Subject: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 25 Jul 00 - 11:35 AM I mentioned in a thread a few days ago that I thought this was the best thing I'd ever heard. I'd had a few beers and was excited about other stuff, so maybe my judgement was impaired. I can however confirm, four days later and completely sober, this song is one of the finest things I've ever heard. Hear it if you can, you'll not regret it... |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: John J Date: 25 Jul 00 - 11:47 AM Twas played on R Lancashire last Thursday night......yes it's a brilliant version, and I was sober ! John J |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 25 Jul 00 - 11:57 AM I heard the song on a BBC Radio 2 Kate Rusby special last Wednesday. I tried to find the record from various sources a few days later but kept being informed that 'we've had it for ages, but but we sold our last copy yesterday' Raise a glass to Kate Rusby, she introduced Nic Jones to lots of us as well! Ed |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 25 Jul 00 - 12:24 PM I quite concur. It has message, meaning, people smarts, a transcendent progression, melodious meticulation, the works! |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: IanS Date: 25 Jul 00 - 12:32 PM It must be about 15 years ago when I first heard Paul Brady singing Arthur McBride and its still one of my favourites. Have you heard his rendition of Lakes of Ponchetrain and the Creech in the Creel - they are equally stunning. Ian |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Whistle Stop Date: 25 Jul 00 - 12:47 PM For those who are interested, there's an article on Paul Brady in the new issue of Acoustic Guitar magazine, and it includes a transcription of his version of Arthur McBride. Apparently he originally recorded it back in the mid-1970's, and has recently re-recorded the same arrangement. Haven't heard either version myself, but I guess I'll have to give it a listen. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Den at work Date: 25 Jul 00 - 12:52 PM You're right Ed IMO its one of the best. In fact I love that whole album wonderful songs and great playing throughout. Den |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Wesley S Date: 25 Jul 00 - 01:25 PM Whistle Stop beat me to it. The issue to look for has Ani DeFranco on the cover. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,PJ Curtis. Date: 25 Jul 00 - 01:37 PM Paul's amazing and definitive version of Arthur McBride , recorded in 1976 with Andy Irvine.(Album title: Andy Irvine & Paul Brady on the Mulligan Label in Ireland) is avb. on CD. Try Mulligan Records, Middle St, Galway..they should have some in stock. Paul re-corded the song for his 'recent 'Best Of..." compilation but the '76 version is still the spine-tingler. PJ Curtis. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 25 Jul 00 - 01:50 PM DGDGBD tuning. The whole album is probably, IMO, the most influential album ever to come out of the Irish Folk scene in the '70's. I was fascinated with it at the time, and already using the 'G' tuning for other things, I hadn't quite realised the scope of it, and it's consequences on the way trad guitarists think about accompaniment of tunes and songs. It took me about three weeks to learn it, at the time, religiously rehearsing every nuance until it all began to sink in. Good craic in Milltown, P.J.? B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Lainie Date: 25 Jul 00 - 02:07 PM I totally agree. An Irish friend played it for me one night and I just couldn't get over how totally fabulous it was... |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 25 Jul 00 - 02:40 PM PJ Curtis, Thanks for giving the details of Paul Brady's first recording of the song. One of the points I was trying to make (badly as usual) was that the few copies of that album have disappeared out of the record shops, since the song was played on mainstream radio. I'm going to have to wait over a week to get the CD - hope my tape of it doesn't break between now and then... Whistle Stop (and others) Is the 'Acoustic Guitar' magazine you mention an American Publication? I'd love to get the tab. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Whistle Stop Date: 25 Jul 00 - 02:48 PM Yes, it's an American magazine. Been around for about ten years, and it's generally pretty good, even though they have to broaden their appeal somewhat to stay commercially viable. Their phone number (toll-free in the USA) is 800-827-6837. I take it that this is kind of a signature song for Paul Brady. Interestingly, he says that the 1976 original recording was played on a Yamaha FG-180 guitar, which is not a particularly good quality instrument (I worked in a music store in the 1970's, and we sold a lot of these student-grade Yamahas). The re-recording was played on a Lowden. If, as someone mentioned, the older version is the best, it goes to show that the quality of the instrument isn't everything. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Den at work Date: 25 Jul 00 - 03:09 PM Very true Whistle stop the quality of his playing And Andy's for that matter was incredible. Just take a listen to Sailing into Walpoles Marsh. Den |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 25 Jul 00 - 03:22 PM Thanks, Whistle Stop. I play a Yamaha - if I had the tab maybe I could play it that well... Anyone know if this is available in the UK? To make a serious point, and at the risk that the thread will drift into talking about this, the quality of instrument (within reason) is one of the least important things in my opinion - your favourite guitarist would be able to make a piece of plywood sound good Ed
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Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: dwditty Date: 25 Jul 00 - 03:25 PM Just an awesome display on notes, IMO. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Wesley S Date: 25 Jul 00 - 04:13 PM There is a website for Acoustic Guitar magazine at www.acousticguitar.com. I don't think it's been updated to include the newest issue that we're talking about. But check it later. It also has an interesting article about healing hand injuries. Check it out. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: oggie Date: 25 Jul 00 - 06:20 PM Planxty also recorded a version prior to Brady joining them and in concerts on his first tour with them (1975ish) he sang their arrangement. Steve |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: gillymor Date: 25 Jul 00 - 07:56 PM Thanks for the tip on the Acoustic Guitar arrangement. A fairly good tab for Lakes of Ponchartrain is on the OLGA, also in open-G. That whole Brady/Irvine album still knocks me on my ear, especially Plains of Kildare with Burke and Lunny. Brady rerecorded McBride and Ponchartrain on his Nobody Knows collection. F
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Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Bearheart Date: 25 Jul 00 - 10:27 PM Well, I checked out this thread thinking someone would give the lyrics! Have been listening to that particular album since the late 70's and it's still one of my favorites--- would love to see "The Plains of Kildare" lyrics in this collection too (guess I should check?), again it's one of my favorites-- one of the best versions of that ballad that is out there... |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: gillymor Date: 25 Jul 00 - 11:01 PM Hi Bearheart, It doesn't look like Brady's version is in the database but you can find it at www.paulbrady.com Frankie |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Melani Date: 26 Jul 00 - 01:43 AM One of the greatest folk albums ever made. Every single cut is a total classic. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:32 AM The "Rise Up Singing" book has the lyrics in close form. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Hamish Date: 26 Jul 00 - 07:25 AM Yes: I've always loved Paul's version. And then I heard Dylan's version. And I still love Paul's. And so does Dylan, obviously, 'cos he copied as well as he could. Just not anywhere near as good as Paul (imho). Cheers, Hamish, http://www.lombardy.clara.net |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,bill@4-mat.net Date: 08 Sep 00 - 08:16 AM I hav been searching for years for a copy of the fingering/chords/tuning of Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride... can u help ? Thanks Bill |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 08 Sep 00 - 08:34 AM Yo Bill. I'll do it. Give me to the end of next week with it, though; I'm slow enough when it comes to transcribing stuff, and there's a few other things I have to do. The tuning he uses is (from the treble 'E') DBGDGD. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: NEIL COMER Date: 08 Sep 00 - 01:53 PM Like 'Arthur McBride,' Paul Brady plays another classic song on the album with Andy Irvine, 'Mary and the Soldier.' I have a live version of Paul Brady playing Arthur McBride on video. It was recorded by RTE in the Seventies, but was shown again on the program, 'Sessions from the Seventies.' I with they would repeat it. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Ickle dorritt Date: 08 Sep 00 - 02:52 PM Correct me if I am wrong ,but isn't Paul brady's wonderful Arthur McBride on the transatlantic sessions CD? |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Liam's Brother Date: 08 Sep 00 - 03:56 PM I think I mentioned in another Mudcat thread that Paul started singing "Arthur McBride" when he lived in New York... about 1973. The Irish Arts Center had a session then at Munk's Park Pub on Park Avenue South. He was always being asked to sing it and, when he did, people would come flying up and down stairs - almost from the other side of town. It's probably not generally known that the variant he sings is from a book of Maine (USA) folk songs. He left New York to become a member of Planxty. I drove him to get some of his things from storage and he told me that was about to happen. A few months later, I flew to Edinburgh where the 5-member Planxty (Paul took Christy's place and Christy had not yet left) was performing. He sang it as a solo piece and the group said, when they first heard his rendition, they just forgot about their earlier version. The blue album was just about to be released at that time. The group had a test pressing and it was played for them backstage. Paul fell in love with "The Lakes of Ponchartrain" right away.
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Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Bruce O. Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:01 PM See 'Arthur' on the Bodley Ballads website (in Mudcat's Links) for early copies of the song (add 'cousin' or 'comrade' from 1st line for faster search) |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: BanjoRay Date: 08 Sep 00 - 05:01 PM I saw Paul Brady with Planxty in Doncaster on that tour when Christy was still in the band. The PA system failed totally in a large working men's club full of people. The entire audience totally kept themselves quiet and the purely acoustic unamplified set went down a storm. Arthur McBride impressed us all, even among a lot of other good stuff. A magic night Ray |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,John Moulden on holiday Date: 09 Sep 00 - 04:39 AM I understood that Mulligan had plans to re-issue this. Perhaps they have and that´s why it´s getting played. This version bears an uncanny resemblance to Carrie Grover´s version as noted by Annie Griggs in "A Heritage of Song" (Bethel Maine, no date) |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Bill Date: 10 Sep 00 - 02:48 PM Thanks Brendy BJ |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 10 Sep 00 - 03:06 PM Brendy, A thousand thanks if you can post the tablature here - I've hunted for the 'Acoustic Guitar' magazine version, but it doesn't appear to be available in the UK. I very much look forward to your transcription, and will hassle you like mad if you don't do it :-) Ed |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 10 Sep 00 - 03:20 PM What I'll do, Ed, Bill, Sean, et al., is to write it out, and post it onto my web-site, and link to it through this thread. I haven't figured out quite how to go about transcribing it; I'm not the best at writing tabs, but I'll certainly do my best to 'explain' what he is doing, and on what frets he is doing it. I'll get the guitar out tomorrow, and spend the day at it, and see how far I get. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 12 Sep 00 - 10:31 PM Yo! How's it hangin'? Well, I thought that I should lessen the waiting time for you all a wee bit, and post something that you could be 'getting on with'. I am assuming that you are all familiar with the tune, or that you have the Irvine/Brady album, so you can fine-tune the phrasing, etc. I only realised yesterday that I don't have my own copy of it in the apartment (I lent it to a friend a few months back - glad I remembered!), so what I've done is to write it as I remember it from the record, somewhere close to the way I play it myself. In the opening bars, for instance, I could not remember whether he used the plectrum to pick out all the notes, or used a combination of plectrum and fingers, like the way I have it annotated. Anyway, you can wrap your heads around this, until I get the rest of the song finished. I wont be getting the album back until next week, but it'll hardly matter much, as the rest of it is fairly straightforward, anyway. Somewhere around Friday. G'luck! B. P.S. If you have any problems loading the page, or whatever, just refresh the thread, or send me a PM. |
Subject: Lyr Add: ARTHUR MC BRIDE AND THE SERGEANT (Brady) From: Brendy Date: 13 Sep 00 - 12:21 AM I had a look in the DigiTrad, and I couldn't find the lyrics of the version that Paul sings. I grabbed these off his website here, but I'll post the lyrics as well. Here we go! ARTHUR MC BRIDE AND THE SERGEANT B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 13 Sep 00 - 02:39 AM Brendy, Thank you so very, very much. I don't have my guitar with me just now, but your transcription looks as though it will be very easy to follow. Your hard work is much appreciated. Thank you. Ed |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: death by whisky Date: 13 Sep 00 - 10:52 AM Believe it or not I picked up tihs song on a tape from the village post office.The tape is titled "Top of the morning",it also includes "The Plians of Kildare",and a couple of other crackers. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: lamarca Date: 13 Sep 00 - 06:31 PM One of my favorites, too...Lisa Null says that Paul Brady got this version of the lyrics from her when she was living in CT. It's in her copy of songs collected from a Maine singer, Carrie Gover (Grover? - help me, Lisa! My spelling of the name is probably wrong), whose parents came from Nova Scotia(?). Carrie set down all the songs she learned from her mother and father; Lisa has a much-loved and worn copy of the collection, which contains many great and unusual versions of traditional songs. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 14 Sep 00 - 02:30 PM Ok Folks. A day earlier than thought, but there you go! You can link to it here, or through the link above. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed Pellow Date: 14 Sep 00 - 03:02 PM Brendy, I think the words are 'you're a complete star' I wish I could shake you by the hand. Thank you again. Ed |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Sean Belt Date: 14 Sep 00 - 03:32 PM Brendy, I just checked out your transcription and I've got to say you're a man to be reckoned with! I don't have my guitar with me at the moment, but just looking at it it seems you've gone far away above and beyond the call of duty on this one. Not only is it easy to read, it's attractive to look at. Many thanks. Next time you're in St. Louis, the first round's on me. - Sean |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Liam's Brother Date: 14 Sep 00 - 05:18 PM Sandy Paton and I alluded to the Maine / Grover origin above but was not aware that he found the book in Lisa Null's library. Lisa has a great library! I had a ramble through it in the late '70s when I was doing the bibliography for "A Bonnie Bunch of Roses." Paul Brady thought a great deal of Lisa. Then, again, we all do.
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Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 15 Sep 00 - 05:25 PM No problem, lads! I'm glad it's all 'working' correctly, and that you're all able to follow my way of explaining things. Indeed Sean! It's been a while (4 years), since I have been in your town. I spent a lot of time arould Soulard during that visit. And I had a few pints in Chuck Berry's place. And I look forward to the next time I'm around those parts (could be towards the end of next year). On that day we shall meet in a 'little' pub I know on the corner of 12th and Russell, and I shall ask our congenial host, John Maguire Esq, for a pint of whatever you're having, and a coffee for me, and we'll duet Arthur. Take it easy, folks. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Sean Belt Date: 16 Sep 00 - 04:38 PM Mmmm. 12th & Russell. McGurk's pub. My home away from home, a place to hear some darned fine music, and the best tavern in St. Louis. - Sean |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: IvanB Date: 16 Sep 00 - 08:03 PM Sean, 'tis a pleasure to hear McGurk's is still going strong and, from the sound of it, as great as ever. We used to get there every time we were in the area when my stepson was posted at Scott AFB. Unfortunately he hasn't been there since 1992, so we've sorely missed the place. Good to hear of it and reminisce about good times had, tho. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Bill Date: 17 Sep 00 - 04:50 PM Many thanks for that Brendy, sorry that I caused you so much trouble, I didn't realise so many people shared my interest in Arthur McB. I've played standard tunings for the past 30 yrs or so and am absolutely thrilled by the idea of the 'new' tunings, DADGAD is another that I have just latched on to. BJ
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Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Mrbisok@aol Date: 17 Sep 00 - 08:18 PM I'm late to this Paul Brady thread, but just have to jump in with this: Paul's "Arthur McBride" is what sucked me into this whole folk thing in 1989. Kathleen Biggins on Fordham U.'s WFUV in NYC (back before she went to New Age Celtic) played it for her Christmas show, I had the tape recorder going, and the rest is my history. In reading all the strands of this thread, I don't recall one negative voice, which is amazing for such an contentious crowd. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Peter Kasin Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:33 AM Is there any difference in engineering/sound quality between the Mulligan release and it's release in the U.S. on the Green Linnet label? There were differences in sound quality between the original British releases of Beatles albums, and the U.S. releases, so it brings this question to mind. I don't know if re-engineering is a common practice. |
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