Help: Courtin' songs

Subject: Courtin' songs
From: big48mama
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 11:49 PM

I am attending college this summer working on Master's in Music and am doing my Master's Thesis on "Courtin' Songs". I would appreciate any information, stories, hits, ideas, anything which would help me in my research endeavor. Even any travelling salesman, courting jokes, (keep it PG-13 rated please). Anything about this topic. Thanks

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: alison
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 11:57 PM

try a search (search box at the top of page)for

Courtin' in the kitchen
Travelling salesman

both in the DT

I'm about to be disconnected or I'd help.... welcome to Mudcat

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 12:40 AM

or you could just type courting Digitrad Lyrics Search Box and you will get 447 courting songs or songs with the word "courting" in them.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST,mary g
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 12:56 AM

I am not sure what you mean by a courting song...is there a definition? Is it about courting or specific songs sung in order to court...for generic songs about courting...the Spinning Wheel, Dainty Davy, I once loved a lass...seeing Nelly Home, wait for the wagon, ...mg

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: bob jr
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 01:02 AM

i recommend um banks of the bann and belle isle! they are two of my favorites although i dont know exactly what you are looking for in courtin? i mean matty groves is a courtin song kinda....

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Baba
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 01:41 AM

What sort of songs? Songs where the couple are happily united in the end, or delicious songs where the female being courted thwarts the undesirable male's advances, or perhaps songs with a tragic ending ...

Further to Metchosin's suggestion above, try typing

@courting

in the Mudcat search box. It will give you all the songs in the database category of "courting".

Good luck! *BABA*

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Metchosin
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 01:53 AM

but BABA you only get 390 that way *BG*

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST,junebug
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 03:01 AM

Two of my favorites are "Pretty Little Reckless Boy" (oh when are you gonna come court me...)and "Aunt Sal's Song" (listed in the database as "The Bashful Courtship") from the Ritchie family tradition.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Stewie
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 03:11 AM

Stephen Sedley's 'The Seeds of Love', published by TRO Essex Music Ltd in association with the English Folk Dance and Song Society, should be on your list - an excellent collection of songs about love and courting.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 04:48 AM

The Tinkermans Daughter.. a great song... if not what everyone thinks of as a happy ending...

{~`

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: folk1234
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 09:17 AM

Dear Big48Mama:
Welcome to mudcat!
I'm happy you took my suggestion and asked mudcat. See, in the first 8 hours you already got 9 responses.

Happy chords,
folk1234

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Kim C
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 10:14 AM

I am especially fond of night visiting songs.... I guess there's an element of intrigue there!

Somebody --- and now I can't remember who but it isn't Smithsonian --- has a HUGE collection of English folk songs which spans about 20 volumes and they are broken up by category. We have the Songs of Seduction CD, which has some sweet songs on it as well as some bawdy ones. I believe there is another CD in that collection that has songs of romance or something on it. I'm sorry I can't remember the company offhand.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 10:28 AM

Am trying to recall what song has the lyric If You Do Not When You May You Shall Not When You Will, Sir. It's about a man attempting to get a woman to lie down for him, promising her he'll be really careful of her dress, and she gets all pi**y, apparently, because if he were really passionate he wouldn't care about her dress... or something... very strange song I like a lot about how NOT to court.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 12:41 PM

Kim C - I was about to post the same recommendation! It's the original Topic collection, buut recently reissued; the whole thing is great - don't think that you'll only find courting songs under Songs of Seduction tho, try all the others as well. One of my favourites, that I've known for ever, is Bogie's Bonny Belle - sung by Davy Stewart on this collection.

jayohjo XX

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST,Guest: Doris
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 01:55 PM

I s'pose I should look at the DT listing to see if it's there, but I have a favorite which was sung by Harry Lauder. I understand the English thumb their noses at Lauder because his "folk songs" are not truly traditional. I like 'em anyway. The one I like goes I'm a-courtin a farmer's daughter and a sweeter gal you've never seen Her cheeks they are a rosy red And she is just sweet seventeen I put my arms around her waist to try to steel a kiss She starts in wigglin', twistin' jigglin' Then she starts in shoutin this: Oh-oh, stop your ticklin'. Jock Won't you stop your ticklin' Jock Sure ye make me laugh so hearty That I nearly choke Stop all your nonsense Just look at all the folk! Stop your ticklin', Tickle,ickle,icklin Stop your ticklin Jock.

Song may go I further. I don't know. Sung in a scottish brogue.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:19 PM

"Down By The River Garden" (Rose Connelly) She falls asleep. He has a bit too much wine and kills her.

My favorite line: "My father often told me
Money would set me free
If ever I murdered that dear little girl
Whose name was Rose Connelly."

What was Daddy thinking?

Mary

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Jon W.
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:24 PM

Here's one I coudn't find in the DT

Never Wad an Auld Man

An auld man cam courtin me
Hi doo a derricky
An auld man cam courtin me,
Me bein young
An auld man cam courtin me
Hi doo a derricky
Maids when you're young never wad an auld man

When we went tae the church
I left him in the lurch
When we went tae the church,
Me bein young
When we went tae the church
I left him in the lurch
Maids when you're young never wad an auld man

When we went tae our tea
He started teasing me
When we went tae our tea
Me bein young
When we went tae our tea
He started teasing me
Maids when you're young never wad an auld man

When we went tae our bed
He lay as he was dead
When we went tae our bed
Me bein young
When we went tae our bed
He lay as he was dead
Maids when you're young never wad an auld man

---

This song is in DT under the title "Maids When You're Young Never Wed An Old Man." -JoeClone 10-Jan-2001.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:28 PM

OOOPS- Willow Garden.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Mbo
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 05:41 PM

A CLASSIC--The Seton's Lassie, by Ceolbeg.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: Bert
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 05:41 PM

harbour lecou"

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 05:56 PM

Jon W - is that on topic too? not sure...

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs2
From: big48mama
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 08:07 AM

Thanks for all your threads. I'm at the point in my "Courtin' Songs" research, I now have to start narrowing the research to American Courtin' Songs or even better yet Courtin' Songs of the Southern/Appalachian States. (From Oklahoma Eastward.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: alison
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 09:46 AM

JonW, it is in the DT.. just with the more conventional spelling MAIDS WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG NEVER WED AN OLD MAN

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: GUEST,barry
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 09:53 AM

Anyone got the words of a song called.Palace Grand please.

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: alison
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 10:16 AM

Hi Barry,

you'll have more luck if you start a different thread with "Palace Grand" in the title.... otherwise your request is likely to get lost in this one...

welcome to Mudcat

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Help: Courtin' songs
From: alison
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 10:18 AM

oops... I see you've already done that..... just ignore that last post.... hopefully someone will be able to help

slainte

alison