One hump or two

Subject: One hump or two
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 27 May 01 - 04:31 PM

I had a query on the Songs of Faery thread. But since I revived the thread a couple of days, it has taken off in a different direction, so I need my own thread to get attention!

Lisa's contribution from March 1997 includes a story: " 'Legend of Knockgrafton' in which a good-natured hunchback named Lusmore hears a faery song which has the refrain "Monday, Tuesday". At first he is enchanted, but then he grows tired of the repetition. So he waits politely for the end of the song, and adds his own twist to the tune, along with the lyric "Wednesday". The faeries whisk him off to their castle, praise him for his musical skill, and reward him by removing his hump. When an ill-natured hunchback tries Lusmore's trick, interrupting the faeries' song with his squawking, they punish him for his transgression by adding Lusmore's hump to his own. I actually have some bars of music to go with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, found in a book called 'The Song Lore of Ireland' by Redfern Mason."

My question of May 2001:
"I wonder if ONE HUMP OR TWO on an album of Mary Ann Kennedy and Charlotte Peterson is a version of this story/song? I just found the track list while 'surfing'. Mary Ann Kennedy is a Gaelic speaker and I'm familiar with her singing."

My contribution of May 1999:
"Many versions of the story have been collected in Ireland and in Scotland, and often the story teller sings a chorus (Dia Luain, Dia Mairt...)(Monday, Tuesday: Dia Luain is the same as Dé Luain, etc). [Mary O'Hara has recorded the complete story in song form] I have no idea how old the song is, but suspect that it is relatively recent and based on the older story."

Dia Luain, Dia Máirt
Bhí Donall bocht cam agus dronn ar a dhroim
Ag gabháil tríd an ngleann ins an oíche
Nuair a chuala sé ceol ba chaoineadh ag na sióg
Ag teacht aige ar learg na gaoithe
Dia Luain, Dia Máirt, Dia Luain, Dia Máirt ...

Do stad sé agus d'éist go ciúin le gach séis
'S i ngéibheann ar glaoch binn is bhuaigh sé
Ach a chroí istigh go breoigh mar do theip ar an gceoil
'S níor cuireadh críoch cóir leis an líne
Dia Luain, Dia Máirt, Dia Luain, Dia Máirt ...

Ná ghlac Donall cam agus dronn ar a dhroim
A mhisneach, agus chan go deas séideán
Dia Luain, Dia Máirt, Dia Luain, Dia Máirt ... is Dia Céadaoin!
Dia Luain, Dia Máirt, Dia Luain, Dia Máirt ... is Dia Céadaoin!

Nuair a chuala an slua sí an críoch gheal míor bhinn
Nach orthu a bhíodh rí-rá agus áthas
Do bhain siad an dronn de Dhonall bocht cam
Agus d'imigh siad abhaile gan meacan
Dia Luain, Dia Máirt, Dia Luain, Dia Máirt ... is Dia Céadaoin

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Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 28 May 01 - 05:16 PM

Just trying to keep this thread current until I hear from a Mudcatter who can fill me in on the Mary Ann Kennedy and Charlotte Peterson recording track "One Hump or Two". It might be about a dromedary after all.

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: paddymac
Date: 29 May 01 - 12:13 PM

I've read and heard the tale many times, and think of it as a marvelous children's morality tale. Sad to say, I have never heard a musical version of it. I know this post won't answer your plea, but at least it will keep the thread alive for another day.

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: Robby
Date: 29 May 01 - 03:10 PM

Philippa,

I don't know how old the Kennedy/Petterson recording might be. However, I have a recording, actually an LP re-release I believe, of "Dia Luain, Dia Mairt", performed, in Irish, by Mary O'Hara. She is one of several artists featured in a multi-LP collection, issued by Capitol Records in the US in the early 1970s

I hopes this is helpful.

Robby

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: LR Mole
Date: 30 May 01 - 12:21 PM

Wot hump?

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 01 - 05:19 AM

Mole, read the story in the first message!

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: LR Mole
Date: 31 May 01 - 07:53 AM

That's EYE-gor.

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 04:52 AM

repeating last month's query:
"I wonder if ONE HUMP OR TWO on an album of Mary Ann Kennedy and Charlotte Peterson is a version of this story/song [Dia Luain, Dia Máirt]? I just found the track list while 'surfing'. Mary Ann Kennedy is a Gaelic speaker and I'm familiar with her singing."

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: GUEST,Robby (at a different PC)
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 08:17 AM

Sorry, Philippa,
I completely misunderstood your original question. Unfortunately, I have no information to provide in response to that question. Good luck.
Robby

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 09:45 PM

Time to get this query back in view; eventually someone will have an answer!

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: Bert
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 11:49 PM

What's a camel with three humps called?
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Humphrey

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 16 Jun 01 - 06:09 AM

lots of responses, none answering my query (see first message, & question reiterated 2 June) We'll get over this hump yet.

Subject: RE: One hump or two
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 16 Jun 01 - 07:03 AM

This doesn't answer your question either, Philippa, since I haven't heard the recording you mentioned, but Steve Schuch's book, "The Gift of the Wee Folk" tells the story very nicely. He's a fine musician, too!