Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 04:01 PM

LS

Hubert Gregg was the one who wrote I'm Going To Get Lit Up (when the lights go up in London) and Maybe It's Because I'm A Londoner.

I'm not sure at all about I Belong To London. The only references I can find to that title are Judy Garland recordings from the late 60s of I Belong To London (and London belongs to me) and I if that's when the song originated, I think Hubert Gregg had stopped writing songs by then. I'm not sure though, so keep checking back here.

Mick

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Lighter
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:13 AM

"The wash" is more common though.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Lighter
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:12 AM

"Clothesline" is the usual word in America as well. "Hang the washing on the line" used to be an everyday expression.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 07:34 AM

Might anyone know if it was indeed Hubert Grieg who wrote "I Belong to London"? If so, was he composer and lyricist? And when was it written? Thanks for any help.

LS

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Gurney
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 04:54 AM

In the cheapo section of places where they sell recordings you can often find VERY cheap CDs that include some of the songs that JenEllen wants. Sally Army, Hospice, and other opportunity shops sell them even cheaper, but you need to take your spectacles with you. They are never at a comfortable height to read. When Gran dies, that's where her recordings go! Online searches of big bands of the era is the easiest way to find them. Billy Cotton?
Unfortunately, the CDs are sometimes mastered from old records, so they are far from perfect.
There are two CDs of George Formby songs available, mostly from WWII, with Mr. Woo being on firewatching duty and later in the RAF among about 35 others....

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 02:10 AM

... + IIRC the left forefinger laid across upper-lip to represent the Führer's moustache

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 01:19 AM

I remember [I was around at the time; too small to join in myself, but I recall my big schoolmates doing it at a lunchtime impromptu dance] a novelty dance devised to "Hang Out The Washing": the dancers did a parody goose-step around in a circle with right arms raised in a paradoxical 'Heil Hitler' salute while singing the song.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Jan 12 - 01:13 AM

Kat ~ didn't mean they would hang the washing on the guns; you miss the point of the joke ~ not surprising, because it is UK-idiomatic. In this country, the string stretched between two poles on which damp washing is pegged out to dry ['hung out'] is called a 'clothes-line': hence "Hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line".

The words of the song BTW were by the ubiquitous Jimmy Kennedy [Red Sails In The Sunset, South Of The Border, Isle Of Capri, Teddy Bears Picnic, The Hokey Cokey...]

~Michael~

From Wikipedia ~ "We're Going to Hang out the Washing on the Siegfried Line" is a popular song written by Ulster songwriter Jimmy Kennedy, whilst he was a Captain in the British Expeditionary Force during the early stages of the Second World War. The Siegfried Line was a chain of fortifications along Germany's Western border, analogous to the Maginot Line in France. The song was used as a morale-booster during the war, particularly up to and during the Battle of France.
It began
We're going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line.
Have you any dirty washing, mother dear?
We're gonna hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line.
'Cause the washing day is here.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Les from Hull
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 10:02 AM

Or the Two Leslies.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 05:30 AM

A similar song was Down On The Maginot Line, which I think was a Formby song.
The Siegfried line song was Flannagan and Allen I think.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 04:45 AM

The name was from WW1, not Hitler.
From Wiki.
The original Siegfried line (German: Siegfriedstellung) was a line of defensive forts and tank defences built by Germany as a section of the Hindenburg Line 1916–1917 in northern France during World War I. In English, Siegfried line more commonly refers to the similar World War II defensive line, built during the 1930s, opposite the French Maginot Line, which served a corresponding purpose. The Germans themselves called this the Westwall, but the Allies renamed it after the World War I line.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Will Fly
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 04:43 AM

Hitler was a huge admirer of Wagner's music - Siegfried, as a name for the line, would have been an appropriate, if obvious choice.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Jan 12 - 04:39 AM

The joke became hollow when Blitzkrieg began.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 08:17 PM

Thanks, I figure it must've been something like that, but I am still curious if they chose "Siegfried" because of Wagner's music. I did see some notes about the joke part of it with English soldiers hanging their wash on the ends of German guns.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 03:12 PM

It was the German defensive line on its border with France.
It was their version of the French Maginot Line.
Hanging the washing on it was an English joke.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:34 PM

I've got a question. We watched an old episode of All Creatures Great & Small last night in which they sang Hang Out the Washing on the Siegfried Line. I found reference to it, with the chorus and at least one verse in another thread. Apparently it was George Formby song.

Anyway, what I'd like to know is why "Siegfried?" Is it a reference to Wagner or just a generic German-type name which worked well for the lyrics and sentiments of the time?

Thanks!

kat

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GUEST,Karl Koenig - Running springs, CA USA
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 03:08 PM

Enjoy the site and opinions -- Does an;yone know about the song "This is Worth Fighting For" I think sinatra recored it and it almost sounds like a Scotlish style song. Thank You, Karl

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Megan L
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 12:32 PM

Actualy cranky Yanky ENGLAND did not hold out, the UNITED KINGDOM did there were 4 countries involved and it is disrespectful of the civilian dead of them all to mention only one.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 11:22 AM

I might be a bit late with this but Reginald Dixon (Organist) is NOT
the same bloke as Reg Dixon (Comedian) whose sig tune was the queried Confidentially .His catch phrase wa "I'm only here for Five Minutes'

I'm Gonna Get Lit Up was composed by Hubert Grieg (composer of I belong to London) who died earlier this year.

And I will go along with Bebe Daniels as the singer , NOT Phoebe. She
was American and spent the later years of the war and the rest of the Forties in London with her husband Ben Lion - They had a BBC Radio Programme - Life with the Lions through into the fifties.

Hang Out The Washing was of course a first war song revived by F & A

Sam Browne was the vocalist with a number of top dance bands in UK in the thirties and forties .

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 10:36 AM

First time I have ever seen this particular website. Very interesting reading. As far as I am concerned, Anne Shelton was a far better singer than Vera Lynn. Vera could only do one kind of song and that was the slow sad sentimental ones that made most people cry. Not the sort of thing one needed in wartime really, whereas Anne was far more versatile and could perform any kind of song.   Sadly she is no longer with us but there are still some great cds, tapes and LPs etc. around so we can still hear that wonderful voice. Thats my opinion anyway. JIM W. East Sussex

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DougR
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 01:53 PM

That's a great story, Lyndi-loo! The thought that you might have been conceived during a rousing rendition of "Roll out the Barrel," is a picture in the mind to be treasured! **BG**

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Lyndi-loo
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 05:34 AM

My Dad was in the RAF during the war and he always said that Anne Shelton was the RAF's sweetheart and Vera Lynn came second, but that the army preferred her. My Mum and Dad were courting then and because of the blackout, they had to whistle "Roll out the Barrel" at their meeting place so they could recognise each other in the dark! That of course became "their" song

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DaveJ
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 05:10 AM

Noreen,

Thanks, for the html-help. Some day I'll get it.

DougR,

I was completely ready to agree with you....Guess a little humble pie and a little web surfing are good for the soul.

Berlin certainly left us many equally wonderful tunes. Actually "Bless 'em All" seems to have alternative verses that were writen from a US point of view. I ran into them somewhere on the WWW. DaveJ

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DougR
Date: 31 May 01 - 01:45 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, DaveJ. I was one of those that thought Berlin wrote it.

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Noreen
Date: 31 May 01 - 11:34 AM

(DaveJ, you just left an equals sign out of the last one) try this

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GUEST,redhorse
Date: 31 May 01 - 08:46 AM

If anyone can't see why a country with a)Near infinite attack power and b)near perfect defensive shield could make its neighbours nervous .............

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GeorgeH
Date: 31 May 01 - 08:06 AM

CRANKY YANKEE you just proved the accuracy of your ID. You disagree with what I didn't say, and are pretty wide of the mark in many of your comments. Immediate post-war reaction almost entirely failed to distinguish between Germany and Austria (good historic reasons for this) and held the Italians in utter contempt (whereas it at least respected Germany's military competence). Also to say the RAF made mincemeat of the Lufwaffe is to trivialise the sacrifice of the the RAF (what was the life-expectancy of a Flying Officer at the height of the Battle of Britain?) . . the two sides were fairly evenly matched, and we survived by the narrowest of margins.

And I note your studied refusal to acknowledge the contribution the Russians made to the outcome of the world war . . interesting prejudice!

Oh, and anti-semitism was never an issue DURING the war; indeed the British Government decide not to publicise Hitler's opression of the Jews for fear it would increase public sympathy for him over here.

As for the Oxford Union debate . . it reflects the intellectual mood of its time. What is more significant is how quickly that mood changed. Largely the result of propaganda effort rather than nobility of British Character, I suspect. And today it would be all too easy to whip up anti-European sentiment in this island . .

George

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DaveJ
Date: 31 May 01 - 07:12 AM

Still didn't work! There is always cut and paste.

http://british-forces.com/world_war2/civil/songs/blessemall.html

DaveJ

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DaveJ
Date: 31 May 01 - 07:08 AM

Darn, I messed up that clickie. try this

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DaveJ
Date: 31 May 01 - 07:00 AM

Back to music. Earlier folks attributed Bless 'em All" to Irvin Berlin. Others questioned whether he was the song writer of Bless... I was about to argue tooth and claw that Berlin was the writer but I couldn't find proof. Then I thought maybe George M. Cohan was the author. Nope! This site attributes Bless 'em All to Messers Jimmy Hughes & Frank Lake

DaveJ

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: JenEllen
Date: 31 May 01 - 06:03 AM

I for the most part agree with PeteM's earlier post. But if anyone thinks they can do better, they can try this site:defense budget

It seems that the post-war tendency was to encourage the thought that any future wars would be initiated by suprise attacks, The GermanV2 straight through to the North KoreanTaepong-1. "Don't Be Suprised" was the motto floating around the bases at the time--There was no mistake about the war going on in the rest of the world, so I fail to understand how anyone in America at the time could be 'suprised'. Nevermind that the Japanese air fleet over Pearl Harbor had been successfully detected, and it was human error ("administrative failure") that destroyed any tactical value the warnings might have had.

Building defenses only serves to feed a growing sense of vulnerability. Especially so, when the defenses do not work. THAAD testing? Boasted an 18% success rate. (That's an 82% failure rate to you folks at home). THAAD officials will insist that they can detect all decoys and countermeasures, but the 'success' record shows that deterrance that cannot protect against accidental launces, terrorist launches, etc. This is technically impractical, strategically destabilizing, and a threat to any kind of arms control measures that might be put in place. All with a 3.8 billion dollar (and rising) price tag. You put 3.8 billion dollars into isolationism and all you will be is alone.

Bless 'Em All

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DougR
Date: 31 May 01 - 02:48 AM

Ah yes, CRANKY YANKEE, and Toadfrog, but what British song were the bad guys humming as they planned to destroy the free world? Oh, I know! "A Nightengale Sang in BERKLEY Square!" Right, JenEllen?

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 May 01 - 01:23 AM

Yes JenEllen - Rimmer is the Hammond Organ fan and collector of telegraph pole pictures.

Cranky - full marks for getting your British war history correct, but I think you had better go and read 'A town like Alice'. The Japanese did not have to torture their own people, their culture did it for them - witness the degredation of the man who had to guard the women prisoners in the book - it was a form of punishment and the guard suffered for it as much as if you had made him one of the prisoners. He was without honour, and that is the worst you could do to a proud soldier of the Empire. That is also why so many officers committed suicide, rather than be captured or surrender. To submit to people they saw as a sub-species was so against their honourable upbringing that they could not submit, but would die with dignity at their own hands, thus saving face where they could.

As for Hitler, he loved Austria, was Austrian by birth and Germany has always had a love/hate relationship with them. Hitler wanted to turn Germany into Austria, making it a pastoral haven and a cultural leader. To do this, the old Germany had to be eradicated. Almost all of 'Mein Kampf' is about this struggle for a new world. But only at the expense of everyone else.

And today's useless information: the German national anthem goes to a tune called 'Austria'.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: toadfrog
Date: 31 May 01 - 01:18 AM

Gee, Cranky Yankee, I am a liberal too. To paraphrase whats-his-name, I agree with what you say, but will deny to the death your right to say it in that manner.

Hitler was unique only in his importance. his tendencies were not all that different from Idi Amin or Radovan Karadzic. When you dislike what someone stands for, you can always say, Oh, that guy must be crazy, must be a masochist, etc. But what you are really doing is refusing to understand him.

The German Socialists insisted on calling Hitler a "petit-bourgeois," roughly equivalent to "wimp." They thought of the Nazis as wimps. They paid for that. And if we write violent people off as crazy, we too may end up paying

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 31 May 01 - 01:03 AM

In the first place, The soviet Union wasn't attacked by the Germans as soon as War was declared by The U.K., The British DID stand alone for quite some time. Hitler didn't transfer his forces to the Eastern Front until AFTER the British had shown him that they would not give up, and the RAF made mincemeat out of the Luftwaffe. The fact is, Hitler goofed over and over and over again. The only way his actions make any sense at all is if you assume that Hitler WANTED TO DESTROY GERMANY, FOR WHATEVER REASON HIS WEIRD MIND HAD. Maybe he was pissed off at Germany for throwing him in Jail, etc. It seems to me that he blundered over and over and over again because his subconscious wanted to wreck Germany. I think that he did some of the things he did, TO MAKE THE OTHER NATIONS OF THE WORLD BECOME SO ANGRY, (which we did) THAT THEY WOULD NOT STOP UNTIL GERMANY WAS IN RUINS AND COMPLETELY HUMBLED.

Notice, he didn't get the world absolutely furious with Austria and Italy. And as far as Japan is concerned, in their entire history, they have never persecuted their own people because of religion. The only time religion was anDuring the War issue was during the Satsuma rebellion, and, that was only because the Satsuma Clan were Christians. The Japanese, it is my understanding, had nothing but contempt for hitler's "Final solution" and in fact, they had a plan, in place, to attempt to rescue Jews because they thought that these bright, energetic people would be a welcome addition to Japanese culture. The only anti semitic acts they committed, at Hitlers Insistance that they do SOMETHING, was to break phonograph records of music by Jewish composers and performers.

Jody Gibson

I'll be right back, I don't want AOL (the scoundrels) to knock me off the internet before I can submit the above.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DougR
Date: 30 May 01 - 09:56 PM

Thanks for your input, Pete M. at work.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: JenEllen
Date: 30 May 01 - 09:51 PM

Well put, Pete at work.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GUEST,Pete M at work
Date: 30 May 01 - 09:45 PM

DougR

very quick synopsis on "missile shields".

1. Technical With the best technology the US and the West can mount there is no such thing as even 80% accurate bombing and this is childs play compared to the problems in hitting a missile. Problems include detection, identification, accelaration and targeting, that even before the sneaky other lot try and fool your system with MRV's, decoys etc. 2. Financial It cost a LOT of dosh and despite GWB Jnr tax cuts I've not seen any improvement in the health, education, poverty etc stats for the USA. I would suggest a lot of people could think of better things to do with the money. 3. Political For the USA to even try and make itself immune from attack is inviting everyone else to gang up on them. I remember during the "Cuban crisis" there was great derision over American horror at the thought of missles being that close to their cites, something Europe had lived with for twenty plus years. 4. Practical. If I wanted to nuke the USA it would probably be easier and a lot cheaper to send a few containers of "fluffy bunnies" to key cities, I would think the chances of them being caught by customs would be relatively low. 5. Military There is no such thing as a "defensive" weapon. If it can traget an incoming missile it can be targeted at anything else within range, and the motive of the person authorising luanch doesn't invalidate it.

As Eisenhower originally pointed out, and Macnamara implemented, the entire Western economy is based on military spending. To change this would require a total change in the corporate / military / political structure. That doesn't mean its not a good idea.

Pete M

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: JenEllen
Date: 30 May 01 - 06:42 PM

Isn't he also the Hammond Organ fanatic? Rimmer, not Reg...Thanks Liz, another place to look!

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 May 01 - 05:58 PM

Reggie Dixon is available on cassette and CD recordings and has seen a surge in popularity since the BBC TV programme 'Red Dwarf' where Rimmer is a Reggie fan.

LTS

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: JenEllen
Date: 30 May 01 - 05:53 PM

Thanks Walrus, my recording doesn't have that first verse.

Talk about what you will. This information is enlightening, but please, if you have any manners, use them. All I ask. What's wrong with "I don't understand..." "Could you please explain.." or "Wouldn't it be fair then to say..?" Because the thread was started about war songs doesn't mean we need to incite any here. Diplomacy is swiftly becomming a lost art.

~J

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DougR
Date: 30 May 01 - 01:17 PM

Thanks for posting the lyrics, JenEllen and Walrus. Other singers of the song may have been far more popular across the pond (and some of you have named many) but the only one I recall attaining great popularity in the U. S. was Vera Lynn's. Perhaps her record company had a better marketing department than the others.

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Les from Hull
Date: 30 May 01 - 12:06 PM

Could your 'Phoebe Daniels' actually be Bebe Daniels?

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Les from Hull
Date: 30 May 01 - 11:57 AM

Although I'm a bit too young for WW2, my Mum and Dad served in it, and so I'll try to add what I've learnt from them.

Reginald Dixon was the resident organist at Blackpool Tower, and there must be many recordings of his still available, but they might be on organ compilations.

Flannagan and Allen were part of the 'Crazy Gang', and some of their recordings may be under that name.

Vera Lynn was heavily promoted by the newsreels and BBC as the 'Forces' Favourite', but most people (according to my Dad) actually preferred Anne Shelton, who was far more personable.

Les

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 May 01 - 10:04 AM

I will not talk about the stupid missile shield in JenEllen's thread; I will not talk about the stupid Maginot Line in JenEllen's thread; I will not talk about the terrifying threat from North Korea; I will not talk about creating the very situation you are purporting to solve; I will not talk about the stupid missile shield in JenEllen's thread. Whew.
The best version of "A Nightingale" was by Leslie Hutchinson ("Hutch").

yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 30 May 01 - 08:51 AM

JenEllen,

When true lovers meet in Mayfair, so the story goes
Bluebirds sing Winter turns to spring
Every little street in Mayfair falls beneath the spell,
I know such enchantments can be,'cos it happened one evening to me.

That certain night,
the night we met ,
There was magic abroad in the air
There were angels dining at the Ritz
And a nightingale sang in Berkeley Square
etc.

Good luck.

walrus

Subject: Lyr Add: A NIGHTINGALE SANG IN BERKELEY SQUARE
From: JenEllen
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:31 AM

Down, boyos. Play nice. Female opinion only, but if there were no hot tempers then there would be no need for missiles in the first place.

Here ya go, Dugger. Maybe someone can fill in the holes? The recording I have is a terribly fuzzy one of Elsie Carlisle. You were right, beautiful song.


A NIGHTINGALE SANG IN BERKELEY SQUARE
lyrics by Eric Maschwitz and music by Manning Sherwin, ©1940.

That certain night, the night we met,
There was magic abroad in the air.
There were angels dining at the Ritz,
And a nightingale sang in Berkeley Square.

I may be right; I may be wrong,
But I'm perfectly willing to swear
That when you turned and smiled at me,
A nightingale sang in Berkeley Square.

The moon that lingered over London town,
Poor puzzled moon, he wore a frown.
How could he know we two were so in love?
The whole darned world seemed upside down.

The streets of town were paved with stars.
It was such a romantic affair,
And as we kissed and said goodnight,
A nightingale sang in Berkeley Square.

When dawn came stealing up all gold and blue,
To interrupt our rendezvous,
I still remember how you smiled and said,
'Was that a dream or was it true?'

Our homeward step was just as light
As the tap-dancing feet of Astaire,
And like and echo far away,
A nightingale sang in Berkeley Square.

I know 'cause I was there,
That night in Berkeley Square.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: DougR
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:16 AM

Peter T., you may feel George W. Bush's "missle shield is an act of despair," but that doesn't make it so. Things have changed in the world since the days when there were only three or four world powers. Now, any small country with nuculear capability is a world power, and not everybody in the world loves America, as so many mudcatters have cheerfully pointed out.

If the U. S. could put a man on the moon, I don't think it would be impossible to develop a missle shield. Since a shield would be a defensive weapon, not one used as a offencive weapon, I don't understand why there are so many opposed to it. Perhaps you will enlighten me, Peter T.

Should one of the aforementioned world leaders decide someday to push the button that would send missles our way, I'd hate it if the last thought in the mind of our dying president would be, "Gee, I really should have pushed harder for the development of a missle shield!"

But to bring this discussion back to the subject, perhaps if that were to happen, he would be humming "A Nightengale Sang in Berkley Square," when the missle detonates.

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: toadfrog
Date: 30 May 01 - 01:56 AM

An extensive group of RUDE British songs from the war, (e.g. "I don't want to join the Army") can be found at Klik here.

Subject: RE: Help: WWII & Brit'Cat Musical Quesions
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:36 AM

If you look at Amazon UK under "We'll meet again" there are several compilation CDs of 1940s music which have many of the tracks you want by the original artists. Scroll past all the Vera Lynn alone stuff.
RtS