Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 29 Jul 01 - 06:13 AM P.J. Curtis woulld probably know the answer to that, chanteyranger. I know he was around Mulligan at the time of the recording. I'll refresh this, and maybe he'll see it. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,gerky@cwcom.net Date: 29 Jul 01 - 09:36 PM Acoustic Guitar Magazine is stocked in Tower Records Stores in the uk. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Don F Date: 10 Dec 03 - 06:10 PM I just wandered onto this page, but I'm blown away by you people. I never thought I'd see others that share my interest in Arthur McBride or traditional folk music. Oh, and McGurk's Pub is incredible. Cheers! |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Miken Date: 10 Dec 03 - 08:30 PM Don, join us and hang around. It's free and educatiional and damned entertaining! Membership is free. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: spoons Date: 10 Dec 03 - 09:22 PM I'm a huge fan of Paul Brady and Andy Irvin. I have 20 CD's between the two of them and Planxty. I'm looking for a very rare and early Paul Brady release, his first solo effort, titled "Welcome Here Kind Stranger". Can anyone help? I have "The Lost Liberty Tapes" which has most of the same tunes but I would like to add this rare gem to my collection. Thanks in advance Spoons |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 11 Dec 03 - 03:48 AM I have my own copy of it, Spoons, but it took me a good while to track it down (after mislaying it moving house a few times, etc). The only thing I would recommend is to keep your eye out for it. Try the obvious places, of course; Amazon, etc., but outside of that, I wouldn't have a notion where you might get it. Gems tend to get dug up; and often, when you don't expect them! I put the tablature up on this site, for the finish up... "Oh, Me and my cousin, one Arthur McBride... B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Wolfgang Date: 11 Dec 03 - 11:18 AM Spoons, as Brendy I have a copy of it but I don't sell. However, if you are looking just for a tape of it I could help you. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Ron Davies Date: 12 Dec 03 - 12:22 AM I have a story about Paul Brady's "Arthur McBride" also. When I was in Germany in 1974 I began my taping addiction, which has steadily worsened ever since. I'll never forget stumbling across a live concert with exactly this version of" Arthur McBride" on German radio. I suspect strongly it was Paul Brady singing. Also on the program were wonderful live versions of "As I Roved Out" and "Kitty Lie Over close to the Wall" and the same person who did Arthur McBride sang an incredibly exciting version of "Jolly Beggarman". I only caught the end of the concert--got these 4 songs----didn't even get the announcement as to who it was. As an impecunious foreigner I just tried to pack as much music as I could onto each tape, particularly German, French, and Italian songs. Anyway, I started immediately hunting for an Irish pub. Found one in Frankfurt too--I was in Hanau--though it was called Zum schwarzen Ritter (At the Sign of the Black Knight) it was an Irish pub. So from then on when I wasn't working at the Public Affairs office---among other things trying to keep people from stealing the "l " in the Public Affairs sign----), I'd be looking for Hannes Wader, Reinhard Mey, Ulrich Roski or other Liedermacher songs, or I'd be haunting Zum schwarzen Ritter. I remember wishing I was Irish so I could sing Arthur McBride convincingly--I sang it to myself anyway. So there I was, an American soldier wandering around Frankfurt, singing an Irish anti-recruiting song. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Doug Date: 25 Apr 04 - 08:23 AM Can anyone give me easy chords to Arthur McBride i want to learn it its a ledgend song! Plus i've the words to Paddy's green shamrock shore another classic but i need the chords to it so i hope someone can help? |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Bard Date: 25 Apr 04 - 12:09 PM It used to be on Brendy's website, which is herehttp://www.brendanmckeever.com/, I think. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Ed. Date: 25 Apr 04 - 12:29 PM See Paul Brady's site |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Julie B Date: 25 Apr 04 - 07:27 PM I too love this song and Paul Brady's version of it. I discovered it when a friend put it on a cassette tape compilation of his favourite folk music for me. I played it in the car until the tape wore out! No matter how many times I listened it still sounded fresh. Enjoyed singing it too. Julie |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 26 Apr 04 - 03:43 AM I've just discovered this thread and haven't read every posting but what amazes me is that, until recently, so many people were unaware of Brady's "McBride". Surely - in the UK at least - this is one of the most revered and famous recordings of the folk revival! |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: George Papavgeris Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:10 AM Indeed, Tunesmith. I first heard Paul's version sometime in the eighties, from an album he had made with Andy Irvine. It remains firmly in my top 10 English language traditional songs. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Andrew Date: 26 Apr 04 - 04:53 PM Im another great fan of this version and used to play open tuned in E Ab B e Ab E. Thank heavens Ive kept the Tablature as I fear I would not remember otherwise. Was a real challenge when in the middle of a set but always one of my favourites. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,steve mann Date: 21 May 04 - 02:03 PM Hi, just stumbled on the site. For those who don't know it, I thoroughly recommend Martin Carthy's arrangement of this tremendous song on his Prince Heathen disc; I arranged it for guitar many years ago off a Swarbrick tape I had; amazed to hear a fiddler sawing away at it in the back room of a music ship in Newcastle, England recently! By the way, a snippet of a WW1 recruiting song sung by Terry Woods on the Pogues If I should fall from grace with god album probably has its roots in Arthur.. the sentiment is the same for sure. Now, I must search out a copy of this Paul Brady guy's album! |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST Date: 27 Jun 04 - 05:56 AM Probably this is too late for the poster trying to track down WELCOME HERE KIND STRANGER, but thought I'd mention that Ebay is also a great place to check for deleted gems, and in fact a search there today under "Paul Brady" shows a copy (LP, think) available. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Big Al Whittle Date: 27 Jun 04 - 06:32 AM Perhaps its also worth mentioning Rosie Hardman's lovely song the man who sang Arthur Macbride - a homage to Andy and the rest of Planxty - I think it was on the Jerseyburger album. Rosie's song raised the profile of this song and led to its pre-eminence. In the seventies Planxty had gone on to bigger things, most of them outside England, but Rosie was touring the folk clubs almost continuously. On the album and in her set were two homage songs, louisiana about martin simpson and this other one about arthur macbride. Even those of us who had little time for Irish folk music (remember this was at the height of 'the troubles' with bombs going off regularly in English towns) we had this fantastic song brought to our attention by Rosie. This was the before the folk revival had grown so moribund that it needed an acoustic revival. Rosie was one of the few folk artists whose name could fill any club Lest we forget |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Rosie Hardman Date: 10 Aug 04 - 10:29 AM Yep - I wrote the song after watching Paul sing this song at a folk festival in Redcar in the 70s. It was a stunning performance and I wrote 'The Man Who Sang Arthur McBride' after hearing it.... though it's not JUST about the performance but also a special relationship I had with someone at the time. If anyone would like the words, I could arrange to put these in the Songbook on my site - please just write to me - my email address is on my website at rosiehardman.com in the Contact Me section - just click on the little envelope. :) Rosie Hardman |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: burntstump Date: 10 Aug 04 - 11:20 AM How great to have Rosie chatting about things,you never know one day we may persuade her to actualy sing them again in concert. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,RE; Singing Again Date: 10 Aug 04 - 11:29 AM Ermmmmmmmmmmm no - sorry pal. Unfortunately the arthritis means I can neither stand for long, nor play the guitar.... nice to know I'm thought about though... ;) |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Murray MacLeod Date: 11 Aug 04 - 04:17 AM I see from Brendy's post above that he reckons Paul Brady uses an Open G tuning . That would probably (though not necessarily) mean that he sings this in G. Does he really sing this in G ? Seems a hell of a high key to sing Arthur McBride in ... Perhaps someone who has the CD could verify the actual key ? Like Rosie, I too have a vivid memory of Paul Brady being absolutely spellbinding, at Cambridge Festival in 1976, although it is "The Lakes of Pontchartrain" that sticks in my mind. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,sues Date: 31 Aug 04 - 05:13 AM I have come to this song very recently and discovered you all here since searching on 'Arthur McBride'!! I love Paul Brady's version of this song (way better than Dylan's) BUT can anyone tell me its origins? Who wrote it, etc? Thanks and happy listening :) Sue |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Andrew Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:25 AM I don't know if Paul Brady sang it in G but I do know that he did sing it in 'a hell of a high key' I used to sing it in open very strange... which I think was C ish and I found that too high. Paul Brady seemed about an Octave above where I pitched it ! Repeating what many have said it must rank as one of my favourites ever. . Andrew |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: PoppaGator Date: 31 Aug 04 - 03:45 PM Paul Brady's website , referenced above by Ed on 25 Apr 04 at 12:29 PM, provides tabs for only two songs: "Arthur McBride" and "Lakes of Pontchartrain." I recently searched out and found the tab for "Lakes," which is in open D tuning with the capo at the 3rd fret (putting the song in the key of F, right?). There's another version of tablature for that song, found in many locations all over the web, which is for open G tuning. Needless to say, the open D version on Brady's site seems to be the real thing. Since the Brady website mentions a capo position for the one song but not for the other, he *probably* plays "Arthur McBride" in the key of G (i.e., open G tuning, no capo). Mudcatter Brendy's website provides some beautiful-looking tabs. (The two or three oldest links that appear earliest in this thread are outdated, but check out the most recent link to his site). I just got a look at his "McBride" tablature while lurking at work, so I haven't had a chance to try reading/playing them -- wonder how it compares to Brady's own posted tabs? |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,guest Russel sun Date: 19 Sep 04 - 10:34 AM dear paul I am looking for the guitar tabs of the songs of Ani defranco . do you have any good ideas to tell me ? thanks |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: shepherdlass Date: 19 Sep 04 - 01:43 PM There's another mention of this in Tim Wood's lovely song, "Freeman" - about giving an Irish hitch-hiker a lift. "Oh but he loved to hear old Brady sing, he knew all the words to Arthur McBride, and when I put it on my stereo, The man broke right down and cried". The combination of Brady's magical tonsils, great guitar work and that tune really does bring tears to the eyes. Glad to hear so many other people love it too. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Murray MacLeod Date: 19 Sep 04 - 08:30 PM There are very few male singers who can hit a high G, (Paul Brady may welll be one of them) and if you were to sing Arthur McBride in G you would have to be able to hit a high G. Open D (capoed or not) seems to me to be a much more sensible option ... |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,nickr90 Date: 20 Sep 04 - 01:44 PM For an interesting sidebar see Joseph O'Connor's novel 'Star of the Sea' for an apochrypal or fictional(I know that's spelt wrong)origin of the song |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Brendy Date: 20 Sep 04 - 05:20 PM "There are very few male singers who can hit a high G..." True, but if you cant, you can always transpose the G tuning, into F, or if (like me) you use wire ropes for strings, even down to E. I can hit the high Gs in 'Arthur' without much problem, but if I think it might be a bit of a strain the odd time, I take the tuning down to F. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Brendy Date: 21 Sep 04 - 10:56 PM "I see from Brendy's post above that he reckons Paul Brady uses an Open G tuning.... Perhaps someone who has the CD could verify the actual key ?" Mmmmmmmm..... The Blue Clicky, Hyperlinky Thing From Ed's post - 25 Apr 04 - 12:29 Pm (Top-left-hand corner of the score.... just a little to the right of the word 'Tuning') "I just got a look at his (my) "McBride" tablature while lurking at work, so I haven't had a chance to try reading/playing them -- wonder how it compares to Brady's own posted tabs" Hi PoppaGator, and thanks for the kind words The Tabs on Paul's site cover the intro and the first verse (as do mine). The only other thing that I did, which Andrew DuBrock didn't, was to tab the D(F#) in Verse 4, ("If you do you'll be flogged in the morning") and the 2 D7ths in Verses 5 & 7 B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Brendy Date: 22 Sep 04 - 02:30 AM ... Oh, and he tabbed the coda at the very end. B. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Murray MacLeod Date: 22 Sep 04 - 08:58 AM Brendy, thanks for drawing my attention to that link. When I asked for someone who had the CD to confirm that Brady sang Arthur McBride in G, I was mindful of the fact that he has tabbed Lakes of Pontchartrain in Open D, capoed up 3, which would mean he is singing in F, but I know for a fact that he sings it in E (on the live performance on the Liberty Tapes, at any rate. I just thought it was possible that for Arthur McBride he might use the Open G tuning, maybe tuned down a half-step. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Murray MacLeod Date: 22 Sep 04 - 09:02 AM Oops, ignore that last post. I just remembered that when I listened to Lakes of Pontchartrain, I had my guitar tuned up a half-tone. He sings it in F, right enough. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: PoppaGator Date: 22 Sep 04 - 11:33 AM I'm having trouble enough trying to sing the high notes in "Pontchartrain" in D (open D, no capo), let alone three or four half-steps higher! Brady must have quite a vocal range, indeed. Hey Brendy, hello back at ya. I'm so thankful to folks like you who can listen to a piece and transcribe it into tablature. Although I can read tabs, there's no way I could learn most arrangements directly just by listening myself. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Alex Date: 20 Nov 04 - 07:48 AM Although i cannot contribute anything in tabs or chords i would just like to say the Arthur Mcbride is a fine song and Paul Brady is a might fine singer and guitarist. I shall take it upon my self to learn this song with the help of all you kind people that have added chords and tuning tips. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: PoppaGator Date: 20 Nov 04 - 12:22 PM Glad to see this discussion reappear. Although I'm often guilty of trying to "get the last world" in real life, here on this forum I *hate* to post the final message to a thread! But here I am, risking it again... I've only recently (last couple of years) become interested in Irish folk music, and have little opportunity to hear much of it here in New Orleans. (Of course, we have plenty of other great music hereabouts to keep us all busily listening and, hence, distracted.) Because we're right on the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain, one song that is often heard from local and touring Irish and Celtoid acts is, of course, "Lakes of Pontchartrain," and my efforts to learn *that* song led me to discover Paul Brady and, consequently, to learn about "Arthur McBride." Last month, I rented a DVD video, "Out of Ireland: From a Whisper to a Scream," a nice thorough survey course on a wide range of recorded music to come out of Ireland since the mid-60s, including rock and pop as well as plenty of traditional/revival music. That is, Van The Man, Phil Lynott, Rory Gallagher, Geldof, U2, Sinead, etc., but also plenty of Donal Lunny and Christy Moore (each in the context of several different groups), and of course Paul Brady. Brady appears at fairly great length as an interview subject -- in a "speaking role" -- but is also heard performing. You get to hear about 3/4 of the first verse of "Arthur," live and solo in the context of an interview. Very nice. I'd recommend the film highly, especially for Americans (Irish-Americans) like me, or anyone not already thoroughly familiar with the scene and the artists in question. Because Irish musicians had such difficulty getting "out" and breaking into the UK and international markets, they had their own local culture which remained unknown to those of us across the ocean (if not *quite* so unknown to Britain). To me, it was like a peek into life on another planet or some parallel universe, where disaffected kids left home in the mid-60s, not for San Francisco or London, but for "swingin' Dublin"; where the reigning guitar-hero power-trio was not Cream but Taste; where the big folk music revival came after "rock n roll" became "rock," not before; etc. Fascinating! My wife loved this rental DVD even more than I, and was very reluctant to return it. Fortunately, we got it from www.netflix.com, where there are no late fees. You pay a flat monthly $18 to rent out 3 DVDs at a time; the faster you view and return the videos, the more different films you get for your money, but you can keep any one of them as long as you wish. I think we kept it three weeks and played it, who knows, 30 or 40 times (sometimes just in the background, of course), until we both had most of the narration memorized, and finally mailed it back about a week ago. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 10 Nov 06 - 09:43 AM some of you may remember Sam Hinton, he's still performing out in California, I think, though recorded in the fifties and then again much later. He has Arthur McBride on his "The Real McCoy, Irish Folk SOngs Selected and Sung by Sam Hinton", from 1957. He doesn't credit his source, from what I remember, but I'll look at the album this evening to make sure. Obviously the guitar arrangement of Paul Brady's is unique and extraordinary, Sam's much simpler, but lyrics and melody the same, tempo a bit more metronomic on Sam's recording. I doubt very much that Paul ever heard this recording, but I would say it's the earliest recording of the song I have come across, and it was not unknown for all those years, just needed Paul's genius to transform it into a work of art. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:15 PM proberly the best version ,paul is by far the best the folk scean has seen in years . |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: bill kennedy Date: 01 Feb 07 - 03:14 PM Paul's touring the East Coast of the US this February, BTW your chances to hear him live: 08/02/07 Cambridge, MA Sanders Theatre, Harvard 09/02/07 Albany,NY The Egg 10/02/07 Fall River MA Narrows Center for the Arts 11/02/07 Northampton MA The Iron Horse 13/02/07 Hanover NH (double bill with Altan) Dartmouth University 14/02/07 Newmarket NH The Stone Church 16/02/07 Middletown CT Wesleyan College 17/02/07 New York City B.B.King Club 20/02/07 Carrboro NC Carrboro Arts Center |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Alan Surtees - Shrewsbury Folk Festival Date: 02 May 07 - 11:33 AM And if you want to see Paul this August (2007) in England, he will be performing at the Shrewsbury Folk Festival. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Big Al Whittle Date: 02 May 07 - 12:14 PM there is good instructional dvd on homespun where Paul goes through all the moves on this song and several others. I think he's starting to look a bit like Jerry Springer. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 02 May 07 - 01:06 PM Go to Paul Brady's web sute. He has Arthur McBride Tabbed out in his odd tuning. Then go to YouTube and watch him play it. Don |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 02 May 07 - 04:21 PM He also has recordings, Arthur McBride among them, on emusic.com |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Declan Date: 03 May 07 - 02:50 AM PoopaGator, Most of that stuff on the video would have happened in the early seventies rather than the 60s, but it has often been said that the 60's didn't happen in Ireland until the 70s. I was around the tail end of that scene in Dublin from about 1978 onwards. (I was too young for pubs (legally at least) before then) and it was indeed a magical time. I was there in time for the (first) Planxty reunion in early '79 which was brilliant. I first saw Planxty (original line up) when they came to play a gig in our school in around 1973. I was already listening to a bit of Irish music, but this was definitely a life changing moment. A word of warning for those considering going to see Paul now, that he has considerably changed his musical direction since those days. Still good but very different. I think he still performs Arthur in his set from time to time. There was a time when he was so fed up of being pestered to sing the song all through his set that he refused to sing it at all for quite a long time. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Big Al Whittle Date: 03 May 07 - 05:28 AM The video (Echoes and Extracts) with all the rock stuff on is fascinating - showing Paul's develpoment. Its strange to reflect on the different directions various /singersongwriters took from the 70's. Paul going rather in the direction of Van Morrison. Christy sticking with folk but expanding the horizons - becoming the Irish Pete Seeger. Johnny MacEvoy throwing in his lot with the Country and Irish scene. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: PoppaGator Date: 03 May 07 - 12:21 PM Declan, The DVD "Out of Ireland: From a Whisper to a Scream" has footage from every decade since the 50s, or maybe even the 40s, but I understand what you mean about "the 60s not happening until the 70s" in Ireland. Even in much of America, between the east and west coasts, many of us felt that our local communities were a couple of years behind the times, if not a full decade. Some of the material in the video, such Van Morrison as a member of Them and also at the time of such early solo efforts as "Astral Weeks," really does predate 1970. WLD, I can't find an earlier reference in this thread to a video called "Echoes and Extracts," but I'll try to look it up and, if readily available, watch it. (Perhaps in deference to Brady's version of this lyric, I should address you as "LWD" [;^)].) ........... Incidentally, since the last time this thread popped up, we bought a copy of "Whisper to a Scream." And we very rarely buy DVDs ~ never movies (which rarely merit re-watching) and only rarely music. Well, we do own "The Last Waltz," which came out as a theatrical film, but it's a movie of a concert... |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,cmt49 Date: 04 May 07 - 11:22 AM I play a version of Arthur McBride in DADGAD. Works very well, and saves having to reach the notes only Brady can. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: Big Al Whittle Date: 04 May 07 - 01:48 PM You don't need to play the way Brady does - he is a plectrum based guitarist - and his approach to guitar playing is very similar to the 'church picking' style of rambling Jack Eliot. Not very popular in England - where we tend to be finger pickers. It calls for a very stiff plectrum and a delicacy and flexiblity of wrist movement. another consequence of his devotion to the pick is that he segues into a style of guitar playing I have only seen rock players use - where several strings are muted to give a percussive effect. Sometimes he uses a the sixth string tuned down to C, with the rest like a normal Spanish G GBDGBD> However the actual notes are mostly down the shallow end. |
Subject: RE: Paul Brady's version of Arthur McBride From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 04 May 07 - 11:42 PM http://www.paulbrady.com/tablature/am.asp Here is the address to the TAB posted on Paul Bray's site for "Arthur Mc Bride." It covers tuning which I believe is not DADGAD. My memory says it is similar but maybe D A D F# A D or the like. Don |
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