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Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
Charlie Mopps


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Subject: beer,beer,beer
From: GUEST,Per Axel Hisdal
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 08:42 AM

Anyone have the lyrics of beer,beer,beer, preformed by the Dubliners or/and the Rovers??


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer ^^
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 09:51 AM

I have it by The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem. I ws *shocked, shocked* to find it missing from the Trad. Here is what I remember:

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups o'tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

(Chorus) He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

A bushel of (...?), a barrel of (...?), you stir it around with a stick
The sort of lubrication to make your engine tick
So come on all ye lucky lads, 11 o'clock she stops
5 short seconds, remember Charlie Mopps
One, two, three, four, five!
(Chorus)

The Jury's Pub, the Clancy's Bar, the hole in the wall as well
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the packs
It's only 8 and 1/8 a pint, and one-and-6 in tax
(Chorus)

Anyone can fill in the holes? Correct what I've been hearing? ^^


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Ringer
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 09:58 AM

Oddly enough, I posted this in a recent thread on beer (a fortnight or three weeks ago?). I didn't know it was CB&TM, I thought it was music hall.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 01:14 PM

That would be  HERE.  I too have always believed the song to come from the Halls, and I still do; the Clanceys recorded the song years ago and may have altered the text and tune a bit (enough to claim a copyright, perhaps) but I really don't think that it's Irish; the tune is typically music hall.  Anyone who has the booklet that came with The Tale of Ale may be able to help with more information; all I could find on the web were references to recordings of "Irish" drinking songs, most of which were actually English or Scots...

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: SeanM
Date: 19 Jul 00 - 12:39 PM

From the Clancy's version posted above, I'd always heard the lyrics as:

The Furey's Bar, The Clancy's Pub
The Hole in the Wall as well

Always seemed like a moderately subtle way to include one's mates along in a song...

M


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: MMario
Date: 19 Jul 00 - 12:43 PM

Pyrates Royale do a lovely lively version of this


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Ringer
Date: 19 Jul 00 - 01:05 PM

Thanks for the link, Malcolm. Never could do the blue cliquey thing.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jul 00 - 12:24 AM

Oh, I don't think the Clancys&TM claimed (c), I just meant that's whose version I had. Thanks for the blicky to the other thread, it was fun; I still can't stand beer, despite years and years of concerted effort to learn to get past the taste. Luckily (if you want to look at it that way) I do like liquor, so at least I'm not no fun at all. Not that I have anything against teetotalling, I just wouldn't do it by choice. Not as a lifetime choice, anyway.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: The Lighthouse
Date: 20 Jul 00 - 12:19 PM

Actually The Clancy's did this on an album called "Flowers in the Valley" after Tommy Makem had left the group. They redid it later with Robbie O'Connell. The only Clancy CD version I know is on a compilation of drinking songs by them and the Dubliners.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: SeanM
Date: 20 Jul 00 - 06:23 PM

I've got that Clancys version too. Friend of mine has a copy on another CD that he found, but the bastard moved away before I could get the name to procure a copy...

M


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Subject: Lyr Add: BEER, BEER, BEER
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Jul 00 - 07:37 PM

Here are the lyrics Bald Eagle posted in the "BS: Beer" thread. Would somebody like to put them all together into a definitive version of the lyrics that can be added to the database? Is it just hops that gets repeated, or is it the last word of every stanza, or what? For that matter, is the title of Bald Eagle's lyrics "Beer, Beer, Beer?
-Joe Offer-

BEER, BEER, BEER

A long time ago, way back in history,
When all they had to drink was nothing but cups of tea,
Along came a bloke by the name of Charlie Mopps,
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops (hops hops hops hops, etc).

Chorus:
He ought to have been an Admiral, a Sultan or a King
And to his praises we shall always sing.
Look what he has done for us: he's filled us with good cheer.
God bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer.

Here in Chesterfield [substitute your own locale] we drink beer a lot.
Down Whittington Moor [ditto] on a Saturday night, the pace gets rather hot.
We'll drink a half, or sometimes two, it's cool and fresh and clear:
God bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer.

Chorus

The Admiral, the Connaught, the Hole in the Wall as well;
No matter what their name is, it's Charlie's beer they sell.
So come along, my lively lads, at eleven o'clock they stop:
For five short seconds, remember Charlie Mopps. (One... two... three, four, five)

Chorus

Music-hall, I presume, though I've only ever heard it from the singing of the late, great Dick Rendall, one time Squire of Manchester Morris Men. And I don't even know its official title.^^
(from Bald Eagle)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Melbert
Date: 21 Jul 00 - 05:05 PM

It's also on the album "Down the Hatch" by Cyril Tawney.

Sleeve credits identify it only as "traditional"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Snuffy
Date: 24 Jul 00 - 08:34 PM

A fellow Shakespeare Morris Man has a photocopy he took from a library book, where the song is called "Charlie Mopps", with no attribution whatever. I'll try and get hold of it and see how that comapares with the words posted.


Wassail! V


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Subject: Lyr Add: BEER, BEER, BEER / CHARLIE MOPPS ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:33 PM

Here's a composite I made from the lyrics posted by Mrrzy and Bald Eagle, along with a bit here and there from Jerry Silverman's 62 Outrageous Songs. I'll send the tune to Mudcat MIDIs.
-Joe Offer-

BEER, BEER, BEER (CHARLIE MOPPS)

A long time ago, way back in history,
When all they had to drink was nothing but cups of tea,
Along came a bloke by the name of Charlie Mopps,
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops (hops hops hops hops, etc).

Chorus:
He ought to have been an Admiral, a Sultan or a King
And to his praises we shall always sing.
Look what he has done for us: he's filled us with good cheer.
God bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer. (beer, beer, beer, diddley, beer, beer beer)

Here in Chesterfield [substitute your own locale] we drink beer a lot.
Down Whittington Moor [ditto] on a Saturday night, the pace gets rather hot.
We'll drink a half, or sometimes two, it's cool and fresh and clear:
God bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer.
Chorus

The Admiral, the Connaught, the Hole in the Wall as well;
No matter what their name is, it's Charlie's beer they sell.
So come along, my lively lads, at eleven o'clock they stop:
For five short seconds, remember Charlie Mopps. (One... two... three, four, five)
Chorus

A bushel of hops, a barrel of malt, you stir it around with a stick
The sort of lubrication to make your engine tick
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks
It's only fourpence ha'penny a pint and a shilling and tuppence in tax
(Chorus)

Music-hall, I presume, though I've only ever heard it from the singing of the late, great Dick Rendall, one time Squire of Manchester Morris Men. And I don't even know its official title.

(Bald Eagle)
(Mrrzzy)

^^


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Subject: Tune Add: BEER, BEER, BEER / CHARLIE MOPPS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:34 PM

ABC format:

X:1
T:Charlie Mopps
M:6/8
Q:1/4=120
K:D
A5G|F3F2F|F5F|F2FE2D|A,5d|d2dd2d|d3A3|BBAG2F|
E5A|d3d2d|d3A2A|B2Gd2B|A5F|A2AAAA|AAAAAG|
F2FF2E|D21/8||


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 06:00 AM

G'day,
Thanks to Joe the tune for "Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)" can be found here at the Mudcat MIDI site.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Dani
Date: 14 Oct 03 - 03:45 PM

Refreshing my mind on some lyrics for the Getaway, I see that the Clancy Brothers credit "E.Winter", along with themselves.


Dani


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: GUEST,Chicago tinker
Date: 15 Oct 03 - 12:16 PM

As for the holes in the given lyrics from the Clancy version, I believe the recipe is "a bushel of malt, a barrel of hops, you stir it around with a stick."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 02:30 PM

Eric Winter was active on the folk scene in those days (I have two albums for which he wrote the sleevenotes), but I never heard of him as a songwriter. Help, anyone?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 08:10 AM

chuj


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: beer,beer,beer
From: Fergie
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 09:32 AM

I was of the opinion that this was an Australian song. It is included as one of the songs in the Australian Musical "Reedy River"
Fergus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 10:51 AM

G'day Fergus,

If the song does not appear in the Reedy River Song Book (at least, not any of the editions put out by the David Millis & John Meredith for the New Theatre).

It may appear in other companies' production (eg - London production) ... but the Australian appearance of the song comes from the Bush Music Club's Singabout magzine, vo. 3, no. 3, p.7, Winter/Spring 1959, where it is credited as collected from the chief refrigeration engineer of the SS Tekoa in 1953 by Redd Sullivan.

We considered it an English song (the SS Tekoa was English ... ?). Admittedley, by the 1960s Poms were saying they had never heard the song ... but they weren't on the SS Tekoa!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Amos
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 11:15 AM

This song is NOT to be confused with the one about Beer, Beer, Beer in the Quartermaster's Corps, I take it.

A


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Little Robyn
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 04:38 PM

Frank Fife, an Aussie import to NZ, used to sing it regularly at the Balladeer coffee bar in the 60s. His words were a little different as I recall but we always joined in lustily....
"So come along me lucky lads, at 10 o'clock she stops,
For 5 short seconds remember Charlie Mops
A-1, a-2, a-3,4,5,
Well, he ought to be an admiral...."

Our records suggest it might have something to do with John Forman, the Broadside King.
Robyn


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Subject: Lyr Add: CHARLIE MOPPS
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 04 - 11:49 PM

Here's a different version. Most definitely music hall with the five second pause referred to by Robyn.

Charlie Mopps.

A long time ago way back in history,
When all they had to drink was nothing but cups of tea,
Along came a man and by the name of Charlie Mopps,
And he invented a wonderful drink and he gave it the name of hops.

Ch:         Oh he should have been an emperor a Sultan or a King,
And all his praises ever shall we sing,
Oh look at what he's done for us, he's filled our hearts with cheer,
God bless Charlie Mopps the man who invented beer.

Phil.

When beer was first invented it was very very dear,
Fancy paying a chaser for a glorious glass of beer,
People of the day were foolish so they say,
They used to chew the hops and throw the beer away.

You can talk about inventors of today being up to date,
Our animated pictures and our photographs so great,
But the greatest inventor of them all, to me is plain and clear,
It's Charlie Mopps the man who invented beer.

The day that Charlie died he came to Heaven's gate,
He said to St Peter now tell me how I rate,
Saint Peter looked at him and said now who the Hell are you,
He said I'm Charlie Mopps, Saint Peter said straight through.

At the Central Imperial the Riverside as well,
One thing you can be sure it's Charlie's beer they sell,
So come on all you lucky lads at ten-o-clock she stops,
For five short seconds remember Charlie Mopps


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 06:40 AM

G'day GUEST,

Do you have any details on this particular version? It has extra verses we, in Australia, always took to be English (in fact, some were sent to Singabout Magazine by English subscribers ... but we were of the opinion that your fourth verse (The day that Charlie died ...) was written by one of our members.

As the song seems to have bounced about between countries (common enough, when sailors were involved) it may be that the extra verse fed back to wherever you may be.

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: greg stephens
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 11:15 AM

Eric Winter edited "The Challenge Songbook"(not sure of the date, but it cost me half a crown) in which "Charley Mopps" appeared. In that, he credits it to Redd Sullivan collecting off the chief refrigeration officer of the SS Takoa in 1953, as mentioned earlier. The Challenge Sonbook was a young Communist type of publication.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Fergie
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 09:18 PM

G'day
Today I found my copy of REEDY RIVER by Dick Diamond an LP recorded at the Thomas Mann Theatre by the AMWSU, featuring the New Theatre 1979 Cast. The songs are listed as follows;
1


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Fergie
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 09:56 PM

I dont know what happened there my message got launched with no imput from this end.

1. Click Go the Shears
2. By the Eumerella Shore
3. Reedy River
4. Reedy Lagoon
5. Old Bullock Dray
6. My Old Black billy
7. Lime Juice Tub
8. Wake Up Landlord
9. Wild Rover No More
10. Charlie Mopps
11. The Ballad of 1891
12. Lazy Harry's - The Road to Gundagai
13. The Ryebuck Shearer
14. Widgeegoweera Joe
15. Click Goes The Shears
16. Springtime it Brings on the Shearing
17. Banks of the Condamine
18. Four Little Johnny Cakes
19. Lachlan Tigers
20. Finale

This is the source of my belief that the Charlie Mopps is an Australian Traditional song.

I had a very minor backstage contribution to this production, as a member of the AMWSU and the then Young Socialist League I became involved in setchanging and stagehand work. I was a young migrant worker to Australia at the time and the experience gave me a good introduction to the modern Australian tradition and fostered in me a deep affection for Australian folk and bushmusic.
Fergus


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Eric Barret..
Date: 11 Apr 04 - 11:00 PM

I heard this last week from Pat Cooksey in Coventry, totallly
different words, I think he wrote them himself, really funnuy
and in German at the end.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 12:09 AM

A bushel of malt, a barrel o hops...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 02:06 AM

G'day Fergie,

I see that your recording is from the 1979 Sydney production of Reedy River ... the recording I was checking was from the 1954 Sydney production ... which did not use the song Charlie Mopps. As we (the Bush Music Club) published the song in 1959, it's entirely possible that the 1979 production decided to used the song (the script does not specify which songs are in the play) on the suggestion of one of the many Bush Music Club members involved in that production ... or, simply because the song had become so popular.

(The BMC had a copyright run-in with our recording company after recording the song on a 1964 LP - The Club would not claim copyright, despite prompting to make such a claim by the record company's A & R men ... and, some time late, a 'pop' version appeared ... with copyright claimed by the same A & R men! We protested - and they withdrew their 'claim'.)

It is interesting that Eric Winter's The Challenge Songbook also cites the collection of the song by Redd Sullivan, from the chief refrigeration officer of the SS Tekoa in 1953. I must reread our entry on the song ... it may be that publication in our Singabout magazine drew on other primary sources ... or that The Challenge Songbook drew on us ... who knows? (I'll try to find out!)

BTW: Joe Offer - I remember the: "A bushel of hops... shilling and tuppence in tax" stanza as having: "Shame! Shame! Shame!" chanted after it (and before the standard chorus) in much the same way that "1,2,3-4-5" follows the "... ten o'clock she stops." stanza.


Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 21 Apr 04 - 04:14 AM

Bill Cotton used to do it in the fifties: for "nothing but cups of tea" he had "cups of Rosy Lee". When I first heard it, the pub names lines went "At the [name of the pub you're in] on a [day of week] night there's one thing you can tell/One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's brew they sell"

Steve


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Pete S
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 01:55 PM

Oh a long time ago, in darkest historee
When all we had to drink was nothing but cups of tea
Along came a fellow,name of Charlie Mopps,
Invented a drink, a hell of a stink, made from malt and hops.

Ohh, he    ought a' been a Admiral, a Sultan or a King
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what 'e 'as done for us - he's filled us up wi' cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the Man Who Invented Beer,beer,beer,
B-b-b-Beer, beer, beer
Well.............Etc etc.

THis is the start - and all I can remember - of what John Wheeler used to sing at Dundee University in the early 70's.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Billy Weeks
Date: 09 Jul 04 - 06:04 AM

It sounds music hally, but I'm pretty sure it isn't. Classic music hall material (because of the activities of licensing and watch committees) rarely includes the name of God other than in sticky sentimental songs. My guess is that this is 1930s or later and probably originated with a Young Communist League song writer. I seem to remember it appearing in an early issue of 'Sing' magazine, but can't for the moment lay my hand on the copy.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:09 AM

G'day,

Thanks for reviving the thread Pete S, I'd missed it, and the song brings back many fond memories.

Robyn - I;ve just emptied my pipe into a heavy brown earthenwarer ashtray - one of a pair Frank gave me the night the Balladeer closed. Remember them? Pre-1967 Frank used to sing ".. at 6 o'clock she stops" - remember the 'swill'? Warwick Brock (Rest his soul) persisted in ending the chorus..

.... he filled us all with bliss,
... Charlie Mopps - the man who invented P***!


I think most of the verses Frank sang are enshrined in the later postings, and like you, I assume he brought them Trans-Tasman. Which leads to a question for...

Bob Bolton - In a post above there was a mention of one F Winter in association with one of the Clancey versions. That would be Frank Winter, would it not? Frank Fyfe learned many of his somgs from him, if I recall right. Anyway.... on to...

Redd Sullivan - What a Man!!! Ihe version I recall him singing many times, at Curly d'el Monte's Poles Apart in Auckland was akin to the one above...

I'll leave it here - too many thoughts curdling my brain cell.

Cheers - Sam (drinking whisky)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: sapper82
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:32 AM

MANY MANY years ago, way back in the early '60s, my sister had a Swedish pen pal with whom she exchanged records. One of those she received was by someone called Hans "Hasse" Burman with "Balladen om Charlie Mopp" on one side!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:42 AM

And to Susanne who asked about Eric Winter as a songwriter......

In the Oak Publications "New English Broadsides" edited by Nathan Joseph and Eric WInter, he is credited with 6 songs of which he wrote the words of "Comealllye and Goback agai" with Stan Kelly; Ditto for "Four Ponds a Day"; the music for "The Hunters" words by Terry Gould; ditto for "I'll tell you where to put it if you like" words by ALex COmfort; ditto for "They let Delgado Die", music by Maurice Rosenbaum; and finally he is credited with "The Jolly Farmer" as Tradiotnal words and music adapted by Eric Winter.

Seems like he was adapter, songwriter and music writer.

Best regards,

Dave Eyre
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 09:50 AM

G'day,

Bill Weeks: I'm sure the song never appeared on the British "legitimate" stage ... it would never get past the Lord Chancellor (or whoever issued imprimatur for acceptable stage fare. However, someone might argue that really classic music hall material was what happened, in the early part of the 1800s, before it went "legitimate" ... when a bunch of Cockneys would rent a shop front and turn it into a "music hall" ... until authority descended on them - and they scarpered with the takings and a rent bill (if not a bill for repairing the unauthorised "renovations"!).

However, it probably comes out of the left end of working class ... and, obviously with the Redd Sullivan connection, the merchant marine (and maybe a Navy one too: " ... ought to be an Admiral ... &c ... ". The merchant marine connection certainly explains it turning up all round the world (even sapper82's Swedish "Balladen om Charlie Mopp"!

Sam: You are probably right ... and better placed than I am to speculate!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 10:22 AM

Mumble....

Let's look at his name! Did Charley "Mop the Deck"?

Cheers - Sam


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Barrie Roberts
Date: 11 Jul 04 - 11:08 AM

The late Eric Winter was quite q prolific songwriter, but sometimes amazingly shy about the product of his muse. For example, he wrote 'The Flowers of Manchester' to mourn the Manchester United crash in 1958, but published it anonymously. He also wrote the song that chills the blood of folkclub organisers === 'The Night That Nobody Came'.

More to the 'Charlie Mopps' point, Eric also loved adding verses to things. The one that sticks in my memory is a new last verse to 'John McCafferty':

So all you swaddies take advice from me,
Treat your arms drill a lot more seriously,
For if you do you might find that
You'll hit the bastard you were aiming at!

So it aint impossible that he added to somebody's version of 'Charlie Mopps', which, incidentally, I learned off aforementioned Redd Sullivan. Eric Winter wrote a handsome obituary for Redd in The Independent, which was followed up by The Guardian and The Times, no less.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Little Robyn
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 03:22 AM

Sam, Frank Winter is more likely to have learned it from Frank Fyfe, not the other way around.
I think Frank Fyfe had mags or song books from the Bush Music Club and I'm pretty sure that's where he found it, and lots of others too.


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Subject: Lyr Add: BEER BEER BEER (from The Pogues)
From: GUEST,Pogues Fan
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 11:26 PM

The Irish Punk Band The Pogues Sing This Song With The Lyrics:

1 2 3 Beer Beer Beer tiddly Beer Beer Beer.

A long time ago, beginning of history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups of tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hopps

Chorus:
He'd like to have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
the man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer.


The Purest Bar, Fanciest, this hole in the wall as well
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So come on all you lucky lads, eleven o'clock she stops
Five drop seconds remember Charlie Mopps

chorus

A bushel of malt, a barrell of hopps, he stirs it with a stick
The kind of lubrication that'll make your engine tick
Forty pints a wallop a day to keep away the cracks
It's only eight seventy a pint, with one o six in tax


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Subject: Lyr Add: BEER, BEER, BEER (CHARLIE MOPPS)
From: GUEST,Eric D.
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 06:41 PM

I don't know who sang it, but here's how I heard it:

One! Two! Three!
Beer, beer, beer, diddley, beer, beer, beer!

A long time ago, way back in history,
When all they had to drink was nothing but cups of tea,
Along came a lad by the name of Charlie Mopps,
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

CHORUS: He must have been an admiral, a sultan or a king,
And to his praises we shall always sing.
Look what he has done for us: he's filled us all with cheer.
God bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer.
(Beer, beer, beer, diddley, beer, beer, beer.)

The (your location), (another location), the Hole in the Wall as well;
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell.
So come along, my lively lads, at eleven o'clock they stop:
For five short seconds, remember Charlie Mopps.
(One... Two... Three, four, five) CHORUS

A bushel of malt, a barrel of hops, you stir it around with a stick:
The sort of lubrication to make your engine tick.
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks.
It's only 8 and 1/8 a pint, and one-and-6 in tax.
(One... Two... Three, four, five) (chorus)

Diddley, beer, beer, beer
And long live Charlie Mopps!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Imafish2005@aol.com
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:36 PM

Might anyone have a mp3 of Beer, Beer, Beer?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Luiz!!!
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:50 AM

I have it, its awesome.

The curious thing is that i first herad this song at a Playstation 2 game, called The Bard´s Tale.
They put some diferent words but its the same song. I learned how to sing but playing.


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Subject: Lyr Add: BEER, BEER, BEER (CHARLIE MOPPS)
From: GUEST,GUEST, Slovenian guy.
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 07:24 AM

I don't know abbaut other wrzions but in a game The BardsTale i heard it like this

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups o'tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops. Hey!

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

The drunken rat, the aken drum, trowen pub as well
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
so all you lads and lasses ant eleven o'clock ye stop
for five short seconnds remember charlie mops. one, two thre four five.... HEY!

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

a barrel of malt, a bushel of mops, you stir it around with a stick
The sort of lubrication to make your engine tick
40 pints of wallop will keep away the quacks
It's only 8 and 1/8 a pint, and one-and-6 in tax

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

LORD BLES CHARLIE MOPS!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Midnight Runner
Date: 13 Aug 05 - 03:10 PM

Does anyone know gitar cords or tabs for this song?
Cuz it would be very funny to sing along with lads in some kinda pub!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Maggie
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 04:49 PM

The Pogues
Beer (Traditional)

1 2 3 Beer Beer Beer tiddly Beer Beer Beer.

A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups of tea
Along came a man, by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hopps

(CHORUS)
He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
the man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer.


The purest bar, the fanciest pub, the hole in the wall as well
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So come on all me lucky lads, eleven o'clock she stops
Five drop seconds remember Charlie Mopps
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

(CHORUS)
He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
the man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer.

A bushel of malt, a barrell of hopps, and stir it around with a stick
The sort of lubrication that make your engine tick
Forty pints a wallop a day to keep away the cracks
It's only 8 and 1/8 a pint, and one-and-6 in tax.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

(CHORUS)
He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
the man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer.

We'll all miss Charlie Mopps!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 05 - 05:07 PM

The Pogues - "Beer, Beer, Beer"

1 2 3 Beer Beer Beer tiddly Beer Beer Beer.

A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups of tea
Along came a man, by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hopps

(CHORUS)
He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
The man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer.

The purest bar, the fanciest pub, the hole in the wall as well
Ah one thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So come on all me lucky lads, eleven o'clock she stops
For five drop seconds remember Charlie Mopps
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

(CHORUS)
He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
the man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer.

A bushel of malt, a barrell of hopps, and stir it around with a stick
The sort of lubrication that make your engine tick
Ah 40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks
It's only 8 and 1/8 a pint, and one-and-6 in tax.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps,
the man who invented beer beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer tidilly beer beer beer
We'll all miss Charlie Mopps!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Sarah
Date: 15 Dec 05 - 06:39 PM

the song is also featured in the game "a bard's tale" for pc and playstation 2....the lyrics are as follows (in the game at least)

beer beer beer tiddily beer beer beer tiddilly
beer beer beer tiddily beer beer beer

a long time ago way back in history
when all there was to drink was nothin but cups of tea
along came a man by the name of charlie mopps
and he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops

HEY!

he must have been an admiral a sultan or a king!
and to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless charlie mopps
the man who invented beer

beer beer tiddily beer beer beer

The drunken rat the aiken drum the trowles pub as well
one thing you can be sure of
it's charlie's beer they sell
so all ye lads and lasses
at 11 o'clock ye stop
for 5 short seconds remember charlie mops
1....2....3....4....5!

HEY

he must have been an admiral a sultan or a king
and to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer
lord bless charlie mops the man who invented

beer beer beer tiddilly beer beer beer

a barrel of malt
a bushel of hops
ya stir it around with a stick
the type of lubrication to make your engines tick
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks
it's only 8 pence hapenny and one and six in tax

he must have been an admiral a sultan or a king
and to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer
lord bless charlie mopps the man who invented

beer beer beer tiddily beer beer beer tiddily
beer beer beer tiddily beer beer beer tiddilly
beer beer beer...

the lord bless charlie mopps!




i just want to know who ORIGINALLY wrote the song...i heard something about shakespeare??? It seems quite a popular song among the irish and i've heard quite a few different versions. If anyone can give me a link to a possible history of the song that would be great.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 04:27 AM

Have two threads been combined here? It's difficult to see why anyone would think it necessary to quote lyrics from a Pogues record three times in the same discussion, and from a Playstation game twice.

Roy Palmer, incidentally (A Taste of Ale, Kencot (Gloucestershire):Green Branch Press, 2000, 277) notes that the song "was once widespread in oral tradition: for example, British soldiers in India sang it in the 1930s and '40s." The book is a light anthology rather than one of his scholarly works, and he gives no source for this assertion; nor does he seem to have known, at the time, of the earlier publications mentioned above. The set he quotes is transcribed from a recording by 'Brewers Dray' (Mopps Music cassette MM0112); no further details are given. It differs in many respects from the examples quoted earlier.

The Clancy Brothers almost certainly got the song from an English or Australian source, and its recent popularity in Ireland likely derives from their recording of it. I should forget any Shakespearian connection if I were you. Palmer suggests possibly mid 19th century; his instincts are generally good, so it's very unlikely to be older than that; and, as has been suggested earlier here (the best history of the song you are liable to get, I suspect), likely enough to be rather more recent.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GEST
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:17 AM

For what it's worth at this late date, I came across this Mp3:

http://www.herbalbeers.com/mp3ss26.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Mikael
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:25 AM

Anyone know the chords for this song???


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:06 AM

Sorry to be late on this thread, only just seen it.

The song was recorded by the Fureys as "The Man Who Invented Beer" and from memory the lyrics were similar to those above (Charlie Mopps etc.). There was a different song recorded by Rolf Harris (don't know who wrote it or whether it was an Aussie song?) called "The Bloke Who Invented Beer". Anyone know anything about the latter song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,RC
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 01:40 PM

but does Anyone know the chords for this song???


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: woodsie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:19 PM

Here is the version made famous by Bill Gardner an 80 year old bloke who sings at the folkmob club. More or less the same as the other versions but shorter and easy to remember.


Now many years ago
There was nowt but misery
All that people had to drink
Was ginger beer and tea
Until there came upon this earth
A man named Charlie Mopps
And he discovered this wonderful stuff
He gave it the name of "hops"

Now when he first learnt to brew the stuff
He called it "bungaloo"
And if you had the dibs*
On the tiddly* you would go
Now all you tiddly people
That are sitting here
Go down upon your knees and bless
The man who invented beer

Oh he ought t'been an emporor
A sultan or a king
And of his praises
we shall always sing
For see what he has done for us
He's filled our hearts with cheeer
God bless Charlie Mopps
The man who invented beer.



*Dibs = money
Tiddly = Piss/pissed (for U.S. drunk)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GEST
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 11:52 AM

Mikael and RC ~ Chords? You want chords? Well, why didn't you say so? ~grin~

http://wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/18/beer.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jun 06 - 03:19 AM

A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it around with a stick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Absurditties
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 04:48 PM

well laddies,
guess the complete lyrics should be...

one, two, three

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups o'tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

(Chorus) He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer.

The Jury's Pub, the Clancy's Bar, the hole in the wall as well
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So come on all ye lucky lads, 11 o'clock she stops
5 short seconds, remember Charlie Mopps
One, two, three, four, five

(Chorus) He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer.

A bushel of hops, a barrel of malt, you stir it around with a stick
The sort of lubrication that makes your engine tick
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the packs
It's only 8 and 1/8 a pint, and one-and-6 in tax
One, two, three, four, five

(Chorus) He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer.
beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer.


have fun at yor local pub..;-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Scrump
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 05:55 PM

Utter b*ll&cks - beer is made from malted barley (or other source of fermentable material), not hops - the latter are simply used for their preservative powers, and for flavour.

:-D

... I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 07:59 PM

G'day Scrump,

... Yeah ... well, the mob singing this song may be good at drinking the stuff - but not making it!

Regard(les)s,

Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 05:32 AM

Hello,

I have to say that in South London we sing "Charlie Motts". I have nothing against the Mopps family, but Charlie was a South London guy evidenced by his stamping ground of Mottingham! (Village and holding of Mott!)

My version of the verse dealing with the price of beer has it that...

"...a couple of pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks...(i.e. doctors)
It's only 20p a pint and £3 10 in tax!"

Best wishes,

Pete


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Josh Richardson
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 03:02 PM

These are the Exact Lyrics From The Bards Tale!

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cup of tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops

Hey

He must have been admiral, or a sultan or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps
The man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer

The Drunken Rat, The Ainken Drum, The Trudy's pub as well
One thing you can be sure of it's Charlie's beer they sell
So all you lads and lassies at eleven o'clock ye stop
For five short seconds remember Charlie Mopps
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Hey

He must have been admiral, or a sultan or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps
The man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer

A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it round with ye stick
The kind of lubrication to make your engines tick
Twenty pints and one-eighth a day will keep away the quacks
Its only eight pence a penny and only six in tax

Hey

He must have been admiral, or a sultan or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer
Lord bless Charlie Mopps
The man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
The lord bless Charlie mopps!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Appolyon666
Date: 07 Mar 07 - 08:10 PM

the correct lyrics are

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups o'tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he made a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

(Chorus) He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us all with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

The Drunkin' Rat, The Achin Drum, the trowess pub as well,
It's one thing you can be shure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So all ye lads and lasses at eleven o'clock ye stop
For five short seconds remember Charlie Mopps
one, two,three,four,five,hey!

(Chorus) He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us all with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it a'round with a stick
the kind of lubrication to make your engine tick
its 40 pints a wollap a day to keep away the quacks
its only eight pence happining and one and six in tax
one,two,three,four,five,hey!

(Chorus) He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us all with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer tiddily beer beer beer.
the Lord bless Charlie Mopps!Hey!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 04:10 AM

"the correct lyrics are"

Pardon? This is folk music!

Best wishes,

Pet(and it's still MOTTS in Saff Lunnon)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 06:42 AM

"the correct lyrics are"

To make such a claim mean anything - you need to show us your source,

not just your sauce...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Guest, Dannymac
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:06 PM

So after reading all of this I'm still going to have to tell folks,"I just don't know who is responsible for this song or when it was written." Possibly as early as the mid 19th century, but probably not. Ya know that sounds like a folk song. It's just there. It has several different sets of lyrics, and people like to hear and sing it. Thanks for the entertaining read and info.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Shaneo
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 03:37 PM

Great video here


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 03:38 PM

You are most welcome Dannymac!

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,truth syrum
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 03:28 PM

Its so funny how absurdly egocentric European history is seeing as they've been making homemade beer for centuries in Africa long before there ever was a Charlie Mopp legend.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: MMario
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 03:33 PM

the song isn't meant to be an accurate history - (especially since ale and beer were common drinks long before tea)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Goose Gander
Date: 25 Apr 07 - 04:25 PM

"Oh a long time ago, in darkest historee
When all we had to drink was nothing but cups of tea
Along came a fellow,name of Charlie Mopps,
Invented a drink, a hell of a stink, made from malt and hops."

Guest Truth Syrum, you may be a wee bit humor-impaired if you interpret this as "absurdly egocentric European history." Next you'll be telling us that the darby ram was just average-sized after all.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Meh
Date: 14 May 07 - 01:05 PM

Don't know if anyone posted this, but here you can listen to the version from 'The Bard's Tale' it's the third song xD


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 14 May 07 - 03:22 PM

A-hem.....

Motts ol' bean s'il vous plait! :0)


Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: GUEST,Tom Stanyard
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 07:17 PM

Anyone have the chords to Rolf Harris' Bloke Who Invented beer?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Jul 07 - 06:59 PM

Tom Stanyard: I posted the lyrics to THE BLOKE WHO INVENTED BEER in a new thread: Lyr Add: The Bloke Who Invented Beer (Rolf Harris).

Since it's a different song from BEER, BEER, BEER / CHARLIE MOPPS, I figure it deserves its own thread.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,Sausages Not Guns
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 04:30 AM

My great great great great great great great grandfather knew a bloke who knew a bloke who said that Charles Edward Mopps was his uncle. He did invent beer and made a fortune. He died penniless. They reckon that he converted all his assetts to diamonds & gold and then buried this treasure somewhere in kent, the county where he had planted the first hop. Nostradamus quatrains predict that that it will be dug up by a folksinger sometime in 2008.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: goatfell
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 04:54 AM

I'm a teetotaler, but I just love drinking songs, or as we have here in Scotland drunking songs and hangover songs


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 13 Jul 07 - 05:06 AM

Hello Sausages Not Guns,

I hear the price of shovels has risen sharply in Kent since your posting!

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,Deshra
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 12:18 AM

the TRUE correct lyrics are (taken from the Game "The Bard's Tale" PS2)

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups o'tea
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps
And he made a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

(Chorus) He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

The Drunkin' Rat, The Achin Drum, the trowess pub as well,
One thing you can be shure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So all ye lads and lasses at eleven o'clock ye stop
For five short seconds remember Charlie Mopps
one, two,three,four,five,hey!

(Chorus) He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it 'round with a stick
the kind of lubrication to make your engine tick
40 pints a wollap a day will keep away the quacks
its only four pence hay-penny and one and six in tax
one,two,three,four,five,hey!

(Chorus) He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
The Lord bless Charlie Mopps, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer tiddily beer beer beer.
the Lord bless Charlie Mopps!Hey!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: Cluin
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 02:15 AM

And I thought it was:

Beer, beer, beer, titties and beer, beer, beer...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 11:50 AM

Erm...who is this Mopps guy?

"the TRUE correct lyrics are (taken from the Game "The Bard's Tale" PS2)"

PS2? Don't tell me we have folksongs on play stations now?

(Motts....not Mopps!)

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,a bards tale fan these are the true lyrics
Date: 28 May 09 - 06:32 PM

Beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
A long time ago, way back in history
When all there was to drink was nothing but cups o'tea
Along came a man by the name o' Charlie Mops
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

HEY!

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mops, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.

The drunken rat, the alkin drum, the trowlies pub as well
One thing you can be sure of, it's Charlie's beer they sell
So all ye lads and lasses, 11 o'clock ye stop for 5 short
seconds, remember Charlie Mops
One, two, three, four, five.....

HEY!

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mops, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer beer.


A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it around with a stick
The kind of lubrication to make your engine tick
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks
It's only 8 pence happeny, and one-and-6 in tax
One, two, three, four, five.....

HEY!

He might have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king
And to his praises we shall always sing
Ah, look what he has done for us, he's filled us up with cheer
Our Lord bless Charlie Mops, the man who invented beer, beer, beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer tiddly beer, beer, beer

The Lord Bless Charlie Mops!




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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,ELSYNNO
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 06:40 AM

some people have cofused this song with one from a computer game the bards tale but there is also a genuine celtic song its based on (or vice versa) which is similar.
the games version is:

A long time ago, way back in history,
when all there was to drink was nothin but cups of tea.
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mops,
and he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.

He must have been an admiral a sultan or a king,
and to his praises we shall always sing.
Look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer!
Lord bless Charlie Mops, the man who invented beer beer beer
tiddly beer beer beer.

The Curtis bar, the James' Pub, the Hole in the Wall as well
one thing you can be sure of, its Charlie's beer they sell
so all ye lads a lasses at eleven O'clock ye stop
for five short seconds, remember Charlie Mops 1 2 3 4 5

He must have been an admiral a sultan or a king,
and to his praises we shall always sing.
Look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer!
Lord bless Charlie Mops, the man who invented beer beer beer
tiddly beer beer beer.

A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it around with a stick,
the kind of lubrication to make your engine tick.
40 pints of wallop a day will keep away the quacks.
Its only eight pence hapenny and one and six in tax, 1 2 3 4 5

He must have been an admiral a sultan or a king,
and to his praises we shall always sing.
Look what he has done for us he's filled us up with cheer!
Lord bless Charlie Mops, the man who invented beer beer beer
tiddly beer beer beer.

The Lord bless Charlie Mops!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 14 Jan 14 - 01:17 AM

the Australian version Bob Bolton mentioned earlier collected 1953, enhanced version published 1958 A song with a world-wide reputation and many local versions and verses, here is a version collected in Australia & first published by the Bush Music Club in Singabout The Journal of Australian Folksong, Vol 3, no.3, 1958.

It was collected by Redd Sullivan from the Chief Refrigeration Engineer on the SS Tekoa in 1953. The second verse was written by BMC member Peter Francis, and the last verse sent by an English contributor Tam Murrell from Twickenham. BMC members localised the pub names and it became almost the theme song of the club and is still wildly popular 60 years later.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,Elephant
Date: 20 Apr 14 - 01:42 PM

RE:

"Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer (Charlie Mopps)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 16 Dec 05 - 04:27 AM"

Post 9 years ago, I have just caught up with this blog. He mentions "The set he quotes is transcribed from a recording by 'Brewers Dray' (Mopps Music cassette MM0112); no further details are given. It differs in many respects from the examples quoted earlier.

I have a copy of this very cassette, given to me by John Short of Mopps. It is a classic from a very talented band from the 1970's who performed in Becky's Dive bar, the Globe Pub (Both in Southwark, London) and even made an appearance in the "New Faces" TV talent show and gained the distinction of getting 0 points from one judge!.

If anyone is interested in more details give us a shout!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,Elephant
Date: 20 Apr 14 - 01:53 PM

Following on from above - the other traditional (unless mentioned) "Drinking Songs" on the cassette are:

The Flowing Bowl
Bring us a barrel
Pick & the Malt Shovel
Jones's Ale
New York Girls
Jug of Punch
Drop of Good Beer
Old Dun Cow
Plastic Pub (John Short Original)
All for me grog
Wild Rover


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 20 Apr 14 - 05:12 PM

Hmm! Loads of similar versions above, but none of them with one of the verses that I'm familiar with:
Charlie found some malt one day, reclining in a tub.
He poured in hops and water, murmuring "Loverly grub!"
He stirred it with a garden spade and said "What have we here?"
He took a swig, danced a jig, and said "I'll call it beer".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: GUEST,Elephant
Date: 21 Apr 14 - 01:26 PM

Richard,

Sounds like your version is the same as the Mopps version on the "Brewers Dray" tape I have!

Did you ever frequent Becky's Dive Bar in the 70's? Then you would have them singing your lines.


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Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: Beer, Beer, Beer / Charlie Mopps
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Nov 21 - 04:17 PM

Joe - do cleanup


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