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Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay

Anne 11 Dec 97 - 10:10 AM
Martin Ryan 11 Dec 97 - 12:26 PM
Barry 11 Dec 97 - 05:58 PM
Martin Ryan 12 Dec 97 - 04:03 AM
Wolfgang Hell 12 Dec 97 - 04:13 AM
12 Dec 97 - 12:06 PM
Jim Dixon 03 Apr 06 - 10:22 PM
Wolfgang 04 Apr 06 - 11:09 AM
Jim Dixon 04 Apr 06 - 07:21 PM
Declan 04 Apr 06 - 07:41 PM
Jim Dixon 05 Apr 06 - 08:01 AM
GUEST,irishgirl 15 Aug 06 - 01:07 AM
ard mhacha 15 Aug 06 - 04:11 AM
MartinRyan 15 Aug 06 - 05:26 PM
GUEST,gary banjo 15 Aug 06 - 05:32 PM
MartinRyan 15 Aug 06 - 05:38 PM
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GUEST,Iris Farrell 07 Jun 08 - 05:07 AM
GEST 07 Jun 08 - 10:03 AM
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Subject: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Anne
Date: 11 Dec 97 - 10:10 AM

I am looking for the lyrics to an Irish song entitled "Carlingsford Bay." Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 11 Dec 97 - 12:26 PM

Any more detail?

Regards


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Barry
Date: 11 Dec 97 - 05:58 PM

See "Carnloch Bay 2 ", & "Sweet Carnloch Bay" & "Road Tae Dundee" & "Road To Dundee", all in the DT. Barry


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 12 Dec 97 - 04:03 AM

Barry

That's what I thought! But there's another song floating in the back of my head somewhere....

Regards


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 12 Dec 97 - 04:13 AM

"Farewell to Carlingford" is the song I am reminded of (it is in the DT-database), but a search with Alta Vista showed that there is indeed a song titled "Carlingford Bay" (sorry, no lyrics). It still could be the same song. Just in case, Anne, try "Carlingford" in the upper right hand corner for a search and you get three songs, though I doubt you get the one you are looking for.
Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
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Date: 12 Dec 97 - 12:06 PM

Try "the Leaving of Carlingford"

I think that's a Tommy Makem song.

(by "I think" I mean I haven't checked my recordings yet).


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Subject: Lyr Add: CARLINGFORD BAY
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Apr 06 - 10:22 PM

From http://www.theballadeers.com/Lyrics_C1.htm:

CARLINGFORD BAY

There's an old winding road taking me to the mountains
And down to the sea far below
From the bloom on the bush comes the sound of the thrush
Through the woodlands I left long ago.

CHORUS: So keep those wheels a-turning.
Tell the folks I'm coming home to stay
Where I played as a child
With my heart free and wild
Down the loch shores near Carlingford Bay.

I would sweep with my hur (sic) through the green growing meadows
And dance till the dawn of the day.
I would stand on the deck of a staunch fishing smack
While the girls wave goodbye from the Quay. CHORUS

What fools men can be when a strange land is calling!
And oh, how it makes young men blind!
For the years slipped away as I toiled night and day
For a fortune I never did find. CHORUS TWICE


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 11:09 AM

Jim, you're doing a sterling work by answering these old requests. Is this a new record for lapse of time between question and response?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 07:21 PM

Could be. I'm not keeping track.


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Declan
Date: 04 Apr 06 - 07:41 PM

Anyone got any info about where the Carlingford in this song might be? My father's people came from near Carlingford in Co. Louth Ireland. This is definitely the placed mentioned in the Tommy Makem song referenced above which also mentions Greenore which is near the place in County Louth. I'm not sure the song above comes from the same place, although it does mention a Lough - the bay near Carlingford Co. Louth is known as Carlingford Lough. I suspect Carlingsford may be in a completely different part of the world.


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Subject: RE: Carlingsford Bay lyrics?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 Apr 06 - 08:01 AM

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Carlingford may refer to:
* Carlingford, County Louth, a mediaeval village in Republic of Ireland
* Carlingford Lough, the sea loch where the village is located
* Carlingford, New South Wales, a suburb in north-west Sydney, Australia

There are numerous references to Carlingsford on the Internet, but I suspect they are all mistakes or variant spellings for the above 3 places.

Carlingsford is also fictional place in a series of novels by Margaret Oliphant.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: GUEST,irishgirl
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 01:07 AM

yes, Carlingford is a small medieval town in County Louth right near Greenore and is infact on a bay, well more near the canal that separates southern and northern Ireland. You can see northern ireland across the bay if you stand on the water. its a great little town that my family is from and a place i dearly love. you should go there someday.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: ard mhacha
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 04:11 AM

Tommy Makem`s song Carlingford is without doubt about that lovely town in the County Louth, a place of great scenic beauty and in historic lore, one of my favourite places, a mere 40 minutes journey away.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:26 PM

This thread is a bit scrambled - but I remain fascinated by the "hur"!
Any other sources?

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: GUEST,gary banjo
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:32 PM

check www.theballadeers.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:38 PM

Gary

The set given above is taken from there - "hur" an' all!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: MartinRyan
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 05:40 PM

My best guess is "hurl" - though it's not an area noted for hurlers!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: GUEST,Iris Farrell
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:07 AM

I am looking for the words of Carlingford bay also. Was at a party last night and all us oldies could remember were the first three lines. Keep up the good work.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: GEST
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 10:03 AM

Here's a YouTube video from Ireland1 of the Dublin City Ramblers singing Carlingford Bay from their album Flight of Earls. The notes say: "Written by Paddy McGuigan." The word 'hur' still isn't distinguishable, but the lyrics are quite similar to those previously posted by Jim Dixon. :-)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=kqOBouskV88


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: Gulliver
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 12:27 PM

It's "hurl" (ie, hurling stick, for playing the game of hurling).

Paddy McGuigan was a member of the Barleycorn, and wrote "The Men Behind the Wire" and "The Boys of the old Brigade", among other songs. He came from Belfast but now lives near Dublin, I believe.

Hurling goes back a long way in the district--I have a song (originally in Irish) describing a hurling match in nearby Omeath in 1750, here.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 01:20 PM

I am remembering a Hurl as a harvesting tool like scythe. This would make sense in the context of the verse. But I'm remembering tools from early Central New York State and not tools from Ireland.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: Gulliver
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 07:51 PM

For definition of "hurl" see here.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Carlingford Bay
From: Declan
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 08:31 PM

Martin,

Two years is a long time to reply I know.

The Cooley peninsula may not currently be renowned for it's hurlers but if memory serves me right this was the home of Setanta (not Mr O hAilpín) who was one of the most legendary hurlers of all time (apart from Chritsy Ring).


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