Subject: Bright Shining Morning From: GUEST,radriano Date: 07 Apr 00 - 07:42 PM Hi, everyone, it's me again! I've been surfing the internet looking for historical info on the English hunting song, The Bright Shining Morning. The song is in the database but the version given is credited as having been heard from me singing it in the San Francisco Folk Club in 1983. And I don't remember where I got it from!!! Another senior moment here. Anyone know about the background to this song? Sheepish regards, radriano |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: Barbara Date: 07 Apr 00 - 08:24 PM It's not Copper Family, Richard? Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: Pete Peterson Date: 07 Apr 00 - 08:37 PM I learned it from Swan Arcade (Dave Brady, Heather Brady, Jim Boyes) record out 1973. "This song is from Popular Songs of Sussex, collected by Revd. J. Broadwood and Lucy Broadwood" Just to make sure we are talking about the same song, the chorus ends "awake from your slumbers and hail the new day" Yes? |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: Barbara Date: 07 Apr 00 - 11:28 PM Yes! Yes! (that is to say, and the last line repeats). Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: Bill D Date: 07 Apr 00 - 11:31 PM Lou Killen has an album of that name...it's the title song..perhaps there? |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: kendall Date: 08 Apr 00 - 12:50 PM Lou AND Sally did it!! |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: Sandy Paton Date: 08 Apr 00 - 01:00 PM That's Lou Killen and his (then) wife Sally - Front Hall Records, FHR-06 - Bright Shining Morning, Side A, Cut 4. They learned it from Swan Arcade, who got it from the Broadwood Sussex collection and added a verse of their own. I don't know which one. Sandy |
Subject: RE: Bright Shining Morning From: Artful Codger Date: 06 Sep 06 - 07:21 PM In searching for the original "Sweet Rosy (or Rosey) Morning", I've only been able to come up with obsolete links and index entries. These have pointed to a song "Damon and Phoebe". (When searching, note that the o and e may be ligated as the special character œ, and "and" may be replaced by an ampersand.) The first lines run: When the sweet rosey morning first peep'd from the skies A loud singing lark bade the villagers rise; www.colonialdancing.org provides an index entry for this song, though the "incipit" indicates a different tune entirely. I also found this at the University of Buffalo's British Music Collection index: 721. PRING, Jacob Cubitt, 1771-1799. Damon and Phoebe, a favorite Song with an Accompanyment for the Forte Piano... London: J. Bland [1788]. 3 pp. CPM Vol. 46, p. 110. BUCp. 810. RISM P5461 (only one copy recorded). Can someone provide the Broadwood version of this song, or the full text of "Damon and Phoebe"? |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: GUEST Date: 06 Nov 09 - 09:56 PM Here is a link to "Rosy Morn" clearly a variation of the song. http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getfolk.php?id=953 Phoebus is mentioned in the first line. No music is provided. Anyone know know the tune or where one might find it? --Bill Brown Folk Song Information
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Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Nov 09 - 10:17 PM Here's the version used by the In Harmony's Way group in the San Francisco area (radriano, et al.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fQ6jsworw |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: GUEST,Bob Date: 07 Nov 09 - 09:26 AM I've heard the Wilsons do the Swan Arcade version live, years ago, but I don't think they have ever recorded it. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: KT Date: 07 Nov 09 - 09:45 AM Finest Kind does a wonderful rendition of it on their SILKS & SPICES CD. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: GUEST,padgett on lap top Date: 07 Nov 09 - 10:51 AM The Holmevalley Tradition, Holmfirth West Yorks, in particular Barry Bridgewater, and Will Noble sing this quite regularly The song very likely from Arthur Howard The Holmevalley lot are still hunting with dogs although this has been banned in England, supposedly SWan Arcade's version is probably most popular in England although Barry in particular sings a different set of words passed down orally He does sing Bright Rosy Morning ~ he also currently leads the singing at The George, Upper Denby having taken over from Cyril Latimer and formerly at The Fountain, Ingbirchworth at Christmas!! Ray |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: Joe Offer Date: 30 Mar 20 - 11:00 PM Refresh - this song could use more study. No listing in the Traditional Ballad Index, but it's Roud Number 21097. There's a nice entry in Mainly Norfolk. Here's the version we have in the Digital Tradition: BRIGHT SHINING MORNING Finest Kind sang these same lyrics of "Bright Shining Morning" on their 2003 album Silks & Spices. They claim to have learned the song from Lou Killen. I wonder if Richard Adrianowicz also learned these lyrics from Lou Killen, although Richard sang different lyrics with In Harmony's Way. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: r.padgett Date: 31 Mar 20 - 04:29 PM last post lost!! However appears in The Southern Harvest as written and composed in 1737 ~ originally in Foggy Dew EFDSS Ray |
Subject: ADD Version: On a Bright and Rosy Morning From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Mar 20 - 05:33 PM ON A BRIGHT AND ROSY MORNING (THE SWEET ROSY MORNING) On a bright and rosy morning the sun shone o’er yon hills, Just as the day was dawning across the meadows and fields; CHORUS Whilst the merry, merry, merry horn cries “Come, come, away”, It's awake from your slumber and behold some new day. (twice) The fox rose from his cover, he seem’d for to fly, Our horses at full speed, my boys, our hounds in full cry; He led us a chase, my boys, for fifty long miles, Over hedges and ditches, over gates and over stiles; Our day’s sport being over, our horses at their ease, We will call for a bowl, my boys, to drink when we please; Singer: William Randall Hursley, Hampshire, June 1905 From The Foggy Dew, page 64 (selected and edited by Frank Purslow, EFDS Publications, 1974) Notes:
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Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: GUEST,Starship Date: 31 Mar 20 - 06:50 PM From the LOC: https://www.loc.gov/resource/sm1835.361330.0/?sp=1 |
Subject: ADD Version: Bright Rosy Morning From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Mar 20 - 07:32 PM Thanks, Starship. THE BRIGHT ROSY MORNING The bright rosy morning peeps over the hills, With blushes adorning the meadows and fields. CHORUS |: While the merry, merry, merry horn calls come, come away, Awake from your slumbers and hail the new day. :| The stag rous'd before us, Away seems to fly, And pants to the chorus Of hounds in full cry. CHORUS |: Then follow, follow, follow, The musical chase Where pleasure and vigour, And health all embrace. :| The day's sport when over, makes blood circle right, And gives the brisk lover fresh charms for the night. CHORUS |: Then let us, let us now enjoy All we can while we may; Let love crown the night, boys, as our sports crown the day. :| Source: https://www.loc.gov/resource/sm1835.361330.0/?sp=1 Published by Oliver Ditson, Boston - I can't read the date for sure, but it looks like it was submitted for copyright in 1835 |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: GUEST,Starship Date: 31 Mar 20 - 08:49 PM Welcome, Joe. The date is 1835 btw. If you do a Google of The bright rosy morning peeps over the hills, With blushes adorning the meadows and fields. You will be taken to a gang of publications/books the song has appeared in. At a quick glance, 1835 is the earliest date so far, and someone earlier in the thread mentioned the 1700s, so I'll keep looking. |
Subject: RE: Origin: Bright Shining Morning From: r.padgett Date: 01 Apr 20 - 04:02 AM Roud 21097 Written by Henry Carey and composed by Richard Leveridge (not too sure exactly what this means btw) 1737 In Southern Harvest: My friend Steve Gardham probably did all the provenance notes!! refers to an 18th century printing from an upmarket songster complete with tune and hand coloured engraving, in regard to BSM Ray |
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