Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00

Subject: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Morticia
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 06:10 PM

Record number of flood warnings in the UK just been issued, with no let up of rain in the foreseeable future.Most of where I live is now under water but none in the house so far, we don't live near any rivers but the sewers have given up the ghost nearby.Wales and N.Yorkshire look to be the worst hit,send good thoughts there and my love to all of you living there.
The cats are pretty bored with this now and would like to take up your offer, Cami Su.I'm packing their fluffy toys as we speak.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Greyeyes
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 06:19 PM

Incredibly another 3 inches of rain are forecast over the next few days. 52 official flood warnings on 35 rivers.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: GUEST,Kernow Jon
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 06:27 PM

Morticia
Sorry to hear your surrounded by the water but glad to hear the house is ok.
We are not suffering the floods but the damage from wind is pretty severe locally. Noel Murphy who some of you may know lost the part of the roof of his house last night. A Spanish fishing vessel off our shores got swamped by 14 meter waves and the local helicopter crew was in action and managed to get the crew off but we don't know what has happened to the vessel yet. You have to admire the work of people like Dave the Mariner etc. they have some quiet courage don't they?. My prayers are with those of you further north and west.
KJ

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Cobble
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:04 PM

Morty , keep your feet dry! We are so far very lucky, we live just south of Selby, 50 metres from the river Ouse. The garden isnt flooded but very soggy and our long coated , short legged Skye Terriers aint happy. Has anyone heard from Bill Sables? Mrs. C

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:38 PM

Looking forward to ten hours (if we're lucky) in gales on the Irish sea tomorrow. In the normal way of things, this would be a good time to be leaving - County Down's just beginning to get seriously wet. But I gather England's a whole lot wetter, for once.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: DougR
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 07:51 PM

Wow! I just saw pictures of the floods on NBC News. Terrible! Keep as dry as you can, Mudcatters. Thinking about you and hope you all are safe and sound.

DougR

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: death by whisky
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 08:16 PM

I'm in Kerry,West IRELAND.Most of the Atlantic fronts are hitting here then moving east.The walls of the mobile home are breathing.Looks rough in England.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: WyoWoman
Date: 06 Nov 00 - 10:17 PM

I heard this on NPR tonight in my car and immediately thought of all our Mudcat brethren and sistern in the U.K. Prayers and dry, windless thoughts beaming your way from the high and dry American Rockies.

We'll keep checking this thread for news, so let us know what's going on with you ...

ww

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: roopoo
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:15 AM

Well I was near Bill's village yesterday, and the Aire was down a bit, but due to rise. The riverbank is designed to flood away from his village, but it is what works its way around from overloaded flood plains that presents a problem, as it does for my village (Hensall). It stops our village beck flowing, and backs it all up. It then floods up to where it is piped through, and works round from the top end, where it can't enter the piping. Snaith, the next place along upstream from Bill's, and then Gowdall, the one before my village, are on red alert. I hear George street in Snaith has had some flooding and people have been evacuated. Some have refused to leave. The car sales place near the river has moved all the cars, although they didn't get hit at the weekend. There is a drainage ditch between the field and them, but a lot will depend on how much work it can do. Gowdall is in worse immediate danger than Snaith, and has been all along, as it is right by the river and the overflow from the floodplains comes there first from very nearby. The A645 is still closed at Little Heck, just south of Gowdall, due to flooding (there's a deep dip in it under a railway bridge). And I have my daughter's boyfriend from Selby staying with me as he works this way, and his house is full of family evacuated from Barlby, near Selby, which has been badly hit. I did hear a whispered rumour last night that Drax power station might be at risk of flooding. It is on the Ouse.

Where are you, exactly, Cobble? Are you east or west bank? Bill and I are on the Aire. The rain is battering down at the moment (6am Tuesday) but we had a dry afternoon yesterday, and the high winds thankfully don't seem to have come to us.(Yet?)

I count myself very fortunate being on a slight rise. We are only about 30 feet above sea level round here, so tidal rivers, extra rain and rising sea levels all could affect us in this area to some degree.

I wonder how Ian Stephenson and his dad WindyB are coping? The Aire floods near them, and they aren't far from the river.

Andrea

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: DougR
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:17 AM

So? Is the weather getting better over there? Things are kind of rough over here too, but it has little to do with the weather. Fortunately, come Wednesday, things will settle down a bit here though. Keep in touch with us here on the Mudcat so we know how you are faring!

DougR

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Troll
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:24 AM

Has anyone got any news about the Isle Of Man? There are several Mudcatters there (BobbyBob and BigJ) but they don't have cookies and I can't contact them via PM.

troll

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:33 AM

I had a message from Tig, that she, Badger, Firecat and Magician are all doing okay. She did say all round the Jug is flooded and the bonfires cancelled until it gets dried out.

You all be careful and be sure to entertain your critters so they don't take out after you to break the boredom.**BG** Any and all are welcome to come share in the wonderful snow and wind we've got here. Bill Sables knows the way, so just follow along.

Really glad to hear the crew is safe from the Spanish vessel and, yes, it does cause so much admiration for DaveTAM and others who do such good works.

luvyakat

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Troll
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:45 AM

"Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the Sea."

troll

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 01:46 AM

Bill Sables, thanks so much for checking on Skipjack for me. I hope you are ok yourself. Is Kit still in York, or has she been evacuated?

Keeping all of you over there in my thoughts (constantly), until things start getting better.

Carol

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Jock Morris
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 03:54 AM

Some flooding up in Fife now, in places where I've never seen flooding before. Some minor roads closed. Believe Edinburgh is on flood alert in places as the river Leith is rising again (had fallen back for a while over night). Still raining here, but has eased in the last hour.

Scott

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: roopoo
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 04:07 AM

Windy B and Ian Stephenson are not flooded. I remembered them being badly affected a few years ago, but apparently that was after the flood bank had been damaged. He's just told me that they've closed the A19 just south of the Jug again as it is under about 2 feet of water. The police let him through and then pulled the Land Rovers across. I also heard on the news this morning that the police had been going round the villages of Beal and Birkin, which are just upstream of the Aire from here, during the night, advising residents that they may be evacuated. If it wasn't for the higher road out of the village to the south, I think we'd soon be living on an island!

Andrea

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Llanfair
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 04:08 AM

It's still raining here, and I have to venture out to Welshpool to the dentist this morning. I hope that not too many streams have re-routed across the roads, my Astra is not very well-behaved in the wet.
The Banwy is once again a raging black torrent, taking all our excess water to Shrewsbury and beyond.
The forecast says that it might ease up by the weekend. I hope so, I'm taking the aged parents to Llandudno to stay in a posh hotel this weekend.
Cheers, Bron.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: bill\sables
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 07:30 AM

Feet are still dry in Rawcliffe but it seems to be getting nearer Beal and Birkin have gone under. Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 09:03 AM

If the Lake District is the wettest part of the UK and Manchester the second how come we ain't flooded yet?!?!?

Well - Manchester isn't (touch wood) and I haven't heard of any floods in the Lakes

Drove from Garstang (Preston) to Shipley (Bradford) the other day on a route directly between the two areas and that was all pretty bad. Nelson to Keighly was dreadful and the river Aire looked fit to flood the Keighly by-pass soon.

Deepest commiserations to those affected and keep your chins up (literaly!)

Dave the Dry Gnome

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: bill\sables
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 02:16 PM

The Water is now rising towards the top of the wall about 1 foot to go. We also have a build up of raim water on the dryish side of the wall It is about 6inches deep between me and The Admiral Nelson Pub. Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 02:28 PM

Strange, isn't it? A few months back Colorado Mudcatters were praying for rain. Stay safe and dry, all. Prayers and good thoughts for Dave's British counterparts.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 02:56 PM

Good luck everyone in despair. I won't be on for a while but hope you all keep safe. We are waiting to find out if Dawn's mum's house gets it tonight, she is only 100 metres from the river. Where are you cobble|? We are often in Selby. I know Elston place has been evacuated. dawn managed to get through to there today and it wasn't looking good. Hope to see all at the Jug when my hand is better or the floods go down.

I'm sure God told Noah to build a park!!

Cheers

Eric

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Cobble
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 03:10 PM

Here in Hook we are still dry at the moment HA, but listening to the rythm of the falling rain, cue for a song. But a big problem is looming this coming weekend called spring tides. Which means the river Humber and the Ouse will be high never mind what is coming down from the high land, so we must keep our fingers crossed that somehow the levels will drop before then. The threat to Goole and Hook I think is coming across country from the direction of Gowdall at the moment. Strange how the weathermen have not mentioned the spring tides yet?

Stay safe everyone Cobble.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Tig
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 05:44 PM

Firecat didn't make it to college in Selby today as the A19 was closed at Chapel Haddesley (The Jug!) before she set off. She was panicing a bit in case she got there and couldn't get home again.

There's lots of standing water around us (we are half way betweeen Selby and Doncaster) but no major flooding.Some areas ofDoncaster are now underwater, especially where the Don goes through Sprotborough Gorge, and North Bridge (the main route in and out of Doncaster) was being very closely monitered at lunchtime but I think they just avoided closure.

I don't think we'll even be attempting the Jug tomorrow - has anyone heard if the water has got in the pub?

Try and keep dry, externally if not internally!!!

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: bill\sables
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 06:30 PM

Tig I talked to Sid last night and he said the Jug was dry Of water that is. Bill

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 06:44 PM

Question, Cobble: why are they called the "spring" tides, this time of year? Just curious.

It's good to see you all checking in. Glad to hear all are safe, sorry about any loss or destruction you may experience.

kat

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Cobble
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 08:10 PM

Sorry I cannot help with the question kat, they only happen in winter September to April approx. Maybe its because when spring comes they have gone? I'll try to find out and get back to you with it.

Cobble.

At least the village pub still seems normal tonight.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: WyoWoman
Date: 07 Nov 00 - 09:04 PM

Still thinking of y'all over there and holding a good thought. Thank you for checking in and I'll keep monitoring this thread to see how our MudCousins are doing.

I'm obsessed with our election results right now, but your postings help me keep all in perspective.

ww

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: roopoo
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 02:23 AM

I thought a spring tide was just a full tide, tied (ouch!) in with the phases of the moon. The opposite being the neap tides, which are exceptionally low. It's just that they get bigger in the spring/autumn, perhaps. I'm not a mariner-type, though.

Gowdall will have plenty to send you in Hook if what's around me here is anything to go by. ( I live 2 miles upstream). Our crossroads in the village was under about 6 inches of water again late last night, which means the beck will be backing up again. My daughter's boyfriend managed, by going via Snaith, to get to his mum's on the south side of Selby. He says his uncle has been evacuated again from Barlby and told that if the worst happens the water could reach his upstairs, and that it might be 3 months before he can get back in. Also, if the defences at Selby breached last night, it would flood the electrical sub-station. The boyfriend also said that the state of the river crossing at Snaith was looking a bit "iffy". It will depend on what gets onto the approach roads.

Syd at the Jug once told me that the pub had never been flooded in its 250 year history, because the water always goes the other side of the river.

Thoughts are with all you lot who may be soaking and flooded.

Andrea

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Wolfgang
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 04:32 AM

Spring tides: always happen (about twice a month) when the moon is aligned with the sun or opposite it (viewed from earth) since then the gravitational powers of moon and sun add together to yield a larger overall effect.
The word 'spring' for a time of year and for an especially high tide come from the same source, i.e. 'spring' as 'grow, rise (rather quickly)', but the time of the year doesn't give the name to the tide.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Boxette
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 07:55 AM

Great to be back on the Cat again, finding a computer until a couple of days ago involved knowledge of scuba diving. York is reeling to say the least; we may have to move out any day because nobody knows how to drain the campus of sewage - how lovely. You'd think they'd have anticipated flooding like this, wouldn't you? Anyway, the Ouse looks like the Amazon at the moment; we've been into town to take pictures for posterity, but other than that we're sheltering until Noah comes with the ark. Thankfully, my box has just been delivered to me after a quiet week in the back of a car, so I am regaling my captive housemates with St. Anne's Reel, which Skipjack can testify I still cannot play. Carol, thanks for thinking of me, Yours in the inundation, Kit

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Cobble
Date: 08 Nov 00 - 10:16 AM

The Ouse was running well seawards and a bit lower than of late, when I crossed Boothferry Bridge his morning at 9am. Mouldy hope you still have dry feet at your place.Mrs. C.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Cobble
Date: 09 Nov 00 - 08:25 PM

No rain today and tr yard is dry for the first time in over a week. Hope the water has gone down in the flooded areas. Weather forcast is for more rain over the weekend. are there any Catters in the Melton Mowbry area. I have to travel there on sundy and would like to know if there is any flooding. Mrs. C.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 07:56 PM

Glad to hear the rain is easing. Maddie's violin teacher has a photo taken from the top of Eggborough power station along the river and you can see the extent of the flooding. I'm hoping to get a copy of it. Hopefully the Jug will be accessable again from the South next Wednesday and we can get back to normal. See you all soon.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Greyeyes
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 08:06 PM

Hate to be the bringer of bad tidings but it's rained heavily in Plymouth Tonight, and worse is forecast for the weekend.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Cobble
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 08:20 AM

Greyeyes, keep your eyes pealed and your feet dry, hope you don't get too many problems. Mrs.C

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Quincy
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 08:47 AM

It's wild again down here near to Southampton.....the wind has been blowing up and the rain is heavy! Glad I haven't replaced the fence yet!

Thinking of those who are still under water..

best wishes, Yvonne

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 08:54 AM

pretty grim where I am, it's been persisting down for hours now, the rain in Hampshire is mainly in the houses.

Subject: RE: Son of Storms in England/Wales 6-11-00
From: Greyeyes
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 09:01 AM

Utterly miserable all day, but it is at last brightening up, & I can see patches of blue sky.