Subject: what's your favorite hot dog? From: GUEST,mean mr. mustard Date: 23 Sep 00 - 03:40 PM what's your favorite hot dog? i like oscar meyer's because they're always fresh. but are they fresher because more people eat them? or do more people eat them because they're fresher? |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: M.Ted Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:20 PM I like the Pennsylvania Dutch hot dogs that the you can buy from the meat stand at the Kutztown Renninger's Market-- |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Benjamin Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:44 PM Fletchers are the best I've had! |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: DougR Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:49 PM There is this little place in Beckley, West Virginia ... DougR |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:56 PM MTed ... Kutztown! I used to go up every July for the Folk Festival, when I lived in D.C. Apple butter, cheese, real funnell cake, Lebanon Bologna, dried corn. Geesh, it's makin' me hungry. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mbo Date: 23 Sep 00 - 07:18 PM Hey folks! The Richards, my German-descended Pennsylvania coalminer relatives on my father's side, are from Kutztown. So if yer up there looking for hotdogs, and see someone named Richards, chances are they're related to me! BTW my favorite are Oscar Meyer beef franks, barbequed. --Matt Richards |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 07:28 PM Mine gotta be Hebrew National or Ballpark Beef ... |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: M.Ted Date: 23 Sep 00 - 08:22 PM I used to live about twenty or so minutes from there--keep in mind here that we're talking about the deli type wieners, that they make themselves--there was plenty of other good stuff too, sausages, Lebanon bologna, smoked pork chops. And pies--but I must confess I never cared for the Shoo Fly Pie-- Most people that don't live there don't know how good that Dutch Country food is--and cheap, too |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: MarkS Date: 23 Sep 00 - 08:28 PM No No No. The absolute, hands down wiener is in Northeast PA, in the Allentown area. If you are here find a Yoccos. Get two or three "all the way" with the mustard, chopped onions, and the chili sauce. You will be in hot dog heaven and you will never be the same. MarkS |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 08:40 PM MTed ... which is it you don't like: DRY BOTTOM Shoo-Fly-Pie or WET BOTTOM Shoo-Fly-Pie? If I have my druthers, I prefer the wet bottom variety. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Sep 00 - 08:58 PM This is amazing, when I think of a hot dog, I think of some pretty tastless limp sausage in a bun with fried onions and lots of tomato sauce and mustard to give it some taste (there is none in the sausage and they all the same wherever you go). Sounds like I am missing out on something here. Jon |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:06 PM My Pug "Punchinella" in the mid afternoon heat. No kidding... |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:12 PM No, Jon, you're describing my last boyfriend. We're talking about real meat, here. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: tar_heel Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:22 PM what does this have to do with MUDCAT CAFE????? |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Tinker Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:30 PM Take it from a kid. From the age of three, countless people have tried to trick my now 6 year old into eating their favorite hotdog. He can usually spot an imitation by sight and It never takes more than one bite. The original?.....Oscar Myer Beef.... Oh, if I were an oscar myer weiner.... That is what I truely want to be... Cause if I were an Oscar Myer Weiner Everyone would be in love with me Of course it's the best it has a song Tinker |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:31 PM Tar Heel ... the same thing that your posts back and forth with SandyToes ... nothing. I didn't complain about your's, so please do me the same courtesy. And, besides, I knew darn well that favorite hot dogs had nothing to do with folk music, didn't you? But you still had to take a peek. It's Saturday and it's been a very heavy week on the mudcat and a little lighthearted banter won't hurt. BTW ... I like your new mudcat name ... I'll be moving to the Tar Heel State in the Spring/early Summer. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Neophyte Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:41 PM Well I use to love hot dogs, especially the big knuckers. Something about the smell of a hot dog stand I find so tempting. Now a days I stick to tofu hot dogs. They are much gentler on the planet and I don't mind thinking about what they are made of. Bonnie |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mbo Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:41 PM You ARE, Jen? Here in the east, by any chance? Chuck, ol' pal, look..."Mudcat CAFE". You have to serve SOMETHING at a cafe! And what better than hotdogs! --Matt (hotdog junkie) |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mudjack Date: 23 Sep 00 - 09:46 PM A Costco dog and a medium drink for $1.50. Mudjack |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 10:14 PM Matthew ... Probably the Raleigh/Durham area because of job transfer. But, have no fear, I'm a road warrior and will travel the state, and besides I have a favorite cousin in Wilmington, and lots of other up and down the NC coast. When I get settled, we'll try to have a gathering of some sort. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Lepus Rex Date: 23 Sep 00 - 11:37 PM I used to love to eat hot dogs at baseball games. Then my dad ruined it by telling me this story: There was some labour benefit he was volunteering for years ago, at the H.H.H. Metrodome, and he took a job in the kitchen for the day. As my dad was throwing away unused hotdogs, on buns, the head hot dog guy walks up, and says 'Whoa, what're you doin'?! Those are good hotdogs!' He then proceded to take a dog out of the trash, made an 'ok' sign with his hand, stuck the end of the sausage part in the small 'ok' hole, and pulled the hotdog through it, scraping the bun away. He then threw the meat into a bin of fresh hotdogs. My dad left in disgust, and I've never been back. Yup. Kramarczuk's in SE Minneapolis has kick-ass sausage, and good hotdogs, too. :) ---Lepus Rex |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Sep 00 - 12:33 AM I guess my favourite would be those weiners they cook at the Orillia Farmer's Market on Saturday morning. I missed it today, cos I got up too late for it. They're excellent Oktoberfest style sausages, grilled for ya right there on the spot. And then there's Valdy. He's a black and tan dachshund, a true gentleman of leisure who has mastered the art of doing absolutely nothing to such perfection that he has almost become a sort of stationary art object...except when a stranger arrives. He's terrified of strangers, and launches into a lengthy barking fit when he detects their approach. I guess he is my favourite hotdog. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeremiah McCaw Date: 24 Sep 00 - 12:46 AM Lessee . . . what you buy in a grocery store - Blue Jays Ballpark Franks. Do not grill them. Do not BBQ them. Steam them. It is the only way to go. A short session on the BBQ after maybe for the smokiness and grill marks, but ONLY as an afterthought.. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: CarolC Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:21 AM Tofu Pups with mustard, ketchup and sweet relish. On whole wheat. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Ebbie Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:35 AM In Jennings Lodge, outside Portland Oregon, in a small stand, are the best dogs I've ever eaten. Some kind of yellow sauce on them- not mustard, but something- with chopped onions... Bet you can't eat just one! Ebbie |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: tradsteve Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:39 AM Strictly tofu doggies for me. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Peter Kasin Date: 24 Sep 00 - 02:55 AM Didn't Nathan kick Oscar Mayer's butt? |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Kara Date: 24 Sep 00 - 06:22 AM I'm a vegeterian Kara
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: dwditty Date: 24 Sep 00 - 06:59 AM Let's see, theres 'Spaw, Fielding, Mbo... My favorite, though, is the Hummels Big Bite. At least it was until I was playng golf one day in a foursome with Eric Hummel. He had a bandaids on three fingers of his left hand. When one of the guys asked him what happended, he replied, "Oh, we put a little Hummel in everything we make." dw |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Neophyte Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:03 AM Oh, good to hear we have some tofu dog lovers here. Maybe some of you veggie lovers would be interested in my website. The Veggie Ladie Bonnie Bonnie, you forgot closing quotation marks. I fixed it, because it can cause the thread to lockup for Netscape users. --JoeClone
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Neophyte Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:07 AM Not sure what happened there but I will try it again, if my HTML skills don't work, here is the site...... http://home.the-wire.com/~bkumer/ Click here Hope that works Bonnie |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:44 AM If you're ever passing through Westminster, Maryland, drive down Main Street and stop at Harry's. He uses Esskay weiners and puts his own special Coney-Island type sauce on them. Yep, just put the sauce, mustard, ketchup and onions on and you have eatin' pleasure. Esskay is a Baltimore brand made by the Schluderberg and Kurdel Company ("S. K.", get it?). The dogs are also sold in stores and they grill well, but you can't beat Harry's. We call 'em "death dogs" around here due to the heartburn they allegedly invoke. Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: tar_heel Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:05 AM MOONJEN..exactly my point!!everybody made a BIG deal that my sandytoes had nothing to do with mudcat.........but,it was all right for THEM to bitch about it!!! |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: tar_heel Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:07 AM BY THE WAY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i love hot dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeri Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:48 AM Schultz makes hot dogs around here that have skins. I never had them before coming to New England. They're best grilled so the skin snaps a bit when bitten into.
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: bbelle Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:50 AM Jeri ... that's okay. Those are probably the only words that most of us know. I personally can sing the first two lines of every (almost) song or jingle ever written. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:38 AM On the really good side, I'd have to go with Nathan's hands down. But ya' know, hot dogs are such basically schlock food to begin with, not to mention their allowable 2% content of floor sweepings, hair, and rat excrement, that the "good" concept for me somehow translates into BAD. I can buy some Ball Parks, great buns, coney sauce, kraut, slaw, relish......the works right?....and somehow I keep going back to those things that they sell at Ohio State football games. The indeterminate frank is possibly cooked and then thrown into an oversize bun, wrapped in a wax paper type stuff (you know the stuff...you try to wipe off the mustard with it and end up being covered in mustard flavored Coppertone Quick Tan). This "thing" is then stacked in a steam drawer until needed for sale. I think they make all of these up at the beginning of the season and keep them hot and soggy right through the Michigan game. You buy one or two and walk over to the condiment table (what a mess those are....a whole other thread) where you try to separate the paper, bun, and frank, so you can apply some of that pale tan mustard of undetermined parentage. NOW THAT'S A DOG!!!! Spaw |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Neophyte Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:49 AM You know Catspaw, I can just see you, Cleigh and The Boys being served at a hot dog stand. Very funny picture in my mind. Why I can even see you with one of those Nathan's baseball caps on selling the weiners. Thats an even funnier image in my mind. BB |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:54 AM Well BonnAmi, ther's nothing like a good ball game to bring out the junk food addict in me. Like the Budweiser commercial says, there's nothing like being at a ballpark on a hot summer's day. sitting on those hard seats and crunching your nuts or being right there behind home plate rubbing mustard on your wiener. Spaw |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: tar_heel Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:13 PM OK>>>MBO!!!!6 DOGS ALL THE WAY.........and don't forget the ONIONS,LOTS OF ONIONS!!!uh...sandytoes prefers hers with out onions,but lots of CHILLI!!! |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Metchosin Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:26 PM Oh Boy....Galloping Goose wins hands down for me, especially with Red Onion Relish. Used to like the others, but once tried, you become a convert. You can try a virtual bite here |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Metchosin Date: 24 Sep 00 - 02:09 PM And make sure you check out the Sausage Queen here |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 24 Sep 00 - 02:55 PM My favorite hot dog is the veggie dog that I just had in a dream at the Mudcat Tavern. I'm a vegetarian as well, but I must be missing something when it comes to vegetarian hot dogs. I've had all sorts of seitan prducts that were delicious, including a convincing pepperoni roll and mock chicken teriyaki. I've made some delicious meals that people raved over until I told them it was tofu and then had the say "I didn't like that". I like Boca-Burgers and Harvest Burgers (especially the Italian style variety), but somehow, Veggie dogs just never did it for me. If anybody can recommend a good tofu dog, I'd appreciate it. Slán, Rich |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Neophyte Date: 24 Sep 00 - 03:43 PM Honestly Rich, I think you just have to pretent they are delicious. I've tried them all and have come to the conclusions that veggie dog food science has much to explore. BB |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 24 Sep 00 - 04:03 PM Thaks, Bonnie, I'll try. Rich |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Dulci46 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 04:13 PM My favorite was the hot dogs we would get at a place called Lum's. Best hot dog anywhere, steamed in beer, topped with mustard, coney sauce, relish, onions. See what you all went and did, got me hungry for something I can no longer get. They done left town :-( |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Bernard Date: 24 Sep 00 - 05:22 PM
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mbo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 05:52 PM I once ate a veggie dog. It made me ill. The skin was all rubbery, and had these bizarre green bits in it, not to mention and noxious smell. Gie tae me my bubba-q'ed beef HD's anyday! |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jon Freeman Date: 24 Sep 00 - 05:55 PM Dulci, what is coney sauce? spaw, sounds like I'd feel at home with your hot dogs! Jon |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Peter Kasin Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:06 PM Spaw, I used to rub mustard on my weiner at the ballpark, but they through me out. How do you get away with it? |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:21 PM Well first I just sit there crunching my nuts and I guess they take pity on me. Dulci....Lum's did have some decent dogs. I don't know how far out of the Ohio/Indiana territory they got, do you? Does anyone remember "Wiener King?" It was a hot dog version of "Burger King." They had a 1/4 pound hot dog on a sesame seed hot dog bun. Spaw |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:58 PM Doesn't anyone else have a dachshund? |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: CarolC Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:08 PM Rich(etc.) "Tofu Pups" are pretty good but you have to boil them or the skin gets pretty tough. And the more condiments, the better. Sometimes I just eat them cold out of the package when I'm in a hurry. It's a good source of quick protien, and they're not bad that way. Also "Not Dogs" are pretty good. They're less chewey than Tofu Pups, so you have to "nuke" them (microwave) or put them in a toaster oven or something to have a good skin on them. Again, the trick is lots of condiments. I stay away from all Morningstar Farms products. Too much junk in them. Carol |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Dulci46 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:42 PM Jon, Coney Sauce is made of hamburger, spices, tomatoe sauce. Kinda like a sloppy joe. Catspaw, don't know what happened to Lums are where they went but sure do wish they would come back. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: WyoWoman Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:04 PM A Chicago dog with-the-works at the Chicago Dog stand in Santa Fe, N.M. May be the only adobe brick hot dog stand you'll ever see. Big, juicy beef wursts that crunch when you bite into 'em, sauerkraut, cucumbers, sport peppers, spicy mustard, and some sort of seasoned salt that has celery in it, I think. Good buns that stay firm when moist. Mmmm. Ambrosia. ww |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeri Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:10 PM Jon, my mom (or maybe it was dad) made Coney sauce sometimes. I always thought it was weird to put ground cow parts on a sausage-like thing made from pig parts, but what the heck...
Here's a crockpot recipe, - I lied. Four more here. Enjoy!
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:12 AM Thanks Jeri, seems like a lot of meat to go into a sauce. I love all these food ideas that I don't know of though - shame I'm such a lazy cook or I would be trying some. Hotdogs make me think of beefburgers (or hamburgers - why ham when it's made of beef? ;)). When my brother and family were visiting me, they made their own for the BBQ - Kath used a lot of corriander in them - I loved them anyone else tried anything similar. Jon |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:13 AM George Carlin did a bit one time about what if hot dogs were advertised like cigarettes. "Low tar, low nicotine. Yes we have 30% less roach droppings than the leading brand" Rich |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mbo Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:14 AM Jon, it's called a hamburger because the original version started in Hamburg, Germany. It doesn't have anything to do with what it's made of. Just like a Frankfurter (from Frankfurt, Germany) , or a Weiner. In fact, a "Weiner" is German for someone from Vienna. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:22 AM That's why I call my wiener Joe Smackers....its the Americanized version of Josef Schmackhorst. Spaw |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: hesperis Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:56 AM Yves Veggie Weiner, either cut up into "coins" and simmered in baked beans with extra onions, or fried in garlic and placed on a slice of whole-wheat bread and then smothered in Ketchup and Honey Mustard. Mmmmmmmmmgooooood! LH - One of my circle dancing friends has a "weiner dog" named Ernie. He's a friendly (big) thing, and rather roly-poly with all the food he tricks people into giving him. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: DougR Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:56 AM So this place in Beckley, West Virginia, (home of the Hatfield's and the McCoy's outdoor drams) they put coleslaw, mustard, onions, and chili on their hotdogs. I found while there one time with Billy Edd Wheeler that they take their hotdogs very seriously. The making of a good hotdog invites studied discussion from the natives. I do not, however, remember that they put catsup on the hotdog. I cannot imagine anyone actually doing so. DougR |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: hesperis Date: 25 Sep 00 - 01:13 AM I put Ketchup on almost anything. (I said almost!) |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: SandyToes Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:03 AM HOT DOGS.....wow, what a topic. I LOVE MY HOT DOG. Oscar Meyers that is. But do you guys know what is in hot dogs? Well, let me share with you. He onced worked in a hot dog factory where they made hot dogs, sausage, and lunch meats.....and believe me, if you seen it, you would not EAT it. So that's why I like my HOT Dog. You guys made me all hungry with this food talk, I guess I will have to try some of these places out the next time I am out visiting them. And Tar honey, lots more chili the next time...it was good!! SandyToes |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: SandyToes Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:06 AM opps......i left out the part that said my brother was the one who once worked at the hot dog factory......and yucky is it nasty. S/T |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeri Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:17 AM Sorta like head cheese, but chopped up better. Someone had this brand of sliced head cheese - might have been Oscar Meyer - where they put chunks of things in and sliced the stuff after. It gave me the impression of being like a nice lab-ready cross section. Of course it also made me think about what I was eating. "What part of an animal is round and puckered like that...?" (It was probably just a nose, but I wasn't taking chances.) |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: guinnesschik Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:25 AM Nathan's Hot Dogs in New York. As a southern girl, I thought Bryan was the best, 'til Himself took me to NY. We went to Coney Island, and ate Nathan's Hot Dogs and walked along the pier...flapping our arms to keep the seagulls at bay. Best hot dog I ever had. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mbo Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:43 AM Reminds me of part of a poem I once wrote...
A Damon's hotdog is a bloated bag --Matt |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Kim C Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:45 AM Had to stop eating them - they make my head hurt. :( |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Rick Fielding Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:58 AM Just to stop confusion it's McKnees using Ricks computer. I,m so glad that coney sauce has nothing to do with Rabbits being boiled or something. I had my first Hot Dog about 3 days ago outside the Anglican Church in Toronto but it's so confusing, what do you put on it? I ended up with green stuff and I really enjoyed it and the visit to Toronto. McKnees(soon going home) |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: GUEST,Russ Date: 25 Sep 00 - 11:27 AM Lived for a time in Buffalo NY. Still dream of the hotdogs they sold there as "Texas Hots." The key was the basic ingredients, dogs and buns. There were several local makers of dogs and buns and the competition was fierce. I remember preferring Sahlens rolls but I cannot remember which dog brand I liked. I know for sure it was not a national brand. Buffalo weiners, no matter what the brand, left all national products in the dust. Flavor and texture to die for. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Bert Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:05 PM Jen, you said..."you're describing my last boyfriend. We're talking about real meat, here." I'm ROTFL Bert |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:43 PM I really hope to meet Ernie, the "weiner dog" one of these days...I love friendly dachshunds...I will bring Ernie a piece of a real weiner, which should arouse him out of his customary torpor in no time flat! I know dachshunds...they will eat till they fall down and die, if given the opportunity. Well, at least till they feel like they are going to die...we had to take Oscar to the vet one time and get his stomach pumped out after he devoured about 8 pounds of old rib bones and bacon grease he found in someone's garbage...it was pretty awful. After a couple of days resting, however, he was all ready to do it again at a moment's notice. No self-control whatsoever! |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Sep 00 - 04:04 PM ow does it tie in to folk music? Many years ago, I played at the Lum's in East Lansing, I believe it was on Wednesday nights. I also believe that the hot dogs were steamed in beer (as was everyone there). If I remember, the place was huge, and they payed real well. I got to eat free!! I believe I ran across a Lum's in or around Cambridge, a couple years back, no entertainment though-- |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mbo Date: 25 Sep 00 - 04:11 PM My Hotdog Had Puppies. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: WyoWoman Date: 25 Sep 00 - 04:36 PM The very, very best hot-dog like edible I had, now that I think about it, actually DOES have a music connection -- even a BLUES connection. I used to get hot links at a little place on Central Avenue in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Johnson's Rib Hut's hot links were wonderful sausages that the owners made themselves, meaty and flavorful and smothered in the absolute best barbecue sauce. Slap 'em on a bun, slather some of that sauce on top and oooh BAYbe are you talking tasty. I worked at the time as an arts writer for a newspaper there and when I did a telephone interview with Ray Charles, he mentioned how sick he got of food on the road, that it didn't have any flavor and the main thing he minded about being on the road was just the sameness of the food. And at the end of the interview, he said he'd enjoyed our talk so much he wanted me to come backstage to visit him after his gig. So, before the performance, I went by Johnson's Rib Hut and got two orders of hot links, with the fixin's, which I carefully wrapped in aluminum foil, then wrapped in a towel, so it would stay good and hot. Then I put it all down at the bottom of this great big shoulder bag I had and put all my girl-junk on top of it. Security sort of peered in and passed it on by. And after the gig, I went by, met Mr. Charles. We hugged, he kissed me on the cheek, and I gave him the hot link dinner. He said, "Well, Mama, that's about one of the nicest things anybody's ever done for me ... " and we started talking again, but his manager came up and hustled him away. It was a fateful moment. I just KNOW he wanted to ask me to come join his Rayettes and sing "shoop-shoo" behind him while wearing a slinky dress. But I had a date and he had a manager ... It was not to be ... I think Johnson's Rib Hut is now closed. too bad. They truly are the best hot links in the entire world. ww |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Peg Date: 25 Sep 00 - 04:44 PM LUM's!!! Thanks for that memory...there was a Lum's across from the mall in my hometown and we always had lunch there when I was a kid and I always had the two hotdog special...many years ago! Hard to beat Nathan's; it has also been many years since I ate there... also a very cool place in Manhattan is Papaya Gray's; they serve great hot dogs and papaya juice drinks (a la Orange Julius) and there are all these signs talking about how great papaya juice is for the digestion... these days I like 'em with brown mustard and raw onions...yum. But only rarely. |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: GUEST,Swarbrick Date: 25 Sep 00 - 06:43 PM ...gotta say...what a stupid f****** question... |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: WyoWoman Date: 26 Sep 00 - 01:58 AM Yes, but that was the point, wasn't it, Guest? To show us all what fools and idiots we are for talking about such a stupid ****ing question? And, I suppose an alternative point one might take out of all this is that if people like each other and want to visit, they'll visit about anything. So just keep throwing those hooks out there. Sure, some folks will bite, some won't. But I wonder who's really enjoying him/herself more, the one who's trying to prove to the others how stupid they are (and thereby hoping to shore up an ego that feels so insufficient that can only be fed by making everyone else seem less-than), or the ones who are just visiting and hanging out with each other, enjoying the company? Hmmm? I wonder. WyoWoman
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: M.Ted Date: 26 Sep 00 - 03:18 PM The question evoked a lot of interesting, and music related things, for me anyway, because-music and food go together (or they should) and it got me thinking about Kutztown, where, they had and have the folk festival (but it is a different one now, with a different name, the Kutztown Festival having moved to somewhere else) with music and food--Also the Black Angus, at the other Renninger's in Adamstown where the have good, locally brewed beer and dancing to live PA Dutch Music, most market days--My purchases from the stalls at Renningers tended to include records,sausages and such things, and occasional musical instruments-- And then there was the Lum's thing--It isn't stupid to me-- |
Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: mousethief Date: 26 Sep 00 - 03:25 PM Well said, WW! You go girl! As to the original question (which let's face it is pretty silly), definitely Vienna Beef, served in the proper Chicago style (pickle spear, onions, tomato wedges, mustard, celery salt(!), hot peppers, kraut, on a poppy-seed bun).
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Subject: RE: what's your favorite hot dog? From: tar_heel Date: 26 Sep 00 - 03:28 PM mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...you bet,sandytoes!lots of chilli on the hotdogs...........lots of chilli!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Apr 21 - 12:57 AM I was born in Detroit, and I don't remember the neighborhood where we lived in a two-story flat with my uncle's family living downstairs. I must have been very young when we moved to the far northwest part of Detroit, between 7 and 8 mile Road and between Meyer Road and Schaefer Highway. We were one of two Catholic families in a Jewish neighborhood, and my mom would walk with us to 7 mile road to shop for groceries. The stores were mostly Jewish, so we got kosher frankfurters to sample at the butcher shop while Mom was shopping, and of course we got bagels. This is my first memory of the delight of the hot dog - even though the frankfurters were cold when the butcher gave them to us because we were cute kids, they were so good that I remember them more than 65 years later. And then I moved to Wisconsin when I was 9 and had bratwurst, which was another trip to heaven. I kept going back to Detroit to visit relatives, and I think it wasn't until about 1995 thaT I learned that Coney Island Hot Dogs were a "thing" in Detroit - so of course I had to try them, and I have to have them every time I go to Detroit now. And then I married into a Rhode Island family in 2002, and I discovered "hot wieners" (New York System Hot Wieners) the first time I visited my new in-laws in Rhode Island. I couldn't believe how good they were. They're on a steamed bun, with onions and celery salt and a meat sauce that isn't quite chile. And they're cheap, and amazingly delicious. I've been to Coney Island, but I couldn't find place to park so I didn't get out of the car and was not able to sample a Coney Island Red Hot. But I know for a fact that hot dogs in Detroit and Rhode Island are terrific. Now, don't to to Wisconsin for hot dogs (although the ones at Usinger's in Milwaukee are darn good). But if you're in Wisconsin, eat the bratwurst and don't waste your time on the hot dogs. But if you're in Rhode Island or Detroit, eat hot dogs. And when you get tired of hot dogs, I can lead you to some great Polish restaurants in Detroit (Hamtramck) and in Rhode Island. New York System Hot Wieners, Rhode Island. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: The Sandman Date: 27 Apr 21 - 04:01 AM Joe, on the subject of sausages, my dad who was a butcher reckoned that the best ones were made by finely chopping the meat rather than mincing it, of course this is not commercially viable because it is time consuming |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Donuel Date: 27 Apr 21 - 12:49 PM Nathans hot dogs taste good but the owner has an ideology similar to John Voight. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: robomatic Date: 27 Apr 21 - 03:01 PM It is primitive quality meat compared to what you folks are discussing, but I had my first chili dog on a paper plate at some bush Alaska airport. I'm sure the dog was barely above, well, dog, and the chili was out of a can. But it was hot and for my taste buds a new fully workable concept! |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Doug Chadwick Date: 27 Apr 21 - 03:59 PM A 'deep and meaningful' discussion over 4 days, then refreshed after more than 20 years as if no time had elapsed at all. It must be a slow day in Sacramento. DC |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mrrzy Date: 28 Apr 21 - 05:22 PM Cooked over charcoal, with Dijon or coarse German mustard and sauerkraut. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: gillymor Date: 28 Apr 21 - 05:39 PM Used to be kosher dogs from Katz' supermarket in Rockville, MD. We'd boil up a bunch of them during the Redskins games and wash them down with National Premium. I put mine on a plain bagel and heaped on Katz' cole slaw and that was it. Hebrew National dogs were also pretty good as was their knockwurst. Nowadays it's Morningstar Farms Veggie Dogs on a whole wheat bun. They taste kind of neutral so you need various combinations of diced Vidalia onions and Vidalia onion relish, Gulden's Spicy Brown, kraut and picalily. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Donuel Date: 28 Apr 21 - 07:07 PM The SNAP of a natural casing hot dog is satisfying but the impossible to chew portion is secretly discarded. If you find the skeletal remains of rat tail in the dog I would reccomend eating more slowly. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: gillymor Date: 28 Apr 21 - 07:52 PM creepy |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: The Sandman Date: 29 Apr 21 - 01:36 AM there used to be a butchers in the east end of london called Pikes that made their own saveloys that were wonderful, i think it was in the road which was formerly ratcliffe highway now commercial road. these saveloys were served with pease pudding and or sauerkraut |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeri Date: 29 Apr 21 - 09:27 AM Gillymor, it's creepier if you know what the "natural casings" are. And to think, we make fun of haggis. (I like haggis.) I think that, when this thread was new, some 21-ish years ago, I set out on a quest, and discovered Flo's Relish. I think one has to go to Flo's now. Or possibly Amazon. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeri Date: 29 Apr 21 - 09:28 AM Nope, for the record, the quest started because OldDude started a thread some years after this. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: gillymor Date: 29 Apr 21 - 09:37 AM Jeri, I was responding to Don's rat tail comment, I'm well familiar with natural casings as a buddy of mine from Minnesota makes sausages which are no longer part of my diet, unfortunately. Another favorite dog condiment is Mike's Wicked Relish. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Jeri Date: 29 Apr 21 - 09:54 AM I figured it was the rat tail. I think if it's chopped up fine enough, no one |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Donuel Date: 29 Apr 21 - 10:13 AM The rat tail incident actually happened to me on Main St. Buffalo NY. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: gillymor Date: 29 Apr 21 - 12:59 PM and that is why you never ask how sausage is made. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Mrrzy Date: 29 Apr 21 - 05:19 PM I prefer my casing indistinguishable from the hot dog itself. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 30 Apr 21 - 07:36 AM 100! Soft white roll, Bratwurst, Saurkraut and plenty of mustard. |
Subject: RE: BS: what's your favorite hot dog? From: Steve Shaw Date: 30 Apr 21 - 08:52 AM A proper butcher's pork sausage (preferably from Moore's of Kilkhampton and Bude), barbecued unadorned, in a nice long roll with fried onions and lashings of tommy k. Wear a bib and sit over your plate. |