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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Eric the Viking Date: 06 Nov 00 - 03:28 PM Selby. Do you know anything about Elston place? looting, flooding? We were there on Saturday early morning to help out Dawn's mum. If you can get back to me. We may get over there on wednesday. cheers. Eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: CamiSu Date: 06 Nov 00 - 02:58 PM Just got to read this, but my dry warm thoughts have been with you all week, as I have been hearing reports on the radio. I take it the Northeast is much drier? I haven't heard from Jessica, and trust she made it out to Spain. Keep dry. Heck of a way to start a winter! (They say we are in for a really cold one. To my mind that is FAR preferable to rain... if anyone decides to evacuate to New England, I have room for a few more! Cami Su |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: selby Date: 06 Nov 00 - 02:20 PM I dont know how you make this into a blue clicky thing http://www.selbynet.co.uk/flood/alert.html but there are some piccys of the flood. keith Clickified. --JoeClone |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 06 Nov 00 - 02:19 PM It's been sunny all day in this part of the westcountry. Let's hope there isn't more to come. Hard to believe about the looting. Good luck with the next stage. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: selby Date: 06 Nov 00 - 02:11 PM It has just rained ALL night and morning we are now awaitnig the water off the hills due to arrive here in the next 36 to 48 hours for the second round of floods. The Army are placing sandbags at potential weak spots. I am told that looting has taken place in some of the houses that have been left empty but this is only gossip not offical Keith |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: selby Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:33 AM Selby has still got some problems, we on the south side have got power but there ate still people who have had none since friday evening, and we have been out helping get hot drinks to those who have no power and can't get out. The river is expected to be high again at 2pm and we wait with baited breath to see if the pumps can cope !! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: roopoo Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:22 AM Bill's just phoned me to ask if I'm ok, and I am. We have had some water in the village, but it is due to the beck, which runs through part of the village, suffering from back-flow from the flooded fields and dyke into which it normally goes. The crossroads about 100yds down from me was under about 6" on friday morning, and the houses across from the beck (luckily above road level) couldn't easily get out. Up the road from there water was lapping in back gardens and one friend hopes his prize fish went to the bottom of his pond when it got covered. Even if they did, he says they'll be sickly from the mucky water. The local post office said it got within about 10 feet of their buildings. It has receded a bit for the time being, and I hear the A19 is now open. The problem there is that the same dyke which receives our beck crosses the road about halfway between us and Haddlesey. It had burst its banks on Monday. The road is on a low causeway over the flood-plain. I went through early Thursday Morning on my way to Selby, and just there, where the road dips, it was flooded, while the rest of the road had water literally lapping at its edges. It was closed by lunchtime. Selby has been without power due to a sub-station being flooded, but I think it may be back on now. Barlby, just to the other side of Selby has had problems, and there continues to be concern about a large residential area of Selby which is by the river. My sympathies go to the guy in the next village along from me, Gowdall. He has a fishing lake and this was not flooding. (At least on Thursday) But the environment agency the next day in their wisdom decided, so I was told, to deliberately breach the floodbank near him to take the water away from the main village. They omitted to warn him of this, and not only did it flood the road, it also flooded his house and his carp lake with £50k worth of fish. He was featured on the TV news. He has lost everything. To give you an idea of where we are, Bill and I live on the south side of the Aire, south of Selby. The floodbank's literally at the bottom of his road, whereas I am about half a mile away, and my village is on a slight rise. Yet even so, with the beck backing up, we still get some flooding. We may end up as an island! They have evacuated people from villages either side of us who are closer to the river. So we now wait and see what the next couple of days will bring.The water got quite close to the road out of our village which leads to the A19. Selby is on the Ouse. The two rivers converge about 10 miles east from me at Airmyn, but I went by that way on friday, and being a wider channel and tidal, it looked merely like a very high tide. Goole, an inland port nearby, does not seem to flood! My sympathy is with any of you who have suffered. I feel so lucky to be on a bit of a hill! Andrea Andrea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: magician Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:17 AM Bill the reason you couldn't contact Tig & Badger is because they were up here with me until Saturday. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:10 AM Skipjack Ahoy!!!! Sorry to have neglected answering the Mudcat register for low lying UK Catters. I've had a bitch of a week, travelling mostly, dodging floods. I hit Essex Friday night, and pumped a ton of rainwater out of the Natterjack, that had amassed in 11 days! I drove north late Friday to find the Humber still within it's banks. If the flood plain as far down as me gets it, we are nationally in deep shit. I can't get on to the Cat on my computer at work, and can't get near this box at home for the ankle biters. They've gone out to give the dog a run on the sand at Cleethorpes, and Bill just rang to register your concern, so thanks, Carol. It looks like we're in for another dose tonight, with a deep mother of a low crossing the country slowly, dumping a couple of inches over the next day or so, with snow above 600 feet on the leading edge, and gales on all coasts. The sort of stuff that makes one lay awake nights wondering whether 3/8ths chain is man enough to hold the old girl. I lost Natterjack in the 87 hurricane, she bounced off every trawler in the creek, was dismasted and fished up upside down at the end of Tollesbury creek, so I'm a bit edgy with 30 degree winds (the angle of repose not to be blown over!). Hope Mouldy isn't, not from rising damp, anyway. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:07 AM Fionn, I'm assuming two of the properties were businesses, and like a lot of small businessmen he is struggling to keep his head above water (no pun intended). Not all property owners are capitalist bully boys. The wind is now getting up as well, the sky solid slate grey and the rain drumming audibly against my window. I have no doubt about your last comment, "where are the keepers, who bled the whole thing dry". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:03 AM Hand on, dear friends! I wish I could send some of our dry weather to you! Bill- keep those teabags high and dry!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: bill\sables Date: 05 Nov 00 - 07:00 AM Just phoned Skipjack he is OK on the Humber Mouldy is still OK although around her seems in chaos and Selby who had no electricty all day yesterday is out helping others. I so far have not been able to contact Tig and Badger. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 05 Nov 00 - 06:27 AM Greyes, hard to feel sorry for anyone who has three properties,but I'll try. Alison, it's been raining most of the three weeks I've been over here (counties Antrim and Down) - as usual. And as usual, it's like water off a duck's back. No problems anywhere this side of the water, as far as I know. I should think Skipjack's OK in Lincolnshire, and so is my place in Sherwood forest (River Trent flodd valley). Rroblems with the Trent have been higher up in Derbyshire/Staffordshire. For somereason, all that low land on the east side (apart from the vale of York) seems to be escaping relatively lightly. We'll see what today (Sunday) brings. (More rain is forecast.) Does sanyone still doubt that we're fucking the world up for our kids? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: CarolC Date: 05 Nov 00 - 06:23 AM Bill, have you heard anything from Skipjack? Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: bill\sables Date: 05 Nov 00 - 06:15 AM We are still about a foot below the top of the defences in Rawcliffe on the Aire but if it comes over I live about 20 yards from the river. My Daughter in Cawood on the Ouse has been on evacuation standby since Thursday but the army are building sandbag walls on top of the flood barriers so the water has not breached them yet. Cawood bridge is underwater and has been since Thursday The river which is about 20 yards wide stretches for as far as you can see. In Selby (Home of mudcatter Selby)on the Ouse they were evacuated on friday night. Most of the roads around are underwater but there are ways if you take detours. The main A19 around the Jug is closed. The village of Gowdall which lies between me and Mouldy has been evacuated. Mouldy has not posted so I hope she is OK She might have had to store her computer upstairs but I don't know. I have heard no news from Tig and Badger but they live further south near Doncaster where there has not been much flooding. I will let you all know of any further developments Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 05 Nov 00 - 05:24 AM The weather is closing in again. It's teeming down in the westcountry. Batten down the hatches. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: CarolC Date: 05 Nov 00 - 04:46 AM Are people being evacuated? Is there anything we can do over here? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Llanfair Date: 05 Nov 00 - 04:39 AM There are more storms forecast, starting tonight here. The water that has flooded Shrewsbury, Ironbridge, and now Gloucester has come from the Welsh hills and, although it doesn't affect us much, we are very aware of the consequences of a full river for other people. Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: CarolC Date: 05 Nov 00 - 04:01 AM Is everybody ok over there? Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 04 Nov 00 - 06:59 PM And however much they're spending researching penguins falling over in the South Atlantic. (See another thread) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: bill\sables Date: 04 Nov 00 - 06:08 PM The Government has pledged £51 million to improve flood defences. Not a lot when you think of £90million for the bloddy Dome and £900 million for the railways. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 04 Nov 00 - 01:06 PM One of the main purposes of sandbagging properties is not to keep the water out, which is impossible, but to stop solid matter getting in, a fairly repulsive thought, but necessary. A man was interviewed on local TV (westcountry) a couple of nights ago, his three properties had flooded for the second time this year. He has a £5000 excess on his insurance so will have to pay out £15,000 of his own money before the insurance coughs up a penny. He gestured to what looked like a great lake behind him "I've got this", he said, "and it's coming in, what can I do, what can I do?" The poor man was choking back tears as he spoke, your heart had to go out to him, and all the others suffering in the same way. Thankfully there's been little or no reported loss of life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Jon Freeman Date: 04 Nov 00 - 12:23 PM Greyeyes, we have no river in Llandudno but the town got hit by a freak downpour several years ago and the drainage system failed to cope. I was living on a hill above the town at the time but I know the mess that was created. These people have my sympathy. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 04 Nov 00 - 12:12 PM It's not just the silt from the river water, many drains have backed up and people have raw sewage flowing through their homes. Someone suggested on the radio this morning that now that Steve Redgrave has retired from competitive rowing he should be employed as a fourth rescue service, sculling round people's homes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: CarolC Date: 03 Nov 00 - 07:39 PM Does anyone know how Skipjack is doing over in North Lincolnshire? I haven't heard from him in a couple of days and I know he does a lot of driving around, presumably through some of the areas that are in bad shape. Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: katlaughing Date: 03 Nov 00 - 07:24 PM Anyone heard from Tig or Badger or Magician? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Noreen Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:59 PM On the national news today was a report of the Whitby lifeboat sailing inland up the River Esk to rescue people in Ruswarp! Noreen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: poet Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:55 PM Trevor I saw a Picture in the Paper of what looked like the English Bridge in Shrewsbury at the bottom of the cop (is it). Its been many years my Uncle Ken used to live on the river front there. (I'm an Edwards on my mothers side) the Severn has always been a muddy river it will take months to clear the silt. Here in Guernsey we are wet and a little flooded the wind is the worst of it but that is trivial compared to our Northen cousins. Graham Hyett(Guernsey) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Cobble Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:30 PM Bill Pleased to hear you are still Dry, how are you Mouldy? Goole is OK so far Brian keeps going onto the Ouse river bank, the water is moving very fast but its still well within the banks, high tide is in a few hours from now, we can only wait and at the moment count our blessings. Just seen York on the TV it looks like Venice. Many people being evacuated. Can you belive, the police are having to ask folks NOT to go there to sight see!!! They are now evacuating parts of Selby! Thoughts are with all these people. Mrs. Cobble
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: bill\sables Date: 03 Nov 00 - 05:30 PM My Feet are still dry but Gowdall (next village to Mouldy)has sunk. I hope Mouldy is OK |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Linda Kelly Date: 03 Nov 00 - 05:28 PM On the news tonight it is looking very grave for YOrk where the flood barriers are in danger of breaching early tomorrow morning .This may result in 3000 homes being evacuated. Hull Beverley etc don't seem too badly affected as the flood defences are holding, but more of the same horrendous weather is forecast for Sunday. best keep your fireworks somewhere dry! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Barbara Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:30 PM Here's another for all you soggy folks: THE MONTHS. (Though, according to this one, you're really still in October). Blessings, Barbara |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Eric the Viking Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:19 PM Well, Bill I hope you are OK and that Sid and Val at the Jug are OK. I have to drive along that stretch on Saturday because Dawn's mum is coming back from Spain to try and save her house in Selby (about 100 yards from the river) Hope we make it!! See you in a couple of weeks. Hope everyone who is suffering from this deluge is safe and well. Cheers. Eric |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 03 Nov 00 - 04:02 PM The field behind the Jug is under several inches of water and bonfires are being postponed. I heard on the news that Cawood was now flooded so I guess that means you've got house guests Bill! They say the water is still rising despite the drier weather today but more rain on the way on Sunday! We are safe here in Pontefract but are thinking of any 'catters out there who are flood ridden. Just be on your guard when the old guy down the road starts inviting zoo animals round to stay!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: sian, west wales Date: 03 Nov 00 - 06:12 AM Noreen, loved the Stan Holloway piece! Another piece somewhat relevant - by GK Chesteron:
As old Father Noah said to his wife I heard this morning that some pipes in Barmouth have burst and the people there are without water. How the newscaster kept a straight face I'll never know.
sian, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Llanfair Date: 03 Nov 00 - 05:05 AM Noreen, I haven't thought about that one for years, thanks for the reminder! The sun is shining in Llanfair Caereinion this morning, but I'm hoping that the wet will discourage the people with fireworks this weekend, then I won't have to spend the whole time with a large dog shivering on my lap. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Escamillo Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:45 PM Wishing you all a fast recovery from damages - Un abrazo - Andrés (from the other side of the world which is not flooded but permanently wet too) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Noreen Date: 02 Nov 00 - 11:30 PM For all you who are 'determined but moist'...THREE HA'PENCE A FOOT Noreen in a wet, miserable but unflooded Bury(You know, where black puddings is made!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Nov 00 - 09:38 PM I'm just waiting to see how these petrol blockading lorries cope with the floods...poetic justice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: alison Date: 02 Nov 00 - 08:06 PM thanks for the ifo Quincy... yep I've got spare beds and heaps of floor.... everyone come over to dry out....
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: bill\sables Date: 02 Nov 00 - 06:38 PM As I left the Jug last night it seemed like I was driving along a causeway with vast lakes on either side of the road I have heard today that the A19 (The road between the M62 and the Jug) has been breached and is closed off. Mouldy might be able to give more info on this stretch of waterway as she lives nearest to it. Where I live in Rawcliffe the River Aire is about 30 feet from my house, it has risen to about one foot from the top of the flood prevention wall but so far has not come over the top. The flood plane on the oposite side has a six inch lower bank so it should all go that way but that area is already flooded. My Daughter lives in Cawood and their flood plane is overflowing onto the village side as we speak. She, along with my new grandaughter, have been put on alert and are expecting evacuation. I was across there earlier today and brought photos, birth certs etc. home with me. She lives in a single storey house. I see Cobble is still dry so Graham Pirt should also be OK. If the bloddy rain stops we should be OK Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Cobble Date: 02 Nov 00 - 06:20 PM Mrs Duck, Hope you are safe. We did'nt go to the Jug either. We are only 100yds from the Ouse and it was on red alert last night. Thankfully we are still warm and dry.How is your neck now? On the mend I hope. Margaret. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: nutty Date: 02 Nov 00 - 06:06 PM It's chucking it down ( as we say in Yorkshire ) again - with a lot more rain forecast. I'm not affected but the poor people living further south , near York - are going to suffer. I hope there are no Mudcatters among them |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Greyeyes Date: 02 Nov 00 - 05:50 PM My sister who lives a few mile from Upton-Upon-Severn tells me the town has been renamed Upton-Under-Severn, tho' this is virtually an annual event in that part of the world. Their home is thankfully still dry at present. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Mrs.Duck Date: 02 Nov 00 - 04:42 PM Our playground at school was 4" under water in Barnsley today and we aren't even on the river. We didn't go to the Jug last night because the twins are ill but qa friend told us the water was very high so we were reluctant anyway especially since the last time we drove the Renault Espace through a puddle the engine blew up!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: katlaughing Date: 02 Nov 00 - 10:06 AM Anyone seen Noah? Seriously, please be careful and keep your knickers dry. Everything can be replaced but you, so don't take any chances, eh? luvyakat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: SINSULL Date: 02 Nov 00 - 09:13 AM More bad weather in the picture. And evacuations. Be careful, all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Quincy Date: 02 Nov 00 - 05:55 AM Alison, The family in Belfast are ringing here to see if I'm ok rather than the other way around when I watch the news!! Wet and windy... a bit more than usual but they're used to it! Sure isn't that why it's so green?! Might emmigrate meself....have you got a spare bed??? best wishes, Yvonne |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 02 Nov 00 - 03:42 AM The forecast for Yorkshire looks bad, just about every river in the region is on flood alert. Its not raining at the moment, but this afternoon over an inch of rain is expected. Last night Eric the Viking gave me a lift to the Jug, as we went over the river next to the Jug, it was inches from the bridge, thought we might get marooned there and have to stay there for week. We didn't, or I wouldn't be writing this. But if that river rises anymore, I can't see how the Jug can avoid being flooded. Patrish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Storms in England/Wales 10/30/00 From: GUEST,Kernow Jon Date: 02 Nov 00 - 03:41 AM Alison I'm not sure about Ireland (will try and find out) but a friend of mine in the village who's from Clare says they pray for weather as good as this on the West Coast of Ireland :-) KJ |