Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken

Subject: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Charcloth
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 09:54 PM

hello folks does any one have a bagpipe version of the tune Morning has broken.I am a poor piper but I ain't quite sure where to find pipe tunes with all the grace notes

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Morning has broken
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 10:18 PM

That's one of my favorites - on the tin whistle or my open-holed wooden flute in low "G". It has been played by request on several Easter Sonrise Services of my local Baptist Church. I wish I could help you on the pipes; I gave up on 'em when I found out how much a good set costs and how much my family hated them! I play by ear and "fake" the doublings and gracenotes - the audience don't seem to mind all that much. There are several (at least) piping sites out there, and I would be surprised if you can't come up with a good score in the course of an evening. You might try: http://www.celticmusic.com/cgi-localbin/tunes.pl

http://www3.atsbank.com/~tarider/tullochgorm/SCOT1.HTM# http://www.ceolas.org/ceolas.html

http://www.pgonline.com/georgemusic/

http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=celttrad;list

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From:
Date: 09 Aug 00 - 11:00 PM

Here are some places to get Bagpipe Tunes, in various formats:

Bagpipe Tunes
Bagpipe MIDI's
Uilleann Bagpipe MIDI Page
Pipe scores on the Net

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Charcloth
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 08:54 AM

thanks Hey George I ordered those Shuttle pipes,never heard from your friend though

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From:
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 11:04 PM

I suspect that Barry is on vacation with his family. They're probably up in Cape Breton.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 02:14 AM

I don't play them, but I love them (all kinds) and I guess I just always thought that like other instruments, you learn the tune "straight" first, ie, basic notes, then add your own ornaments. I do know, tho, that pipes cannot make some notes. I just thought pipers faked around those notes. Am I wrong? (I am not talking Pibroch competitions here, those are written in Stone, right?) Isn't it a matter of getting it in the correct key? Corrections, please........

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Charcloth
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 12:09 AM

Sorcha, When I first started trying to learn the pipes I thought as you but, I soon found out that that wasn't so. In Some pipe schools you spend all your time in the beginning learning the various doublings & such. There are even hard core folks who say you have to play all the grace notes or you are just a fake piper. I don't clame to be anything but a begining piper but I play a lot of other instruments compently at the very least so this line of thought was & is foreign to me. But you are right there are only nine notes to work with so the doublings do often make up for the lack of notes

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 12:34 AM

Thanks, Charc. Isn't there a lot of "hidebound" tradition in piping also? Such as different "Schools" and each does it their own way, etc? Meaning that the 42nd's version is different from the Dysart's and stuff? And, is there REALLY a reason pipers always walk when they play (other than the old joke)? I have even seen them walk during funeral services, just back and forth in front of the congregation.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Charcloth
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 10:54 AM

I don't know about other pipers but I tend to step around a bit cause it is hard to play the pipes sitting down unless they are bellows blown like the Irish pipes or small pipes. As for the different "schools of thought" I guess its like churches with the mindset, "unless you are a part of our elete group you are wrong" but then you see that in almost everything from universitys to martial arts

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 04:29 PM

Charcloth, somebody told me that pipers walk around in an effort to get away from the music.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 15 Aug 00 - 01:04 AM

When I learn a new song on the piano, I find it is very hard to master the tune and then add the grace notes. It is widely agreed that it is better to work on them from the start. That way your fingers are memorizing moves which will have to be changed. It sounds like it's the same for the pipes.

As for the "folks who say you have to play all the grace notes or you are just a fake piper," that sounds like a jealous, elitist put-down. Fake piper, indeed! We play music for beauty and enjoyment. Can there be fake beauty and enjoyment?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: pipe version of Morning has broken
From: GUEST,charcloth
Date: 15 Aug 00 - 07:39 AM

I learning most instruments even in classical music circles the tunes are usualy simplified to help the beginning student get a hold on the instrument but for some reason this approach is not the way in piping. Which I think causes a lot of frustration for the beginner. Now with the pipes there are some things you can't do, you can't raise & lower the volume, you can't put silent pauses during the piece & a few other factors most instruments take for granted, so you have to be able to do some of the doublings from the start I just don't think you have to make them your main focus for a beginner. I think there is still room to simplify the tunes so a beginner can be "making music" instead of just notes