Help: why did Planxty disband?

Subject: why did Planxty disband?
From: Albatross
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 05:34 AM

Anybody know why Planxty disbanded?

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST, Bob Bolton (at home)
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:36 AM

G'day Albatross,

Does anyone know how a band stays together long enough to record without murder and mayhem?

As I have always said: A band is an unnatural act!

Regard(les)s,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:57 AM

Good luck with your solo career, Bob!

Regard

Skipjack

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Callie
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 07:54 AM

Ain't got the answer, but here's another (related?) question. Are Planxty and Moving Hearts the same band? Are Moving Hearts still around? And are they the olny band to ever have doubled fiddle and saxophone? Callie

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Mbo
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 08:13 AM

I think Moving Hearts was a Donal Lunny thing...They weren't the same band exactly...I don't believe they are in business anymore--but if you're liking the fiddle/sax combo, try the band Anam--they're pretty cool!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Callie
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 08:23 AM

Thanks! I'll keep an ear or two out for them. I assume they're Irish? Callie

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Mbo
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 08:35 AM

Actually, they are from ALL OVER THE PLACE! Check out their website here. There's a RA sample of their Cornish Gavottes on the Music page--that's where they get the saxes out. Enjoy!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Callie
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 08:45 AM

Wow! Thanks! It's past midnight - I'm a-bed. 'sbeen great c(h)atting with you!
-Callie

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Midchuck
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 09:00 AM

Maybe when they recorded Norman Blake's Billy Gray under the title of True Love Knows no Season, without (as I understand it) giving him any credit, much less royalties, he got mad and threatened to come over there and raise hell, and they all ran in various directions.

Norman's little, but I wouldn't want to be the one to p*** him off.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,Den
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 10:18 AM

Moving Hearts had Christy Moore and Donal Lunny from Planxty. Thats pretty well the only connection between the two bands that I know. As far as Norman Blake not getting credit for his song which can be heard on the, "The woman I loved so well," album. I'm going from memory here as I am at work. I might look it up and post the direct quote later. But the liner notes say something about Christy Moore learning the song from Noel Shine and that it was written by Norman Blake. As far as royalties I can't say. I dont think that had anything to do with the demise of Planxty, as Christy Moore has had more serious death threats made against him I feel it would take more than that to make him run. I think that musically they began to go in different directions but even after the break up of the band they still guested on each other's solo projects. Den

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,Mbo
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 10:32 AM

Why would ANYONE want to send Christy Moore death threats? The man's a master!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Midchuck
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 10:46 AM

I was only trying to lighten the tension with sort of a joke. About Norman threatening anyone, I mean.

And the only basis for my statement that Norman didn't get credit was that the local folk DJ played Planxty's recording of it with no mention of the correct title or of the correct author, and I thought he would have if there had been anything on the record about it.

I should probably shut up if I don't have all the facts, but where's the fun in that? I have to do that too much in real life.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,Den
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 12:04 PM

I heard an interview with Luka Bloom (Christy's brother)a number of years ago talking about one of his songs on his first album who's title escapes me but the song was inspired by Christy and freedom of speach. Christy's politics have made him unpopular with a certain segment of society in Ireland over the years apparently, he didn't elaborate.

My sentiments exactly Mbo its entirely too bad that ill health has caused him to retire once more from live performances. Den

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,Neil Comer
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 12:15 PM

Unfortunately, my theory about Planxty's untimely demise is slightly more cynical. Paul Brady joined Planxty in the late Seventies, then several months later, the band split. They re-formed to make the Album ( minus Brady), After the Break, but then split again. When Christy Moore was honoured on the Late Late Show, neither Paul Brady nor Andy Irvine ( the latter being one of the original Planxties) were present. I sense a fall-out. Call me cynical if you want, but musicians are infamous for the temperment.

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,Den
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 12:23 PM

Neil, Andy has played on a number of Christy's albums over the years though (after the break up of Planxty). I think Christy was the first long serving member to leave and the band was on its way to splitting at that point. Did they record an album with Paul Brady? (curious, couldn't remember). Den

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Mbo
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:01 PM

Ooh Paul Brady rocks too!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,PJ Curtis
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:10 PM

Donal Lunny was the first to depart the band in early '74 to co-found the Bothy band in 1975. Christy Moore was next to go to be replaced by Johnny Moynihan and Paul Brady. Brady never recorded with them. The reformed Planxty 0f 1979 had Matt Molloy on flute and Bill(Riverdance)Whelan on K-brds and recorded the fantastic After The Break for Tara. Why did they disband in '76? Ask Polydor...their label of the time. PJ Curtis.

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Ana
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 02:43 AM

I guess it's like any relationship - what happens behind closed doors is really only known to those there (and sometimes even they can be oblivious).

So what leads to separations - betrayal/addictions/abuse..sometimes just simple things like divergent philosophies and life directions. It shouldn't really matter to those of us "outside". Ana

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,Paddy Roberts
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 02:45 AM

I was talking to Andy Irvine at the Woodford Folk Festival (Australia) between Christmas and New Year. It was a pleasure to meet him and tell him about how often we had played Planxty tapes on our journey across the Nullarbor in '75. Andy gave a workshop and gave the impression that it was more the pursuit of different interests that lead to the break up than any animosity.

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 07:47 AM

G'day,
We'll be seeing Andy Irvine at a house concert (about 20 people) next week. Should be great!

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: GUEST,TB
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 08:37 AM

Ask Paul McCartney!

Subject: RE: Help: why did Planxty disband?
From: Callie
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 09:03 AM

Alan: whose house?!?!?! Callie