Penguin Eggs

Subject: Penguin Eggs
From: GUEST,Rana
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:00 AM

I've just received my first printed copy of Penguin Eggs. This is the first print edition of this Canadian Folk/World music magazine which is produced and edited by Roddy Campbell in Edmonton Alberta. This issue (#10) features an interview with Eliza Carthy amonst other reviews and articles. The first 9 issues were put out only on the net. Below is a link to issue 9.

Apart from knowing Roddy some 20-25 years ago, I have no connection with this.

Penguin Eggs - Canadian folk magazine

Cheers Rana

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Kim C
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:46 AM

Oh dear. There's a penguin on the television set. ;-)

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 10:52 AM

I've seen this good publication but always wondered about the title as all species of penguins live in the southern hemisphere!

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: GUEST,Rana
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 11:25 AM

Roddy explains the name in printed edition - after the Nic Jones recording. I suppose a bit like Dirty Linen after the Fairport tune.

Rana

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 11:40 AM

Nice to see that Nic still gets the occasional mention in these threads!!
Good luck with the mag..
LOL Ralphie

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 12:39 PM

If you do a web search using "Nic Jones" as key words, you are more likely to turn up references to John Wesley Harding than Nic.

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 01 - 03:42 PM

I've seen penguins in the northern hemisphere, they're called auks, no? And I didn't expect to see so much African stuff in a Canadian thing, somehow, very nice!

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 04:25 AM

For good scientific form (the biologist showing in me I guess!) the auks are from an entirely different order (Charadriiformes), related to puffins and razorbills, than penguins (Sphenisciformes)which are confined to the southern hemisphere, although they do admittedly look a little like penguins!

While mentioning the great Nic Jones and his essential album "Penguin Eggs" and the song from which the album takes its name as Ralphie says above, it is worth crediting the author of that fine Australian song (originally called "The Litle Pot Stove" too, Harry Robertson, who wrote it from direct experience on the southern whaling fleets.

None of which takes away from and is entirely beside the point, of course, the fine Canadian folk magazine of the same name... just a little further background!

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: dbranno
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 12:53 PM

"Salt fish and whalemaeat sausage, fresh penguin eggs a treat" is a line from Harry Robertson's song "Wee Pot Stove". Harry was a Scots marine engineer, who ended up in Australia in the 60's, and wrote a good many songs about his life & times, another of which, "Ballina Whalers" is also on Nic Jones' album. We have our own penguins here in Victoria (Australia), little fellas called fairy penguins who put on wonderful parades at certain times of the year.AND we no longer hunt the humpbacks up and down the east coast of Oz,in fact it's whale watching time right now, and the numbers are on the increase, new family groupings evidenced by their changing song patterns (they also, of course migrate up and down the west coast of Oz. Being whales, I guess, they swim where they like!) So thanks Canada, and keep it up hmmmmm if we're downunder, you guys must be upover(?) regards Davo

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 01:58 PM

Very cool...

But they really could make finding the subscription info MUCH easier to find!!

gotta gotta gotta get it!!

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 05:18 PM

Out Of interest, apart from P Eggs and B Whalers did Harry R write any other songs??..Any clues?
Cheers all Ralphie

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 07:07 PM

I believe he did Ralphie; our colleague here on the 'Cat, Bob Bolton, would be your man to contact about Harry. He's a font of knowledge on Australian folk and has helped me a lot with the background and information on a number of my favourite Australian songs.

Best regards

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 07:26 PM

P.S. Ralphie,

I quick search revealed this page about a collection of Harry's songs and a bit of history about the man himself.

Best regards

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: dbranno
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 08:50 PM

Well played mooman and ralphie! I'm a newcomer to the catcaff, (and recently reformed luddite!)but I've known Harry Robbo's songs, and the man himself, since I was a bearded youth aspiring to be a folksinger. He was a rare man. And I'm singing the praises for the mudcat .just love the exchanges! There's a book by another Robertson, a doctor,"Of whales and men", about southern ocean whaling in the '50's which dovetails brilliantly with Harry's work sail on regards,Davo

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: David Coffin
Date: 07 Jul 01 - 10:02 PM

If you can lay hands on hos "Norfolk Whalers" it's one of the most beautifull songs for sure.

David Coffin

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 01:12 AM

Mooman......Brilliant!!
(as always....STB) dbranno........Thanks for the info, and welcome to the mad world of Mudcat....Only got into it a month or so ago.
and, I haven't managed to not get an answer to anything yet.....Mind you, I haven't asked for a proof of Fermat's last theorem !...Give me time!!
Gloucesterman....will seek it out
Hugs to all
Ralphie

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 03:58 AM

Oh Ralphie!

Ask us something hard next time!

Here it is!!!

(;o)

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:05 AM

You're welcome dbranno!

Welcome to the Mudcat! You'll like it here I'm sure. We get our occasional spell of madness and the odd spot of bother but 99% of the time it's the best site I know. No, make that 100%!

Very best regards

moman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:06 AM

Moo... I'm still not sure about the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture! Mmmm ....Whats the tune like....! Love R xx (PS...Try and get to listen to M.A.Numminen's "Tractatus Suite".......Wittgensteins theory of logical positivism, set in a "Rawk" context)

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:24 AM

Maybe I'll try and set it to music over my forthcoming holiday Ralphie! Now..that WOULD be a challenge! Thanks, I'll seek out the "Tractacus Suite"!

Best

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:32 AM

Moo.....Holiday?? Holiday??? What sort of creature are you...WE MUST WORK TO BUILD THE NEW ORDER......! (Woops...got a bit carried away there....My National Socialist past coming out....sorry!) Have a great time..postcard please....R xx

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: mooman
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:41 AM

Even revolutionaries need a holiday sometimes Ralphie! Saving the world is a tough job! If there's a cybercaff in Galway or Clifden I WILL send a postcard...what a good idea!

All the best

mooman

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:46 AM

Looking forward........THERE MUST BE NO TURNING BACK!!(Doctor......the pills, the pills!)
Have a great Holiday....Womad & Sidmouth beckon for me....No Hols 'til October....Ralphie xx

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 08:55 AM

G'day Ralphie, Dbranno and Mooman,

That's a nice 'blue clicky' Mooman provided to Lyn Mathieson's 'FolkTrax' item on Harry. Lyn and Evan put in a lot of hard work to get the Whale Chasing Man LP re-released on CD and it's great to see it available to a new generation.

I know they have more in the pipeline and I hope to see more worthwhile releases from ScreenSound, the sound and film division of the National Library of Australia.

Regards,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: English Jon
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 08:02 AM

Ralphie, I did a load of restoration on Wittgenstein's collection of 78's. Didn't tell me much about positivism though. Very fond of Brahms and Schubert, apparently. And Bach.

EJ

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 05:50 AM

Bob...It really is amazing what you turn up around here!
I'll follow up the Harry R story when I have time....but, thanks to all for putting me in the right direction..
English John!
Wittgenstein....Schmittgenstein!!
All the best Ralphie

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: English Jon
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 05:58 AM

Well, the disks were certainly covered in Schittgenstein.

God they were knackered records though. Realy bad... I think NDR eventually went and got CD's of some of the pieces in question for broadcast...

EJ

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 06:25 AM

*LOL* @ you lot, connecting whaling, Wittgenstein and the semistable case of the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture... ROTFLMAO!

♥ Noreen

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 06:45 AM

Noreen, darling.....!
If you don't realise that English jon and I are having an erudite conversation here......No, I won't finish this sentence.
After some of the poo I've been reading on other threads, Wittgenstein & Fermat come as a breath of fresh air!!
Love R xx

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: pavane
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:00 AM

I see Riemann gets a mention in the proof, but no Lobachevsky. Interesting (to Lehrer, maybe)

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:38 AM

Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky gets his mention now!

:0)

Can't think why, but I've just remembered a cactus named Phi X174 (named after the bacteriophage of the same name) which lived on my room-mate's window ledge when I was at Uni...

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: pavane
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 03:34 AM

Ah - the two founders of non-Euclidean geometry now equally honoured - spericals and hyberbolics to all

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: pavane
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 03:38 AM

Cocked that one up too. Should have been Sphericals

Subject: RE: Penguin Eggs
From: Ralphie
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 10:40 AM

Memo to self.....
I really must get out more!
Ralphie