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Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 01 - 11:10 PM Feng SHUI!!! SHUI!!! Whatsamaddah me?!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 01 - 11:03 PM Rick: Fang show is what angry huskies do to acheive dominance. I think you mean Feng Shi -- the ancient Chinese science of spaces and their arrangement to maximize life energy. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Rick Fielding Date: 24 Feb 01 - 10:59 PM Well can't think of any superstitions that concern me, but having done some acting (well they needed a musician who could speak some lines without bumping into the scenery) I sure came up against a lot. Watched someone say "MacBeth" (instead of "The Scottish Play") in a dressing room and get really dirty looks from the others. He had to go out and go through a ritual before they'd let him back. I thought it was ridiculous, but funny. Once I sat in another actor's chair at the make-up table, and got told off big time. I'd better be careful. Heather's just taken two Fang Show (how the Hell IS that spelled?) classes, and might be wanting to re-arrange the furniture so that the gods will be pleased. I'm NOT making jokes around her at the moment! Rick |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Bill D Date: 24 Feb 01 - 10:11 PM the end of a ladder 'might' set in a puddle of water, with no easy way around it, while the route UNDER the ladder might be dry and clear... your gambler might get his shoes wet and climb awkwardly in order to adhere to his superstition. As long as there seems to be no danger from falling paint buckets, etc...I would NOT get my shoes wet...(I guess that is sort of what Amos meant by "You look for yourself and figure it out and act accordingly..." ) |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Katcina Date: 24 Feb 01 - 09:44 PM Nope, not at all. Knock on wood. |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:47 PM Well, Greyeyes, I guess I stepped on your toes without really meaning to. Apologies. It is my opinion that one has a certain amount of spiritual strength, if you will, and that one of the ways it gets degraded and corroded is by not tending to one's own integrity, by taking on board opinions and beliefs not one's own out of fear, or a desire to be agreeable or likeable, or some other complicated reason. The "risk" of crossing a cat of any color is no greater than that of crossing the trail, say, of a dog of the same color. To my mind, avoiding risks that you really do not believe are there is a compromise with your own self-maintained, self-assured and self-generated rationality. It hinges on saying that you can't really know for yourself, and you have to watch out because others have told you that something is there for which you have no evidence, perception, experience, or measure other than that description. This places your power of reasoning in thehands of those who would perpetuate superstitions. A problematic source for reliable information, indeed. Trust yourself more than that! Regards, A |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:19 PM And what soul would that be Amos? |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:17 PM But Bill, if it MIGHT be unlucky to walk under a ladder, a gambling man would avoid walking under it, as there is, presumably, no potential benefit to be gained from walking under it, but much to lose. Unless you're suggesting that there may be possible repurcussions from NOT walking under it that we haven't been told about. Whatever, I'd still rather not take the risk, even though I don't believe any of it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:11 PM There's another risk Pascal didn't take into account: you let your God-given ability to see and understand the universe take second chair to mob thinkery -- especially on bizarre constructs like black cats and such -- and you sell your own soul down the river out of fear of mass opinion. Very unwise way to chart your course, IMHO. How about "You look for yourself and figure it out and act accordingly..." and the devil take the consequences? That's the path to survival on the Wilderness Trail. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:09 PM I'm sure I've never said "frankly what you think", another superstition I don't believe in, but always adhere to. Life can never be too complicated if you want to be safe, even if you don't believe in it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Bill D Date: 24 Feb 01 - 08:07 PM Pascal's wager had 4 parts...
1- you believe, it's true...you win so, it seems like it is safer not to take chances the problem is, Pascal didn't list all of the possibilities, IF a belief is true, (Pascal was mainly interested in the existence of God), there can be many other possible things which can follow...in the case of God, he can have a weird sense of humor, or the other humans may not have spelled out the rules clearly...etc... gotta be careful in these betting games where some parts of the odds are not clear...*grin* |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Amos Date: 24 Feb 01 - 07:55 PM Wow -- what a complicated life, Greyeyes! How do you keep track of all those steps? The only superstition I use regularly is that it is bad luck to say frankly what you think. But I learned that from experience!!!:>) A |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Greyeyes Date: 24 Feb 01 - 07:45 PM I don't BELIEVE any superstition, but using the same principle as Pascall's Wager, I don't walk under ladders, I avoid black cats, I whistle when I see a magpie, I'm particularly careful on Friday 13th, I avoid the number 13 generally, I NEVER step on the cracks in pavements (sidewalks) when in London (tho' fortunately I don't go there that much any more, and outside London of course it doesn't apply), I always throw salt when I spill it, I never put the sugar in before the milk when I'm making tea, and most importantly, I always make sure I'm out of the bathroom before the flush stops. |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Bill D Date: 24 Feb 01 - 07:22 PM I am not superstitious...though a few are based on reality..(walking under a ladder CAN be dangerous!)...but I clearly remember the times as a child when someone told me 'X' was bad luck..(stepping on a crack..etc.)...even then I wondered WHY it was supposed to be like that, and quickly developed a sceptical attitude |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: hesperis Date: 24 Feb 01 - 07:18 PM Well, walking under a ladder could be a very unsafe thing to do, if someone drops or spills stuff on your head. Paint, hammers, buckets of soapy water... who wants that? Aside from that, no, I'm not "superstitious". I only throw salt over my left shoulder if I spill it... Although I'm sure there are more that I do without even thinking. |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:50 PM Yes..........But don't ask about the whats and whys.............. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Hawker Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:29 PM Hear Hear! I also have 2 black cats and my daughter was born on February 13th, my husband passed both his car driving test and his motorcycle driving test on Fridays 13th.... Seems to be lucky for us too! Lucy |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: katlaughing Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:27 PM I've always made it a point to have a black cat and to love Friday the 13th, because it is always a good day for me, and breaking the mirror did not bring me 7 years bad luck, etc...personally, I think they are only as powerful as our belief in them...:-) kat |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: GUEST,Sarah2 ... at work Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:25 PM It's bad luck to move a broom. The broom belongs to the house, not the family. Don't know why, but I've always bought a new broom when I've moved. Sarah2 (2-/12 hours and I can GO HOME!!!!) |
Subject: RE: BS: Are you superstitious? From: Hollowfox Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:23 PM It's bad luck to be superstitious *g*. I've always found Friday the 13th to be a pretty good day for me, perhaps because so many people are being a bit more careful. |
Subject: Are you superstitious? From: Hawker Date: 24 Feb 01 - 05:03 PM When I was preparing tea this evening, my mind wandered (as it often does these days) to a time whe I was a child........ The wishbone on a chicken was a Sunday ritual - me and my sister, one either side, little finger of left hand clasped round the tiny bone and pulled 'till it snapped - whilst making a wish.(I must at this point ensure that you are all aware that this is a cooked chicken, not a live one, though now I personally prefer to abstain!) The one who gets the bit with the top piece intact supposedly got their wish to come true! I don't recall that ever being the case! I started to wonder......and remembered when pregnant, I was painting the new nursery, up a ladder, reaching to the ceiling, my grandmother-in-law went berserk and told me to get down off the ladder 'cos reaching up like that could put the cord round the baby's neck! What old wives tales / superstitions do you know, follow or believe? I don't walk under ladders, but I cannot tell you why! Is there any truth in them or are they just a load of mumbo jumbo created so that our elders can seem wiser than us!!!!!! Must go, there is a black cat about to cross my path! Lucy
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