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Subject: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's & '30's
From: GUEST,bobbybuzz
Date: 01 May 01 - 01:19 PM

Hi again. I'm looking for songs to play for my friends at the Nursing home. Been playing there for 5 yrs. now, and they're getting a little used to the dozen or so I have. Any links out there, MIDI or whatever? I'm getting a little better at reading music, can play most chords with no problem, but for some of these old tunes, it would help if I could hear the melody. I've been to MELODY LANE, but after getting one tune form there, I can't seem to get anymore. Thanks for any help.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: MMario
Date: 01 May 01 - 01:32 PM

well, I was going to reccomend MelodyLane - but if you are having problems with the site, I guess that is out.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: nutty
Date: 01 May 01 - 01:44 PM

These may help

CLICK HERE


CLICK HERE


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Hollowfox
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:22 PM

If you're in the USA, try going to your public library and looking at the Reader's Digest songbooks. My library's music collection isn't that great, but we have ten titles: Treasury of Best-Loved Songs, Popular Classics, Family Songbook, Festival of Popular Songs, etc.


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Subject: MIDI Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:26 PM

Melody Lane is a great site, but it's heavy on graphics and takes a long time to load some pages. It says it works best with Crescendo, but I have an intense hatred for Crescendo and the technical problems it causes. If you have Crescendo and you're having MIDI problems, I recommend that you go to Control Panel and uninstall Crescendo (ALWAYS use Control Panel's Add/Remove function to remove programs). I have Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5, and Windows Media Player 6.4, and Melody Lane plays the tunes for me very nicely.

I wish it were easier for me to troubleshoot MIDI problems from a distance. Many people have trouble playing the MIDI tunes from the Digital Tradition, even though they're able to play the tunes on the Mudcat MIDI Page. There's one MIDI page that everybody seems to be able to work with - Lesley's Contemplator Page. Take a look at the Contemplator and see if the tunes play for you there. Then try a few of the Mudcat MIDI tunes, and then some from the Digital Tradition. If all of those work, then go back to Melody Lane and wait a long time - maybe it's just the slow loading that's giving you fits.

Click here for leads to other MIDI sites you can check out. You can also find various MIDI sites listed on the Mudcat Links Page. Another site you may want to check is Public Domain Music, with MIDIs by Benjamin Robert Tubb.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: mousethief
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:41 PM

Also look at the Golden Oldies section in RUS. The footnotes list a bunch of songbooks from that era.

Alex


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:50 PM

bobbybuzz
I have the chords for Ain't she sweet(1927)
Among my Souvenirs(1927)
Carolina Moon (1928)
I can't give you anything but love(1928)
On the sunny side of the street (1930)
Side by side (1927)
Have you ever been lonely (1933)Stormy weather (1933)
Sweetheart of all my dreams (1926)
Will post them, with the words, if they're the sort of things you want.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: M.Ted
Date: 01 May 01 - 03:55 PM

At the risk of raising ire, I'll suggest that you download a copy of Napster and start searching for songs that you remember---there are an awful lot of old things that you would have trouble finding anywhere else there-- I am downloaded an old Nora Bayes side, "The Japanese Sandman"(The lyrics and a MIDI are at Melody Lane, but when you hear Nora Bayes sing it, you will know why people love the song!)

Also,it can be fun to do some homework--which really is to read a bit about the old times and events and performers--watch the old movies, and get a feel for what was popular when--and learn the songs that appeal to you--make a point of picking up some of those great compilation CD's that are available--it is important to remember the stuff that isn't listened to much anymore, because often, that's the stuff that brings back memories!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 May 01 - 04:12 PM

Ah, there's a point, M. Ted - "watch the old movies." Anything with the name "Astaire" or "Gene Kelly," for instance. I almost feel like I'm cheating when I watch the three "That's Entertainment" movies and "That's Dancing" - they show the "good parts" of so many of the best of the movie musicals. I wonder when those movies will come out on DVD and make it easy for me to find my favorite song-and-dance numbers.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:01 AM

I have two songbooks that address the time period you are interested in:

SINGALONG FUNFEST, a Hal Leonard Songbook with pull-out lyric sheets. More than 30 playable guitar arrangements, melody line and piano accompaniment.

SING SESSION SONGBOOK, a Warner Bros. songbook with optional lyric booklets. Over a hundred items. Piano and guitar arrangements, but too many chord changes and odd keys. Also the vocal line is not separated out-- the melody is within the piano part.

Even with both of these, I agree-- not really knowing how the songs are supposed to go is a big problem.

But-- GOOD NEWS! You CAN get your hands on people who know how they go. And you CAN find recordings.

LIVE MENTORS. Next time you go to the nursing home to play, ask the people who come to hear you what they WISH you would play-- they will tell you! (They may even be able to sing them for you, so have a tape recorder handy.) Take note of the song names and go find those to start on.

Most every nursing home my pastor husband has ever conducted services for has at LEAST one resident who had been an active piano player, and usually singers too. Ask your place's activities director to hook you up with someone who can teach you these songs, and work with them to make a practice tape. If YOUR place has no one like this, call around. Someone will dress up in her Sunday best and give you the afternoon of your life!

Another place to find someone would be the larger local churches-- organists or choir directors who will either know these songs or will know a choir member or someone else who does. Solicit the help of the church secretary to contact the people to talk with about this.

Even if you cannot find someone to TEACH you the songs, you CAN find a resident who will tell you which ones to learn first and whether you are doing it RIGHT.

Local senior center? Ask the director for help finding a piano player to teach you the songs.

RECORDINGS. The library, or a flea market, for a start. I am lucky-- I live near a flea market where the owner has been collecting boatloads of old LPs and 78's. He rents them. But surely some are in re-issue as CD's by now... look online. Also try E-bay for collectible LP's.

OTHER SONGBOOKS. Do not discount the EZ Play keyboard books that are all over the sheet music stores right now. They have collections for every kind of music there IS. Look for an older employee to help you find the book for you... or take a nursing home resident along on a field trip! A cheap keyboard with rhythm capabilities can help you get a feel for how the songs should be done-- since the book will tell you what settings to use. Then you take the guitar and adapt the arrangement for your range. The EZ Play books do have chords indicated... great way to learn to read music better, too.

Try any or all of these ideas and you'll be cookin' in no time. And do not worry if you only learn one new one each time you go to play at the nursing home-- you'll make them so happy they will not be disappointed that you are just learning their music.

Good luck!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: M.Ted
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:17 AM

Just remembered something, and that is Band-in-a-Box, which is a great program that runs on either Mac or Windows--you can either type chords in or simply chose one of about 500 songs from the songbook--plays an accompaniment, with melody, with highlighted lyrics and chords on the screen--you can push a button and change the key, and of course, you can sing along. Even better, you can print out the chords on the screen, and the lyrics--it is not free-ware, but it only costs 50-60 bucks(I have had mine for eight years, and still use it a lot). The thing is, it sounds a lot like a real band---


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Helen
Date: 02 May 01 - 09:15 AM

Try this really good site. I go back regularly - just to listen, and often to download. The arrangements, and the songs they have chosen, are very good.


Click here

http://www.smickandsmodoo.com/

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 01 - 09:49 AM

Helen, is that link right? I tried to go there to cross reference with the songbooks I have and didn't get there.

~S~


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Subject: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's & 30's
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 02 May 01 - 10:29 AM

You may also find this link enjoyable.

Old time Victrola Music at:

http://www.besmark.com/


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: PaulBobbyBuzz
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:40 PM

Wowee wow wow wow! I knew you guys would come thru for me; what a treasure-trove of information. The comments about the residents are all right on; I've become close to many of them, and already do a number of their personal favorites. The residents of the Low-Stress(a.k.a. Alzheimer's) unit are the BEST!!!! Music is the universal language, to be sure; and it is timeless. Altho' many of them can't remember breakfast, they smile & sing along with so many of the classics; "She'll Be Comin' 'round the Mountain('yee-haw'), "When the St.s Go Marching In", and #1 favorite "You Are My Sunshine". Those of you who participate in this music ministry know that we get as much from it as they do. I've pulled some from the Reader's Digest Collections; Willa, thanks for the offer; I'll let you know. I still need to get tunes for the ones I can hear in my head but can't quite get. And, if you're interested, I could post some of the stuff I've got.(about 30-35 tunes). Susan...THANK YOU! So much input...I do work with one of the activity aides, and have tapped the EZ books. What an idea...tape recording the residents...hmmmm! You've got the wheels turning. There is a guy who's written a couple books (and audio too I think) of recordings he has made over the years of our elders. His work is a masterpiece! Thank you all for the help and the MIDI sites...God bless the musician in ALL of us...PBB


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 01 - 03:43 PM

AND WELCOME TO MUDCAT. Just joined? Check out the FAQ, chock full of good info you can count on.

Where you at?

Do ya have those songbooks? Do you want to borrow them?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 May 01 - 04:34 AM

Hi, PBB - I think it was Willie Nelson who introduced me to the popular music of the first half of the 20th century. Take a listen to his classic "Stardust" album, along with many other Willie Nelson recordings of the "old chestnuts." Great stuff.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY LITTLE BIMBO (DOWN ON THE BAMBOO...)^^
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 04 May 01 - 02:13 AM

My Little Bimbo is in the "Digitrad". and they'll play the tune too. But, they only have one verse. Here's the other./ Almopst anyone who was around in the 20's will remember this one, I think it was the first Genuine Million copy seller.

MY LITTLE BIMBO.

Sailor Bill McCoy was a handsome sailor boy
His ship got wrecked awhile, on a Fiji Iji Isle.
He led a savage life and he hunted with a knife
He said, "I'll tell you all about it, don't tell my wife, because

(Chorus)
I've got a Bimbo down in the bamboo isles.
She's waiting there fr me, beneath a bamboo tree/
Believe me,
She's got all the other Bimbo's beat a mile,
She dances daily, gayly, she'd make a hit with Barnum Bailey
I'll build a bungalow in the Bamboo Isle,
'Cause when I go again, I'll stay awhile.
I've seen wrecks, plenty of wrecks oput on the ragin' sea.
But, by heck, you've never seen a wreck like the wqreck she made of me.
And, all she wore was a reat big Zulu smile,
My little Bimbo Down in the Bamboop Isle.

IIWilliam's boss said, "Bill, a Captain's job you'll fill
On a ship that's going North, today it's going forth."
A Captain's job is fine, but Bill said, "I'll decline,
I'll Take half pay as a sailor on that ship of mine" ..'Cause......
I've got a Bimbo Down in the Bamboo Isle.
She's waiting there for me beneath a bamboo tree,
Believe me, she's got all the other Bimbo's beat a mile.
She dances daily. gayly She plays a mean Ukelele.
I'll build a bungalow in the bamboo Isle,
"Cause when I go again, I'll stay a while
"What's that? What's a Bimbo mean? Please take my advice.
I don't know what "Bimbo" means, but I think it's something nice.
Everybody loves her, even the crockadiles,
MY LITTLE BIMBO (DOWN ON THE BAMBOO ISLE).^^

Click for sheet music

at The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music.


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Subject: Lyr Add: OH! BY JINGO! (OH BY GEE, YOU'RE THE...^^
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 04 May 01 - 03:20 AM

Continued from last "reply"

This song (My little Bimbo) was a popular song, not a folk song. Most of the people (lovely souls that they are) are "Folk Song" afficionato's, but, it is very probable that the people in a nursing home are not. (I could be wrong) Ilearned these from my Dad who was born in 1898, and my Mom (who's still alive and kickin') The following is another song that was extremel;y popular in the 20's. If you E=Mail me your adress, I'll send you a tape or CD of the very record my E mail adress is CRANKYYANKEEJG@aol.com. or you can send me a P.M. here at the "mudcat". Here's one verse anyway. Oh, there's a line here and there that is not sung or played, instead, tap out the rhythm ,"BOOM-CHIKA-BOOM CHIKA-BOOM CHICKA-BOOM," on the side or top of your guitar, and "Say" the words, "boom-chika-boom chicka-boom chika-boom." along with it. You should get the idea when you read the lyrics. Here goes.............Oh, I forgot, the "ya....ya...yata...yata....ya....ya...ya..." is sung , "A-capella" (as indicated. ) This one is worth the effort to learn, it's a sure fire "Old timers crowd pleaser"

OH, BY JINGO

I
Out in the land of San Domingo,
Lived a girl named "Oh By Jingo"

YA.YA..YATA YATA YA..YA..Boom-chika-boom chika boom chika boom.
From the hills and from the Marshes, came the little, "Oh By Goshes"
Ya...ya...yata yata ya ya ..Boom-chika-boom chika boom chika boom.
They all spoke with a certain "Lingo"
And they all loved "Oh by Jingo"
And every night, they sang in the pale moonlight,

(chorus
"Oh by Jingo, Oh by Gosh , by Gee"
Buzz around, Buzz around, keep a-Buzzin' round,
Oh By Jingo, Gee what you do to me.
We can build a little hut
You will be my favorite nut
Well have a lot o' little "Oh By Gollies" and we'll put them in the "Follies"
Oh,By Jingo, Oh by Gosh, By Jove
Oh By Jingo, Gee won't you be my love?"
Then they all ran around singin', "Oh by Jingo"
"Gee by Gosh, by Jimminee Ringo"
"Oh by Jingo, Gee you're the one for me."

I'll also send you a tape or CD of , There'll be Bluebirds over the White Cliffs of Dover."
(1939-1940 or so) which I KNOW they all will remember. it was a song of "Desperate Hope" during the darkest days of WWII when no one was sure whether or not Great Brittain would survive. Things were so bad that the English people were sending their children away to the US and Canada, hoping that they, at least would survive. The first time I heard this song on the radio I was 10 years old (My dad was 42). I looked over at him and he had tears in his eyes, so I, of course, cried my little heart out. Make no mistake about this. Our supplies kept the U.K. and the Soviet Union alive, and if Great Brittain had fallen, we would not have come out of the war unscathed as we did. The German people are a very resourcefull, courageous and strong people who, unfortunately, followed a leader who took them to the very brink of total destruction. And, that's what this song is all about. (I'll see if this is in the digitrad and if it isn't I'll be right back) (You will very definitely want to learn this one) "

Click for sheet music at The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WHITE CLIFFS OF DOVER^^
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 04 May 01 - 03:37 AM

The White Cliffs of Dover.

I
I'll never forget the people I met
Braving those angry skies
I remember well as the shadows fell
sThe light of hope in their eyes
And though I'm far way, I still can hear them say,
"Thumbs Up, 'Cause when the dawn comes up

(chorus)
There'll be bluebirds over The White cliffs of Dover
Tomorrow, just you wait and see
There'll be love and laughter and peace ever after
Tomorrow when the world is free.
The Shepherd will tend his sheep
The valley will bloom again
And Jimmy will go to sleep
In his own little room again
There'll be bluebirds over the White cliffs of Dover
Tomorrow just you wait and see.


You're right, this is a "soul satisfying" pastime, Donna and I have been down that road also .

Kindest regards

Jody Gibson
Newport, Rhode Island.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: M.Ted
Date: 04 May 01 - 11:08 AM

Three unforgettable songs--of the "This one of those songs that you thing you forgot, but one of those songs you cannot catagory" thanks for posting them!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: PaulBobbyBuzz
Date: 04 May 01 - 11:20 AM

Thanks guys...Joe, I agree about Willie's "Stardust" album; I pulled 4-5 off that gem. Jody...love the lyrics to My Little Bimbo; tried to hear it, but no luck. Let me 'splain...I'm running an iMac(yeah yeah I've heard it before) and Quicktime is my player. I got a broken URL link when I tried to play it; same thing happens(I think) at Melody Lane. I'm looking into other players, hope to find one soon. Off to search the sites you've offered.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 04 May 01 - 03:19 PM

There are other "pop" 20''s, 30's &40's songs that my dad used to sing. When I get the time, probably this evening, I'll send some more. From the middle 30's on, I remember them as "Popula songs" AND I KNOW A LOT OF SONGS.So, over the next couple of weeks I'll either scan and send the sheet music, or put together a tape (or CD) of sure fire "The old folks will love them" songs. After all, I'm now IN the (Chronological) old folks category, and I know what I'd like to hear if I were in a nursing home, which I'm not.here are a whole lot of songs that the "present generation" people know the chorus to and none of the verses. For instance, "The Bowery" "The Band Played on". etc. When I was younger, we had a longer attention span, I guess, and the verses to a lot of the old "pop" or "traditional" songs are dynamite.

If you have the time, find a printed copy of "Home on the range" with all 5 verses. There's some beautiful poetry there. Excuse me a minute while I look in the Digitrad, I'll be right back.

Jody


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 04 May 01 - 03:39 PM

There are other "pop" 20''s, 30's &40's songs that my dad used to sing. When I get the time, probably this evening, I'll send some more. From the middle 30's on, I remember them as "Popula songs" AND I KNOW A LOT OF SONGS.So, over the next couple of weeks I'll either scan and send the sheet music, or put together a tape (or CD) of sure fire "The old folks will love them" songs. After all, I'm now IN the (Chronological) old folks category, and I know what I'd like to hear if I were in a nursing home, which I'm not.here are a whole lot of songs that the "present generation" people know the chorus to and none of the verses. For instance, "The Bowery" "The Band Played on". etc. When I was younger, we had a longer attention span, I guess, and the verses to a lot of the old "pop" or "traditional" songs are dynamite.

If you have the time, find a printed copy of "Home on the range" with all 5 verses. There's some beautiful poetry there. Excuse me a minute while I look in the Digitrad, I'll be right back.

Jody

"Home on the range is in the digitrad,with all the verses. "The Bowery" is listed in the index of the Digitrad, but the song "The Bowery" isn't, all the lyrics under that index heading are of songs that refer to the Bowery, such as, "She's More to be Pitied than Censured", another sure fire hit. , I'll include "the Bowery on he tape I'm going to put together for you. Here's some background on this song.

A "Bowery" is a place where anchors are made and/or stored. The "Bower" is the big anchor that is carried in the bow of a ship. New York City's "Bowery" section was once a very popular "hang out" there were music halls, theaters, etc. And, then someone wrote a song entitled "The Bowery, citing several examples of swindlers, drunken brawls, etc. The public BELIEVED these stories to be true, people quit going to the Bowery and from that time on, it was N.Y.'s "skid row". I've got to get off the line for a moment, Donna has to use the phone.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: PaulBobbyBuzz
Date: 05 May 01 - 01:36 PM

Jody, you're so right. Most of us only know the chorus to so many of these old songs. I watch the lips of some of the residents and I see some of the verse lyrics sometimes, especially "You Are My Sunshine", but much more recognition of the choruses. I got "Home on the Range"(yeah, all 5 verses) from "The All-American Songbook" copyright 1942(cost 95c!!!) It's great for the lyrics and music, but no chords(my preferred way of learning a new tune, along with an audio recording of some type).That's why I'm looking at some of the MIDI sites, and will resort to Napster(just got White Cliffs of Dover from there). I'll post a list of the songs I now have, and if anyone's interested I can (in my rookie Cyber-way) send them along(lyrics & chords). I am in the second half of my personal century, and if I were in a nursing home right now, I'd want Neil Young, Jimmy Buffett, Don Henley, Beatles, etc. But that's all for another post & another time. Thanks again and "keep it in 'A' " as my jammin' buddy used to say. PBB


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Bert
Date: 06 May 01 - 04:14 PM


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sing-a-long songs from the '20's &
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 May 01 - 03:57 AM

Hi, Jody - here's The Bowery (click). If you search for "Bowery," you'll get every single song we have that has that one word (Bowery). I searched for "never go there any more," and it came right up.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: ADD Verses: The Bowery ^^
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 08 May 01 - 12:43 AM

hI JOE OFFER Her're two more verses to the Bowery, there is another, but I don't sing it because the phrase"New Coon in Town" is in it, yeah, I know, take into consideration when it was written and "The riggs of the time". But I don't like it anyway, Here're the other two.

III
I went into an auction store
I'd never seen any thieves before
First they sold me a pair of socks
Then they asked, "How much for the box"?
Someone said,"two dollars," I said "Three".
He emptied the box and gave it to me
"I sold you the box, not the sox", said he
And I'll never go there anymore.

IV
Then I went into a barber shop,
He talked so much I thought he'd never stop
I said, "Cut it short", he misunderstood
cut my hair short as he possibly could
Shaved me with a razor that scratched like a pin
Took off my wiskers and most of my chin
That was the worst scrape I've ever been in
And I'll never go there anymore.


I'd send you the music if I knew how to send scanned images. It says, "words by Chas. Hoyt, music by Percy Gaunt" Hell, Joe, I don't even know how to do the "Click here" thing, or even to get the printer to print what's on the screen accurately. But, nevertheless, I really like this machine mostly because I get to shoot the shit with you lot,. My Dad told me about how the Bowery went to the dogs because of this song. Maybe I'll learn how to do the things you do as I gop along, I sure hope so./ I found "Gunga Din " Just by typing "Gunga Din" in the "Keyword" box and clicking "Go".

Why don't they write these programs in everyday English?

regards, Jody.^^


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Subject: ADD Verses: The Bowery ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 May 01 - 03:11 AM

Here's the whole thing, Jody. We usually try to post the whole song when verses are added - that way, they end up in the correct order. I added the "Coon" verse - we try to post the complete, original, unsanitized versions of songs. Thanks.
-Joe Offer-
THE BOWERY
(words Charles H. Hoyt, Music Percy Gaunt)

Oh! The night that I struck New York
I went out for a quiet walk
Folks who are "on to" the city say
Better by far that I took Broadway
But I was out to enjoy the sights
There was the Bow'ry ablaze with lights
I had one of the devil's own nights
I'll never go there any more.

cho: The Bow'ry, the Bow'ry
They say such things and they do strange things,
On the Bow'ry! The Bow'ry!
I'll never go there any more.

I had walked but a block or two,
When up came a fellow and me he knew;
Then a policeman came walking by
Chased him away and I asked him, "Why?"
"Wasn't he pulling your leg?" said he,
Said I, "He never laid hands on me!"
"Get off the Bow'ry, you Yep (fool)!" said he
I'll never go there any more.

I went into an auction store,
I never saw any thieves before;
First he sold me a pair of socks
Then said he, "How much for the box"?
Someone said,"two dollars," I said "Three."
He emptied the box and gave it to me,
"I sold you the box, not the socks," said he,
I'll never go there any more.

I went into a concert hall,
I didn't have a good time at all;
Just the minute that I sat down
Girls began singing "New Coon in Town,"
I got up mad and spoke out free,
"Somebody put that man out," said she;
A man called a bouncer attended to me,
I'll never go there anymore.

I went into a barber shop,
He talked till I thought he would never stop
I said, "Cut it short," he misunderstood
Clipped down my hair just as close as he could;
He shaved with a razor that scratched like a pin,
Took off my whiskers and most of my chin;
That was the worst scrape I ever got in
I'll never go there any more.

I struck a place that they called a "dive,"
I was in luck to get out alive
When the policeman heard my woes,
Saw my black eyes and my battered nose.
"You've been held up!" said the "copper" fly!
"No, sir! But I've been knocked down!" said I;
Then he laughed, tho' I couldn't see why!
I'll never go there any more.


note: From a musical show "A Trip to Chinatown," 1892
Transcribed from the original sheet music, reproduced in "Favorite Songs of the Nineties" (Dover Publications, 1973)

filename[ BOWERY
play.exeÿBOWERY
RG JG JRO
OCT98

From The Wordsworth Dictionary of Phrase and Fable:
The Bowery. (Dutch bouwerij, a farm) A densely populated cosmopolitan street in New York City which runs through the former farm or bouwerij, of Governor Peter Stuyvesant (1592-1672). Noted for its many cheap lodging houses, saloons, and shops, it was once the haunt of the notorious ruffians called the "Bowery Boys."


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 12 Nov 01 - 02:36 AM


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 12 Nov 01 - 02:40 AM

^oops
One tune that I love to sing for/with the older folk, I like to introduce by asking everyone--nursing home staff and all--to join in as soon as they recognize the song. This one, with a beautiful lyric and melody, goes unrecongnized until the chorus, and is then universally recognized. It's "Put on your old grey bonnet" which I *think* is from about 1908.
Love the thread.
Dennis


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Nov 01 - 10:29 PM

"I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles" is another one.
"Wait 'Til The Sun Shines Nellie" earlier but most know the chorus.
"I Don't Want to Play In Your Yard" also earlier but popular.
This is a great thread. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Genie
Date: 02 Aug 02 - 03:49 AM

Here are some very popular songs that were written in the 1920s or 1930s and have survived very well:

Here are some songs that were written in the '20s/'30s which have "survived" over the decades:

5'2 (Has Anybody Seen My Gal?)
Ain't Misbehavin'
Ain't She Sweet?
All Of Me
Always
Any Time
Are You Lonesome Tonight?
As Time Goes By
Baby Face
Basin Street Blues (may be older)
Beer Barrel Polka
Blue Hawaii
Blue Moon
Blue Skies
Brother, Can You Spare A Dime?
Button Up Your Overcoat
Bye-bye, Blackbird
Bye-bye, Blues
Dream A Little Dream Of Me
Georgia
Harbor Lights
Have You Ever Been Lonely?
Heart And Soul
Heart Of My Heart
I'll Get By
I'm Lookin' Over A Four-Leaf Clover
I'm Sitting On Top Of The World
If You Knew Susie
It Ain't Necessarily So
It Had To Be You
It's A Sin To Tell A Lie
It's Only a Paper Moon
Jeepers, Creepers!
Just Because
Lazy Bones
Lovesick Blues
Makin' Whoopee
Marie
Me And My Shadow
My Blue Heaven
My Buddy
My Funny Valentine
My Happiness
Nice Work If You Can Get It
Our Love Is Here To Stay
Over The Rainbow
Paper Doll
Red Sails In The Sunset
San Antonio Rose
Second-hand Rose
September In The Rain
September Song
Shanty In Old Shanty Town
Side By Side
Someone To Watch Over Me
Sonny Boy
Stardust
Stormy Weather
Summertime
Swanee
Tea For Two
The Glory Of Love
Them There Eyes
They Can't Take That Away From Me
Three Little Fishes
Up A Lazy River


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Genie
Date: 03 Aug 02 - 03:29 AM

When The Red, Red Robin Goes Bob-bob-bobbin' Along.


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: GUEST,nanabutch@paradise.net.nz
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 11:38 PM

I am wanting to know who wrote TEA FOR TWO?

Joan


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 11:55 PM

Hi, Joan - music for "Tea for Two" was by Vincent Youmans, lyrics by Irving Caesar, published 1924.
-Joe Offer (e-mail sent)-


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Subject: RE: Sing-along songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Genie
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 12:08 AM

and it's from the Broadway musical "No, No, Nannette."


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: GUEST,Frankham
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 03:20 PM

Hi Bobby,

We do a lot of senior assisted living programs and nursing homes. The aforementioned song titles are mostly good but bear this in mind please. Long jazz ballads are best avoided such as My Funny Valentine. Older people have a propensity for going to sleep. Keep it up beat. They like young energy. Depending on the facility or home, they probably like religious type music such as spirituals, gospel tunes and the like unless they are Jewish. Songs in Yiddish, Hebrew, uptempo Israeli songs are in order and stay away from Christian oriented material.

Light, jazzy, bouncy tunes work best and a few plaintive melodies such as "Let Me Call You Sweetheart" and Irving Berlin's "Always" or "Beautiful Ohio" ....songs that have a melodic accessibility work.

If you really want their attention, you might do some homework and tell them about the backgrounds of the songs you choose. Some have fascinating histories and life stories behind the songwriters such as Irving Berlin etc. Also, the stories behind the "stars" who sang these songs such as Jolson, Cantor, Kate Smith, Rudy Vallee and others who were on the radio at that time.

Don't sing (as a general rule) esoteric material that requires too many footnotes such as Child Ballads or chain gang songs. And avoid the singer-songwriter styled songs that you hear nowadays. Generally, a lead balloon. Early rock and roll works such as early Elvis, Buddy Holly ,Chuck Berry. Avoid "rap" and "hip hop", heavy metal or any music that's angry entirely. The exception might be a labor song depending on where you play. If you can supply useful information about the latter, it might work occasionally. Many people remember the Depression and unions. It opens up a lot of memories.

That's the key. Open the memory doors.

I would stay away from songs with racist overtones.

Frank




It's a very rewarding work and if you can get them on their feet dancing, you'll be called back.

Frank


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Subject: RE:Sing-along songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Genie
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 03:41 PM

Just so you folks who are seriously looking for songs to play (or not play) in nursing homes, my "Songs NOT to sing in nursing homes" thread" was intended as a JOKE!

Please don't think that I don't sing "Don't Fence Me In" (which is, BTW, not from the 20s or 30s) at nursing homes. I do it all the time!

Genie


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: M.Ted
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 05:01 PM

Genie,

"Don't Fence Me In" was written by Cole Porter in 1935 for a movie soundtrack, but it was not used, and "sat on the shelf" at Harms Music for ten years before it was recorded and made popular by Roy Rogers--The lyrics were reworked from another song of the same name, written by one Bob Fletcher, a film studio asked Porter to re-work it, and Fletcher assigned him the rights to the lyrics, which he tighted up considerably and accompanied with a new melody--When the song was officially published, Fletcher's name inadvertantly was left off, but Porter immediately had the error corrected--

Claims that Porter did not write the song occasionally come up, but Porter always shared the credit for the lyrics with Fletcher--I have a copy of Fletcher's original lyrics though, and Porter's editing changed the feel considerably--


Probably more than you ever needed or wanted to know;-)


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Helen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:22 PM

Listen to the David Byrne (of Talking Heads) version of Don't Fence Me In, for an inspirational mambo twist to an old song.

Also, I only just read WYSIWYG's note that the

      Smick and Smodoo

http://www.smickandsmodoo.com/

link may not have been working. (I'm only a couple of years late, give me a break!) I just checked it and it is still the same. It really is one of my favourite midi sites, ranking equal first with Lesley Nelson's Contemplator site.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Genie
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 10:44 PM

M.Ted, when I said the song was not from the 30s, I was referring to when the public became aware of it and embraced it.

There are several previous threads that discuss Fletcher's contribution.

Click here

and here

and here

Some versions of the story say that Porter wanted to share authorship credit all along, but his publishers would not allow it -- until Fletcher got legal help.

BTW, Frankham, "My Funny Valentine," "It Had To Be You," "Harbor Lights," "Somewhere, My Love," "Edelweiss," and other slow ballads are among the songs I find most requested at both retirement and nursing homes. "Let Me Call You Sweetheart" (popular in the 20s but introduced to the public earlier) has gotta be in the top 5 most requested songs for this group, and they like it slow. I do include a lot of upbeat songs, but, I get more complaints about not slowing songs down enough for these folks than I ever do about singing too many slow songs or playing too slowly.

But getting folks to move is great.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Nathan in Texas
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 11:16 PM

One thing to consider is that most people in nursing homes these days have no firsthand recollections of songs of the 20s. They may know and enjoy them, as any of us might enjoy songs written before we wer born.But they were most likely born in the twenties. The songs of their youth would be songs of the forties and even fifties. So don't think they enjoy songs from the 20s more than later songs. I recently played at home for "Senior Living" and got the best response for "Fever" which was recorded by Peggy Lee in the 50s.


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Subject: Lyr Add: IF YOU KNEW SUSIE (LIKE I KNOW SUSIE)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 01:00 AM

Copied from http://persweb.direct.ca/fstringe/oz/i5888.html

IF YOU KNEW SUSIE (LIKE I KNOW SUSIE)
Words & music by B. G. De Sylva, 1925.

I have got a sweetie known as Susie.
In the words of Shakespeare, she's a "wow."
Though all of you may know her, too,
I'd like to shout right now:

If you knew Susie like I know Susie,
Oh! Oh! Oh! What a girl!
There's none so classy
As this fair lassie.
Oh! Oh! Holy Moses, what a chassis!
[We went riding. She didn't balk.
Back from Yonkers, I'm the one that had to walk.]*
If you knew Susie like I know Susie,
Oh! Oh! what a girl!

Susie has a perfect reputation.
No one ever saw her on a spree.
Nobody knows where Susie goes.
Nobody knows but me.

If you knew Susie like I know Susie,
Oh! Oh! Oh! What a girl!
She wears long tresses
And nice tight dresses.
Oh! Oh! What a future she possesses!
[Out in public, how she can yawn!
In a parlor, you would think the war was on.]*
If you knew Susie like I know Susie,
Oh! Oh! What a girl!

[*VARIANTS:
I had a mustache as cute as a pup,
Susie kissed me and she burned the darn thing up.

Out in public, she's meek and mild,
But in the parlor, mother dear, come save your child!

[The Virtual Gramophone has a recording by The Happiness Boys (Billy Jones & Ernest Hare) made in 1925. The recording starts off with some lame patter, but when they start singing, they really cook! They get nearly orgasmic on the "Oh! Oh! Oh!" parts.]


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Subject: Lyr Add: IF YOU WERE THE ONLY GIRL IN THE WORLD
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 08:52 AM

IF YOU WERE THE ONLY GIRL IN THE WORLD (AND I WERE THE ONLY BOY)
Words, Clifford Grey. Music, Nat D. Ayer. 1916.

VERSE: Sometimes when I feel bad and things look blue,
I wish a pal I had, say, one like you.
Someone within my heart to build a throne,
Someone who'd never part to call my own.
[I'll cry a ..., dear, fond and true.
I'll sigh a ... to reach, dear, just made for me and you.]*

CHORUS: If you were the only girl in the world and I were the only boy,
Nothing else would matter in the world today.
We could go on loving in the same old way.
A Garden of Eden just made for two, with nothing to mar our joy--
I would say such wonderful things to you.
There would be such wonderful things to do,
If you were the only girl in the world and I were the only boy.

[VERSE 2: No one I'd ever care for, dear, but you.
No one I'd fancy there for [to?] love me too.
Your eyes can set me dreaming all night long.
Your eyes have set me scheming, right or wrong.]**

[The Virtual Gramophone has a recording by Henry Burr from 1917. *I found these lines only in the Burr version.

[This First World War site has a duet version sung by Violet Lorraine and George Robey in 1916. (The performance is overwrought, in my opinion.) **I found these lines only in the Lorraine/Robey version.]


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: M.Ted
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 11:25 AM

Thanks for the lyrics, Jim--they go into the permanent collection--

A bit late to comment, perhaps, but Nathan's thinking is wrong in a couple of respects--first, there are many, many, folks in nursing homes who were teenagers and adults for some portion of the twenties, second, that people who were born in the twenties have direct "firsthand" memories of those songs, just the way that those of us born in the 50's have direct "firsthand" memories of Elvis, Frankie Laine, The Weavers, etc--and, third, that many songs introduced in the 20's continued to be popular for many years after, in recordings, in movies, on television, in clubs, etc. and were not even considered to be "oldies" or nostalgia--in fact, many of the songs that were popular standards in the 50's had been written in the 20's and 30's--


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 01:27 PM

You're right, M.Ted. I think popular songs had a longer "shelf life" in the past than they do today.

There was a lot more homemade music in the past. If people liked a song, they would buy the sheet music and learn to play it, usually on the piano. Once you've put that much energy into learning a song, you don't abandon it as quickly as people abandon songs today, in favor of something newer.

Arrangements were simpler, and weren't considered an integral part of the song. (Nowadays, LAYLA wouldn't be considered the same song without the guitar riff, unless Eric Clapton rearranged it himself.) It was easier for lots of musicians to "cover" a song—although they probably didn't use the word "cover" because there was less feeling that a song belonged to the person who first recorded it. In the 50s, people like Dinah Shore or Steve Lawrence & Eydie Gorme made their careers by covering other people's songs—if it's even appropriate to call them "other people's songs."

Sometimes an old Broadway show would be revived, causing an old song to revive in popularity. IF YOU KNEW SUSIE, for example, became Eddie Cantor's theme song, and he would sing at least a few lines of it, rather like "bumper music" every time he appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show in the 50s and maybe 60s.

Somewhere along the line, though, it became fashionable to sing only the chorus, not the verse, and so a lot of old popular songs had their verses forgotten. That's why I think it's fun to hear these old recordings with the verses intact.


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: M.Ted
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 02:03 PM

Exactly so, Jim--I love the verses. I also miss the days when songs were written for people to play and sing, rather than as vehicles for recording artists--Generally, if a song was popular, several different artists would record it. In fact, in beginning, recordings were not cross compatible,so if you wanted a recording of a particular song, you had to buy one made by an artist who recorded for your phonograph company.

As I understand it, the trend toward singing the choruses only came about on radio variety shows--in order to fit more material into the shows, they simply shortened the songs--Some of those old shows were only five or ten minutes long, and they had to cut things down a lot to allow for opening and closing theme, commercials and a little chatter-I have a couple airchecks from old country radio shows, and the songs were often only a minute and a half or so long--


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Subject: RE: Req: Sing-a-long songs from the 20's & 30's
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 03:03 PM

well - granted that I grew up in a town that was several decades behind a lot of the world - but there were a lot of the 2o's and 30's songs that were still being played and sung at our community sing-alongs in the 60's. yup - we still had weekly band concerts in the summer - a good portion of the town's population would show up - frequently with picnic suppers - and sing. Likewise both WWI and WWII songs -


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Subject: Lyr Add: PRETTY BABY (Kahn/Jackson/Van Alstyne)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 May 04 - 11:11 PM

Lyrics from Duke University's 'Historic American Sheet Music' collection:

PRETTY BABY
Words, Gus Kahn. Music, Tony Jackson and Egbert Van Alstyne. 1916.

1. You ask me why I'm always teasing you.
You hate to have me call you pretty baby.
I really thought that I was pleasing you,
For you're just a baby to me.
Your cunning little dimples and your baby stare,
Your baby talk and baby walk and curly hair,
Your baby smile makes life worthwhile.
You're just as sweet as you can be.

CHORUS: Ev'rybody loves a baby; that's why I'm in love with you,
Pretty baby, pretty baby;
And I'd like to be your sister, brother, dad and mother too,
Pretty baby, pretty baby.
Won't you come and let me rock you in my cradle of love,
And we'll cuddle all the time.
Oh! I want a lovin' baby and it might as well be you,
Pretty baby of mine.

2. Your mother says you were the cutest kid.
No wonder, dearie, that I'm wild about you.
And all the cunning things you said and did,
Why, I love to fondly recall.
And just like Peter Pan, it seems you'll always be
The same sweet, cunning, little baby dear to me.
And that is why I'm sure that I
Will always love you best of all. CHORUS

[The Virtual Gramophone has 2 recordings: one by Harry Macdonough and the Orpheus Quartet; and another by Henry Burr; both from 1916.]


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