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Prayer Chain Update, FAQs
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Subject: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Feb 01 - 02:13 AM UPDATE AS "PRAISE'S PRAYER CHAIN" RESUMES OPERATION In early November 2000, a prayer chain by e-mail began among several Christian Mudcatters and friends who had been asking each other to pray as individuals as needs arose. The prayer chain grew in number of recipients and requests for prayer throughout that month and was issued weekly or oftener as urgent prayer needs were submitted. I coordinated the messages and maintained the address list, until our housefire in early December, when another participant took over the list until I could get back up and running. (Since then "Praise" has had a name change to "WYSIWYG.") The Prayer Chain is still very new and is still creating itself via input received from participants. Its existence evinces respect for Mudcatters who find Mudcat-posted prayer requests problematic, and it allows for prayerful regard of deeply personal prayer requests in an environment free of flames and rancor. The prayer list also includes a prayer for the Mudcat Cafe and its leaders. Of course this prayer, like each prayer on the list, is entirely optional! Participants are expected to exercise mature responsibility in how they use and respond to the list-- there are no Prayer Chain Police forcing anyone to pray the words provided or for the situations described. Participants also are expected and asked to provide feedback to me about the conduct of the Prayer Chain. This includes thoughtful discussion toward consensus should anything about the prayer list be offensive to them in any way. WANT THE FAQs? The current operating guidelines for the Prayer Chain are detailed in a four-page FAQs document available from me via e-mail. (If requested I will post the document here.) The subjects covered by the current FAQs include:
Who participates? ~Susan
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Feb 01 - 11:04 AM I'm pleased to say that the diversity of the Prayer Chain has increased in recent days. A new list of prayer requests will be mailed to the Prayer Chain later today, and I'd be pleased to add new requests. If you have one, please e-mail to me with subject line PRAYER. (Click HERE to e-mail me.) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Lonesome EJ Date: 07 Feb 01 - 11:46 AM |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: mousethief Date: 07 Feb 01 - 11:52 AM Can you rephrase that, LEJ? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Lonesome EJ Date: 07 Feb 01 - 01:00 PM twas an unspoken prayer,mt |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Feb 01 - 02:21 PM How lovely, LEJ! Editing in latest requests now... still lots of room for more-- will go out around 7PM Mudcat tuime, so do e-mail your new requests if any. Look up to my last post for a clicky to my e-mail. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: mousethief Date: 07 Feb 01 - 02:24 PM Those are the hardest to email, LEJ, but sometimes the most meaningful. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Quincy Date: 08 Feb 01 - 12:01 PM meaningful and refreshing *BG* |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 10 Feb 01 - 12:30 PM Hello, weekend Mudcatters. The documents described above are now available in two formats:
Please specify which format is preferable when e-mailing me for information. Next Prayer List issue, assuming usual traffic, is planned for the middle of next week. ~S~ (Click HERE to e-mail me.)
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Feb 01 - 12:32 PM The Prayer List will be issued to the chain Thursday evening Mudcat time, so if there are additional requests, thanksgivings, or updates to add, please submit them. (Click HERE to e-mail me.) ~Susan
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 09:44 AM The prayer list will go out later today. (Apologies for missing last week.) Please e-mail me with any new requests, updates, or thanksgivings. ~Susan (Click HERE to e-mail me. Subject line: PRAYER.) |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 10 Mar 01 - 12:31 PM There are several "forwarded" requests out on the chain now that came in one at a time, but an update of the whole list is due Monday or Tuesday. So if there are new requests, updates, or thanksgivings, please submit via e-mail. Also available is the FAQ on this, via e-mail. Please specify if you want formatted Word attachment, or pasted e-mail text. (Click HERE to e-mail me. Subject line: PRAYER.) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 12 Mar 01 - 02:11 AM Last call for this weekend. Updated prayer list due out tomorrow AM. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: granny Date: 12 Mar 01 - 01:25 PM Hi, granny here. I just sent an e-mail to you from other address. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Mar 01 - 12:01 PM UPDATES In response to this thread, new prayer requests not posted in threads have come in, and several people have signed up to be part of the Prayer Chain. In addition, several requests for information have been sent in. The technical management of the prayer list has changed somewhat, and one prayer chain member found the changes a bit less personal than the way it had been done in the past. So now, new urgent requests are sent around the way I used to do them, and then periodically the whole list is edited into the table of current requests and this is sent around. It seems to be working well to ask people posting thread prayer requests if they want their request sent on to the Prayer Chain. There have been a few instances where the prayer of one has resulted in a reply from another, of support. I have forwarded these, but the main focus continues to be prayer as asked, rather than advice. It's been a real privilege to do my part of this. On "Prayer Chain" day, when the material is bing edited together, there is a sense I described to one person of a mighty fountain of care and attention that rushes up in pulsating plumes like a fountain. It goes right through me and goes on, up and away, in a delightful way that is quite invigorating for me. (I think my most accurate prayers, over the matters submitted, occur then.) And nearly every time the list is reworked, an amazingly compassionate request for a new prayer need comes in just before sending the list out, or a new prayer partner will join. These things tell me that we are doing something right. So I ask, Lord, what next, to make this work even better? I'd appreciate a couple of things. First, if you are a person who has asked for prayer, please send updates also, as things change. Especially, please send your thanksgivings for the blessings, large and small, that you notice occurring in the area for which prayer was asked. Not only is this a smart thing to do in practical terms, and not only is it what I understand God asks of us-- we all learn from one another's prayers and thanksgivings. Second, I could really use a Mudcat volunteer with edit functions to join this effort and help maintain this thread. This person would also hold a copy of the address book and administrative materials, so that the operation of this list does not depend on my health alone. Third, if you are a member of the Prayer Chain, please help keep this thread refreshed from time to time. You never know when the need may arise when I'm not looking. Thanks to all the people participating in this effort. (Click HERE to e-mail me. Subject line: PRAYER.) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 01 - 12:10 PM Why don't you go start your own prayer website! |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Mar 01 - 12:44 PM That is a very good question. It would certainly be easier to maintain that way and I have offered that option to the group a number of times. There is, in fact, a small site already set up with thread capability, should the expansion of the list make this necessary. There also has been the option of hanging the whole list up at Beliefnet. However, the reason it has not gone in either of these directions is simply this-- so far, people participating have preferred that it be done this way. You see, this has all evolved in response to requests, not because I was looking around for a thing to start. If I had been looking for a thing to start, this would not have been it, actually. *G* And when I do look for a new thing to start, it is usually not in cyberspace. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Apr 01 - 11:28 PM The revised prayer list is due out in the next few days, with one new item urgent. Please submit new requests, updates, and thanksgivings ASAP via e-mail. There is a link to my e-mail in the first post. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 17 May 01 - 11:49 AM Hardiman and I leave Sunday for a trip, and are coming back the 30th. We will be online a little. We may not have cookies, so maybe no PMs. If there are urgent requests in the meantime please use this Prayer Chain thread to ask us to be in touch. One of the Chain members has an old address book (the same as my old Hotmail prayer chain address book) but it does not contain all the latest people to join the Chain. (I don't have time to copy the new addresses to my Hotmail book or to one of you to act as backup this time, sorry.) So if you post a request for contact in the thread, either I or that person will likely respond with instructions where to e-mail your request.
To Prayer Chain members: And if any of you have a Mudcat Edit button, please let me know when I get back from our trip. Never think YOUR approach to prayer isn't "good enough" or "real." It matters more than we can know, I think, just as it is. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: hesperis Date: 19 Jun 01 - 04:30 PM How about putting the FAQs up on a website? That would make it a lot easier for people to see what the prayer chain is about without emailing you. Just a basic free site would do well for that. And you can blue clicky it from anywhere. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Jun 01 - 12:26 PM Thanks, hesperis. Actually I like the e-mailing... the contact leads, often, where it needs to go. I am full of thanks for the privilege of being trusted with all the confidences the prayer list has entailed, today, especially. One operational change is that I will tend to be taking weekends off from Prayer Chain matters, though, to take a Sabbath from it (*G*) and to focus better on the weekly music for our Saturday night service. If there is a volunteer to cover it on weekends for time-senstive requests, please let me know. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 27 Jun 01 - 12:48 PM Whats a prayer chain? Is it an American thing? I dont think we have it in uk. Can you pray for Catspaw to get well? |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Jun 01 - 04:48 PM John in Hull-- A prayer chain is simply a group of people who agree to pray for prayer requests that will be brought before them. In some chains, it works phone-to-phone, where each agrees to call the next member on the list and pass the prayer request along, and I guess then each one would pray with the next one on the list as they make the calls. Ours is an e-mail list, and yes, we have been praying for Catspaw since he requested it (or took me up on the offer, I don't recall which) for a long time. One of the nice things is that often, a lot of the people on the chain get the e-mail message at about the same time, and PFOOM! Up goes a lot of simultaneous spontaneous prayer. "Holding" one end of that, and getting the replies that sometimes come, is quite something-- packs a big wallop. That in turn elicits another burst of prayer from me. It's extremely cool! IMNSHO. Some of us also pray in song, meaning that as we mull over the matter put beore us, our prayer comes out in sung or played music. Sometimes a known piece, sometimes one made up or "given" to us in the moment. Whaddaya expect, from a bunch of folkies! *G* Others of us pray wordlessly.... or use pre-written prayer formats... or rosaries... It's all pretty loosely set up from that viewpoint... the assumption is that each person participating has or does a thing they think of as prayer, and that's how they participate. If you would like to know more please e-mail me at the link posted above and I'll send you the current FAQ. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Jul 01 - 11:12 AM Two reminders-- First, this prayer chain IS here for people to use as an alternative to posted prayer-request threads. Just use the e-mail link in the first post to send me your request. Second, because weekends are "work time" at our house, I will not see any new requests until Monday AM Mudcat time. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST,ENOUGH Date: 13 Jul 01 - 12:32 PM Worst news I've heard in a long while that this is back. I fervently pray that you'll take this prayer chain shite out of here. Immediately. Amen. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: TamthebamfraeScotland Date: 04 Aug 01 - 07:42 AM Dear Guest Enough, When you insult us we get more closer to heaven than you will ever get. So keeep the insults coming. God Bless |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST Date: 04 Aug 01 - 09:32 AM Wahl, Shee-oot, there Bug-Biter! if'n yew try agin yew maht git 'more closer' to the English language, too! If gittin yew more closer tew heaven gits yew further away from here with your Kristian Krapola, weel sew much tha better. Now piss off on out of here. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: SharonA Date: 04 Aug 01 - 10:50 AM busbitter: I've heard that saintliness gets you lots closer than sanctimoniousness does. :^) GUEST: Till the rapture comes 'round (yeah, right), we're stuck with 'em, so we might as well grin and bear it! Why click on a thread called "Prayer Chain" when you KNOW you're not going to like what you see there? Why not leave them unread, as you would a tract on a bus seat? |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Aug 01 - 11:39 PM A Draft Version of an expanded FAQ on the Prayer Chain is on view: |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 25 Aug 01 - 05:45 PM Guest Enough, in one of the earlier Monty Python sketches (here), a bedroom-furniture salesman put his head in a bag at any mention of the word "mattress". The remedy was for all available shop assistants and customers to stand in a tea-chest and loudly sing "Jerusalem." Unfortunately the sketch showed the remedy to be effective. Once enough people could be mustered to sing from the tea-chest, Salesman Lambert would remove the bag from his head. I say "unfortunately" because I assume it was this success that spawned prayer chains. Like many - maybe all - Mudcatters, I hope Spaw goes on to enjoy many years of rude good health. But maybe Praise could tell us how many prayers God likes to hear in a case like this, before he will consider direct intervention? I find the concept offensive. Any god who is responsive to such a numbers game should be treated with contempt, rather than be fawned upon by craven loons grovelling around on bended knee. (I trust that will help keep them feeling smug and self-righteous *G*) |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Aug 01 - 07:21 PM This thread is purely informational and is not intended as a place for debate. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: ard mhacha Date: 26 Aug 01 - 04:32 PM As a devout Atheist!!what the hell am I doing here. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST Date: 26 Aug 01 - 05:51 PM WYSIWYG Take your 'information' elsewhere - it's not wanted here. Jon Freeman has been kind enough to provide a place for you. Please use that and leave the rest of us alone to wend our happy way to burning for eternity in Hell. Your constant refreshing of this thread is not required. Any thread of this length, where 80% of the posts have been by one person (you), might properly be defined as 'spamming' Please desist Many thanks |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Aug 01 - 05:54 PM This thread is purely informational in nature and in fact the last information posted indicated that travel to the Experiemental Forum might be in order. The posts are all mine because it is I who cooridate the chain and I who know when it needs to be refreshed for the use of the participants in the prayer chain. Using this thread to protest its presence merely serves to keep it at the top of the list. Continue doing so if you wish, but again, the purpose of the thread is purely to provide information to the Mudcat members to whom it is of interest. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Peg Date: 26 Aug 01 - 07:26 PM But Susan, presumably those involved in the prayer chain are already in touch with you...aren't they? Can't you inform them another way? If they have internet access, presumably they also have email addresses; why have you not constructed a list for keeping touch with them?
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST Date: 26 Aug 01 - 07:49 PM Well said Peg! Not that Susan will listen - I fear that's beyond her capability Gutless and going to hell |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST Date: 26 Aug 01 - 07:54 PM Having said that, Susan, did construct an email list She quickly managed to, on more than one occasion, stuff that up too - alientating lots of people in the process Hardly suprising that she's chosen a 'forgiving' god to see her into eternity |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:08 PM Guest-Yes Jon has kindly provided us with an additional area where Mudcatters that wish to pray together can do so , but who the heck are you to tell Susan what is not wanted here? May I remind you there are around 10,000 members of this forum, and surely 1 thread once in a while can't do any harm. As many people have said before if you don't like the subject don't read the thread, this thread cleary states it's about praying, if that does not interest you then read a thread that does. I do not like rugby ( I prefer football), but I do not waste my time going to rugby matches and telling everybody that I don't like it, I let those that do like it enjoy it> Don't bother replying to me, I have no wish to enter into discussion on this matter, I have made my point and that's it.john |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: GUEST Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:22 PM john in Hull, I'm one of the majority of people here who get pissed off with Susan /Praise / WYSIWYG's incessent postings I would ignore Susan's posts if I could, but her unrelenting habit of refreshing threads to which she has nothing to add makes that somewhat difficult |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:27 PM No reply. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: Peter T. Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:39 PM Well, I don't use it (though heaven knows I need it), but it is interesting to hear how it is going. Some of us appreciate the flagging that this alternative is available: better than going into the weary battles we used to be in with this. The people who are doing this agreed to move this generally off the Mudcat. It is worth pointing out that this was a kindness. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Prayer Chain Update, FAQs From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:43 PM To repeat, the purpose of this thread is informational. The latest information is that the facts of the prayer chain's operation are posted for public view elsewhere outside this forum. It is an experimental forum and technical difficulties have caused it to go down from time to time, but it is there and when it is down it is not for long. These other extraneous posts only confuse people who tend to read just the last post of this thread when they are looking for fresh information. Continuing them will slow down people's moving over to the other forum which, I thought, is the whole point. So. Let's get that process back on track. The location of the Prayer Chain FAQ is: ~Susan |
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