told Trump without permission, he'd be in deep shit and he knows that Trump can't keep a secret, so if he heard something top secret, he's share it immediately on his Truth Social platform.

Yeah, Willis shot herself in the foot, even it if doesn't have any impact on the case. There's a reason they call it "stupid in love."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 06:51 AM

Fanni has until Valentine's day to appoint a replacement prosecutor to avoid a potential dismissal of her case for possibly having sex with the highest paid lawyer on her staff. That's a real Valentine surprise.

Yeah I know the facts sound like political comic relief.
Just like the two elderly candidates for President are engaged in a battle to the death via high blood pressure strategy. To counter the stress from the indictments; Trump allies hit Biden with not remembering the date and hour of his son's death. Whew Joe's blood pressure spiked that day.

The last time these Methusala candidates faced each other they set the record for the oldest candidates on record to run. This time they are locked in a real death clock battle for survival. Fandual might be the only winner in this septuagenarian dual to the final curtain.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Feb 24 - 11:09 AM

Joe, one red state at a time women and their partners are stepping up, and not just Democratic women. They want access to human rights - reproductive freedom. That will be one predictably reliable way to get people to the polls.

The congressional election today on Long Island (after Santos was forced out) is as much a referendum about the GOP as it is the race itself. Trump is currently trying to force the woman heading the RNC out and get his daughter-in-law installed; perhaps the current head isn't paying as many of his legal bills as he wants. The commentators this morning were saying that if the RNC was really at work for the party they'd be looking for other GOP candidates who can stand up to Trump.

Some of our speculative chatter is keeping the thread in view until the next big event. There will be a hearing this week about Fani Willis and her romantic relationship (she should have known better than to think she could have a private life at this point in time!) because Trump hopes if she is removed the court will put a more favorable prosecutor in who will either 1. drop the whole thing or 2. delay delay delay. If on the other hand Fani steps down she can appoint someone from her office to take care of things. Or she can hope to get a fair hearing and stay on for the job.

Trump doesn't care how he wins, and if he can make someone else look bad in the process, the happier he is. I know New Yorkers are still shaking their heads that the country elected this buffoon and now everyone has to deal with and watch his BS.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 07:40 PM

Stilly reminded me of my 'poor unfortunate soul' Trump parody song.

Donnie's court schedule this week is a real grab-bag.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 06:04 PM

I'm halfway through the last episode of an Oz series about three of our conservative Prime Ministers who were ousted from their roles: two by political backstabbing in their own party, but the third, Scott Morrison aka ScoMo, by losing the last election. One of ScoMo's key issues was that he undervalued the concerns and issues of women voters and also women who were part of his government. Women's votes were crucial in his party's election loss.

So I second your statement encouraging Democrat supporters to vote but I am adding an encouragement for all women to vote as well, because Trump's attitude to women and women's issues could be crucial in the outcome of the election, IMHO.

Also, I am picking up from a lot of commentary on TV shows here that a lot of Republicans are playing their cards close to their chests, awaiting the outcomes of those trials before they say anything too negative about Trump for fear of getting his supporters offside. If Trump has significant losses in the trials, the game result may be a whole lot different.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 05:27 PM

But back to Trump: CAN'T SOMEBODY CONVICT THAT SUCKER?

But I suppose a conviction will drive the MAGA folks to vote Trump in, so he can pardon himself. Hey, you lazy Democrats, get out and VOTE!!

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 02:46 PM

Little Mermaid is great. We did the animated one nearly every weekend when our daughters were little and 30+ years later we watched the live action one a few weeks back. Trump is definitely Ursula. Promises all sorts and then screws you!

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 01:39 PM

True confession: I don't know which rock I've been hiding under but I've never seen The Little Mermaid. LOL

On our ABC (Oz) TV I probably saw a snippet of a skit with Alec Baldwin doing an impression of Trump and Melissa McCarthy as Sean Spicer and conflated that. I just had a memory of MM's face made up as a man and that it was very funny.

An interesting aside: in the Washington Post article about "some interesting fallout" I tried to follow the link (but was blocked due to not being a subscriber) about Trump using the pseudonym "John Barron" because that is the name of one of the presenters on the Planet America show that I mentioned on 07 Feb 24 - 11:03 PM. I can guarantee that Trump would not like our John Barron talking on his behalf to the media!!

And also, on Planet America they sometimes use a very clever voice actor to read out some of Trump's messages that he has posted on social media platforms.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 10:47 AM

You've conflated voice work, Helen. Melissa McCarthy played Ursula in the new live action version of The Little Mermaid. I haven't seen that, but I saw and heard the earlier one when my children were small. McCarthy did a stunning impersonation of Sean Spicer several times for Saturday Night Live

Leslie Jones did a great skit about wanting to play him (in which another woman also dresses as Trump, but Leslie gets the last laugh, so to speak).

McCarthy's impersonation of Spicer had some interesting fallout.

I've seen Alec Baldwin return many times to play Trump, but in general it's another actor who portrays him these days. I never remember to watch the show but I see clips later in the week after it plays.

This week should offer ample opportunity to generate more material. He can't shut up when people criticise him or cases go against him.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 12 Feb 24 - 12:13 AM

Ah, don't get me started on bullying bosses and toxic work cultures! Sorry for the thread creep. :-(

Did Melissa McCarthy do an impression of Trump at some stage? I seem to remember that.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 10:52 PM

The horrible boss I worked for (and I retired before they could fire me) supported the same political party I do, but I have to wonder at the anomale; she had no interest in fair play or civil rights. She was too busy trying to run off all of the older employees to capture those wages for other uses. A real Trumpian acolyte (she moved to a new university; perhaps she has now moved to the other party).

Donald Duck would be amusing for Trump's voice. But what about a real villain, someone like Pat Carroll who played Ursula the Sea Witch. It would drive him nuts that the voice was so clear and that it was a woman. :)

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 10:35 PM

My sympathies, Helen: I suffered from the same work problem. I've just realised that's part of why I tend to walk out of the room when Turnip is on the news.

Methinks the news programmes should do with Turnip what they used to have to do in the UK when broadcasting terrorists' voices was banned: have his words voiced by an actor. I nominate Donald Duck.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 07:28 PM

Regarding the Teflon Don handle, someone once told me that the bullying manager I had worked with until he lost me my job was "as slippery as duck $hit" which I understood even better a few years later when I walked through a field full of the stuff. LOL

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 05:47 PM

It is a baseball term, an idiomatic phrase that we don't even think about. It means they heard one case this week and they get another whack at him next week with a different case. Another one used a lot is "Batting 1000," which would be a perfect record, hitting every ball perfectly every time.

Trump thought he was batting 1000 in the past court cases he's had when he could get away with the criminal behavior (in civil courts to do with housing laws and zoning laws and with bankruptcy and such) - the reason he was called "Teflon Don." Nothing touched him, until now.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 04:47 PM

Trump is simply batty.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: gillymor
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 03:51 PM

If you're the mighty Casey you're "at the bat".

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 03:21 PM

Thanks Lighter - makes sense.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 03:06 PM

The noun "at-bat" has been baseball lingo for as long as I can remember. The number of a player's "at-bats" is a basic stat. I mean "statistic."

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 01:57 PM

You’re probably right MaJoC, although I’ve never heard the term before. In the case of cricket, it would surely be “At the crease”.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 01:45 PM

I suspect it's a baseball term, though I of course thought of cricket first.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 11:21 AM

‘At bat’? Say what??

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 10:23 AM

The Supreme Court has another at bat coming up soon, to do with the Chutkin trial. He was given until Monday to take that decision before the court; pundits have remarked that the Appellate decision was so tightly and well-constructed that the Supremes may say they're good with it and let it stand.

One can only hope. It would get that trial underway a lot faster.

Too bad Merrick Garland was so busy looking impartial that he didn't get the prosecution going on the Trump cases until after the House of Representatives was at bat.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 09:25 AM

Billy Graham II Jr. says Trump did not create an insurrection, God chose him to create a resurrection.
The Republicans in Congress all agree to avoid prison time.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 24 - 07:02 AM

Here is the decree.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 24 - 06:43 AM

On top of a Republican decree that the Trump insurrection did not happen we now have the Trump brigade.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 24 - 06:12 AM

Results of a chaotic Republican primary are no more foretelling than the holy apparitions of Trump in the skies of Nevada which by the way had two FUBAR competing Trump primaries. Some states have a Republican State Committee that is bankrupt. Remember only Republicans vote in a primary and many of them are motivated by paid attendance, fear, or conspiracy lies.

Eventually, a Republican party is inconsequential to Trump cultism.
For Trumpers the new boss is the exact same guy as the old boss.
The problem is that it is the same scenario for Democrats with Biden.

Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 24 - 04:36 AM

The arguments of Colorado before the Supreme Court were weak and did not highlight the Trump insurrection. I can not fault the Court if they unanimously sided with Trump.