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Subject: Lyr Add: DOES YOUR SPEARMINT LOSE ITS FLAVOR?^^^ From: Dale Rose Date: 08 Jan 98 - 10:57 PM I can think of several nice versions of Does your chewing gum lose its flavor(on the bedpost over night). This one is from Lulu Belle & Scotty Wiseman. I also have a version by the the Irish Rovers, and I seem to remember one by Lonnie Donegan as well, but I could be wrong on that. The Rovers' version was quite a bit different, but then, they were different. DOES YOUR SPEARMINT LOSE ITS FLAVOR?
Oh me, oh my, oh you, I don't know what to do,
Here comes the blushing bride, her sweetheart by her side, Click for lyrics in the Digital Tradition |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Elektra@gate.net Date: 09 Jan 98 - 01:26 AM Yes, Lonnie Donegan DOES do a version -- I think I may actually still have it on a cassette around here somewhere... As I recall the verses are very close to your given above, but I believe the chorus goes like this: Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight? If your mother says "don't chew it!" do you swallow it in spite? Can you catch it on your tonsils? Can you heave(?) it left and right? Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight? |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Jan 98 - 02:29 AM There's quite a discussion of the song in this thread. Now, somebody remind me, who was songwriter Billy Rose married to? Was it Fanny Brice? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Bert Date: 09 Jan 98 - 08:37 AM Elektra, I'm glad there's another Lonnie Donnegan fan out there. I seem to recall his version had "...wiggle it left and right" |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Dale Rose Date: 09 Jan 98 - 09:46 AM Well, at least the version I posted was different. I looked up chewing gum in the data base~~not there, but just now I checked spearmint, and it magically appeared! The versions in the thread mentioned by Joe were by Lonnie Donnegan, and the database version is that of the Irish Rovers. Now the question is, which is the "correct" version as written by Billy Rose? Probably none of them! |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DOES YOUR CHEWING GUM LOSE ITS FLAVOR? From: Gene Date: 09 Jan 98 - 03:09 PM Found on the net... DOES YOUR CHEWING GUM LOSE ITS FLAVOR (On The Bedpost Overnight?) Lonnie Donnigan Writer: Billy Rose
Oh! me, oh! my, oh! you
CHORUS
Here comes the blushing bride
(REPEAT CHORUS) |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: chet w Date: 09 Jan 98 - 11:47 PM Two words: Homer, Jethro Chet W. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: dick greenhaus Date: 10 Jan 98 - 07:29 PM FWIW, Billy Rose was married to Eleanor Holm, an Olympic swimming champ. He produced a swimming extravaganza, the Aquacade, at the 1939 Worlds Fair, starring her. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: DrWord Date: 13 Jan 98 - 02:41 PM In Lonnie's version, after the Gibraltar bit, there's some music hall dialogue: I say, my dustbin's absolutely full of toadstools! -How do you know it's full? 'Cause there's not mush room inside!! [refrain] and If tin whistles is made o' tin, what do they make foghorns out of? Oooo Ooooh [refrain] Dennis oops! Maybe these bits are from the song on the flip side of the record, "My old man's a dustman" Come to dredge this up [from the late 50s] that's probably where they fit in. Memory ain't what it used to be. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Bert Date: 13 Jan 98 - 04:01 PM "My old man's a dustman" Ah happy memories. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MY OLD MAN'S A DUSTMAN (Lonnie Donegan)^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Jan 98 - 05:58 PM I was sure I harvested "Dustman" off the forum a few months ago, but I couldn't find it when I did a forum body search. There's a rather generous CD from Castle Communications called "Lonnie Donegan - the Collection." I got it at musicboulevard.com for under ten bucks, and it has 24 rather obnoxious songs, which some would say are just my type. Well, here goes: My Old Man's A Dustman Lonnie Donegan By Donegan/Buchannan/Thorn (Piano intro) (Spoken) Thank you Ada, thank you... Now, ‘ere's a little story. To tell it is a must About an unsung hero that moves away your dust. (Spoken) "Fair make that piano talk, you do." Some people earn a fortune, others earn a mint. (Tries to think of a rhyme for mint...I cant tell exactly what he says) My old man don't earn much, in fact, he's flippin' skint. Oh, my old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat He wears gor-blimey(?) trousers and lives in a gambrel flat. He ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? boots He ? ? ? to pull them up and he calls ‘em daisy(?) roots One day whilst in a hurry, he missed a lady's bin He ‘adn't gone but a few yards when she chased after him "What game do you think you're playing?" she cried right from the heart. "You missed me! Am I too late?" "No, jump up on the cart!" Oh, my old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat He wears gor-blimey (?) trousers and he lives in a gambrel flat. (Interruption.. something like) I say, I say, I say. 'ello, ‘ello, ‘ello. I say, I say, I say.) How do you get milk from a coconut? Use a very low stool. Very funny! I say, I say... How do you make a fruit cordial? I don't know. How do you make a fruit cordial? Be nice to me. A nice old lady swore at Dad when he was on his rounds She said' "You're drunk you awful man, you ought to be sent down(?)" Dad said, "Well, you're so ugly, you ought to stand(?) a warning." "One good thing about being drunk, I'll be sober in the morning!" My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat He wears gor-blimey (?) trousers and he lives in a gambrel flat. I say, I say, I say, ‘ello, ello, ello, I say, I say, I say, ‘ello, ‘ello, ‘ello I saw a Scotsman scr-r-r-aping off his wallpaper. Oh, decorating? Noooo, he was moving! I say, I say, I say. And yet again, I say- What's green, has eight legs and would kill you if it fell on you from out of a tree? I don't know, what's green, has eight legs and would kill you if it fell on you from out of a tree? A billiard table. He knows something... A circus lady with a bear was moving from her digs She put her rubbish in the bin, including several wigs. She then chucked out the little bear, said "There, that ought to ?" He said, " ‘ere you win, I'll get it if you leave your bear behind." My old man's a dustman, he wears a dustman's hat He wears gor-blimey (?) trousers and he lives in a gambrel flat. And if you see a dustman and ‘e's lookin' all pale and sad ?pickin' up his dustbin, ‘cause it might be my old dad Transcribed from K-Tel Album, "Looney Tunes", 1976 -Joe Offer-^^ |
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Subject: ADD: Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor?^^^ From: Linda Date: 19 Nov 98 - 12:59 PM Hey, Guys!!! My Grandfather wrote the "Chewing Gum Song"!! I grew up singing it at his knee!! Ernest Breuer (check the sheet music)... He wrote the music and collaborated with Billy Rose and Marty Bloom, who wrote the lyrics... He was big in the Tin Pan Alley scene and Ziegfield Follies... (Also wrote "Oh, Gee Oh, Gosh Oh, Golley" for Eddie Cantor - done also later by Betty Boop!! Anyway, here's the official lyrics of the copyright renewed in 1952 - had to change it from "Does the Spearmint...." due to problem with Wrigley... Enjoy!! FIRST VERSE Oh me, Oh my, Oh you! Whatever shall I do? Hallelujah! The question is peculiar. I'd give a lot of dough; if only I could know, The answer to my question, is it "yes" or is it "no"? CHORUS Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? If your mother says don't chew it, do you swallow it in spite? Can you catch it on your tonsils; can you heave it left and right? Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? SECOND VERSE The nation rose as one, to send their honored son, To the White House, the nation's only White House. To voice their discontent unto the President, Upon the burning question that has swept this continent. CHORUS Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? If you pull it out like rubber, will it snap right back and bite? If you paste it on the left side, will you find it on the right? Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? THIRD VERSE Here comes the blushing bride, the groom is by her side, To the altar as steady as Gibraltar. The groom has got the ring; it's such a pretty thing. He slips it on her finger and the choir begins to sing: CHORUS Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? Would you use it on your collar when your button's not in sight? Put your hand beneath your seat and you will find it there all right? Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost over night? ********************************************************** Enjoyed finding your chitchat about Pops' song!! PS: He was also one of eleven founders of ASCAP which is today the largest society in the world for composers, authors and publishers!! (Pretty good for a 16year old kid who stowed away to come to America...not speaking one single word of English..... but, boy could he play the piano!!! vrfl@mediaone.net^^^ |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Greg Baker Date: 19 Nov 98 - 08:55 PM One of the questions was... "If tin whistles are made out of tin, what are fog horns made out of?" |
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Subject: Lyr Add: MY OLD MAN'S A DUSTMAN^^ From: John in Brisbane Date: 20 Nov 98 - 02:10 AM Joe, Does My Old Man's A Dustman deserve its own thread? Here are the words that were used for the original version sung by Lonnie in about 1960. I have it on a 60's compilation from UK Decca, but suspect that it may have really been a very late 50's song. TGIF John PS Have not included the witticisms between verses. I suspect that more Aussies of my fine vintage know more of the words to this song than our National Anthem, which is ...umm?
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Ralph Butts Date: 20 Nov 98 - 07:30 AM Linda...... I loved your post. You are, perhaps, the only Mudcat link to Tin Pan Alley, so stick around and send us some more goodies. ....Tiger |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Steve Parkes Date: 20 Nov 98 - 07:46 AM First of all, John - 'daisy roots' is right, it's cockney rhyming slang for boots ... I expect Aussie r.s. has something different? Second, and generally, Lonnie Donegan was very prone to making changes to trad tunes & lyrics and then putting "new words and new music: Donegan" on the record label. The significance is that he gets royalties then, of course. You could be excused for wondering if new words and new music doesn't make a completely new song, of course. No wonder Alan Lomax got upset about Rock Island Line! I've got a couple of vinyl 78's of his, one is Puttin' on the Style, I forget what the other one is. That would make them about 1957, when they stopped issuing 78s in the UK. Last, you all might be interested to know that LD's first name isn't Lonnie at all (forget what it is). He was on the same bill as Lonnie Johnson way back, and the mc, who probably hadn't heard of either of 'em, got the names mixed up. Steve |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Craig Date: 20 Nov 98 - 10:55 PM Linda. That was wonderful. Just as I remember it from my long lost youth. Thanks. Please keep posting. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Craig Date: 20 Nov 98 - 11:02 PM Now that I think about it there were some spoken lines near the ending. Something like "A dollor is a dollor and a dime is a dime, ------------ but I haven't got the time. Could someone fill that in for me. Thank you. Craig |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Barbara Date: 20 Nov 98 - 11:18 PM I'd sing another chorus, but... |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Ervin Date: 22 Dec 98 - 07:59 PM I have a 78 rpm copy of this song by Lula Belle & Scotty on a FM label which includes another verse of this song: "The nation rose as one and sent it's favorite son, to the Whitehouse, this mighty nation's lighthouse. He saw the president and said that I've been sent to solve the burning question that invloves the continent: Does the spearmint lose it's flavor on the bedpost......." The first and last verses (three total) are exactly as included in the 08 Jan 1998 message from Dale Rose. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Bill Sables Date: 22 Dec 98 - 08:18 PM Eddie McIntire from Newcastle on Tyne wrote a parody Does your brown ale lose its flavour in the bed pan overnight Do you wish you hadn't drunk it when you stagger home half tight Does your bladder feel exhausted when you're up and down all night Does your brown ale lose its flavour in the bed pan over night It was written in the 60s about Newcastle Brown Ale but I only remember the last verse Bill Sables |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: GUEST Date: 24 Jun 03 - 01:46 AM A dollar is a dollar, and a dime is a dime. I'd like to sing another chorus, but I have'nt go the time |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: PoppaGator Date: 24 Jun 03 - 03:37 PM In my recollection, there was *one* recording of this tune that achieved "hit" status in the US during the rock 'n' roll era - early 60s or maybe late 50s. It was played very regularly for a while on Top Forty radio out of New York City (WABC, among other stations), and remains the only recorded version I ever knew well. My parents were familiar with the tune, so I know that at least one earlier version had also become well-known. I seem to remember thinking the artist I heard was Australian (perhaps only because I am associating it, rightly or wrongly, with "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport," a vaguely similar novelty song), but now I wonder whether it was English skiffle icon Lonnie Donnegan. I don't know that I've ever heard any of Lonnie's work, only know about him from reading about the Beatles and their early interests and influences. But I *did* hear that one recording of "Chewing Gum" that was on Top the radio during my late childhood/early teens, and wonder who *that* artist might have been. The lyrics about the "favorite son" going "up to the White House," attributed above to Lula Belle & Scotty on an old 78, sound familiar to me from that version -- moreso than do the Donnegan quotes -- maybe that's a clue (??) When I saw the thread title, my immediate reaction was that "Spearmint" was incorrect, it should say "Chewing Gum." Thanks to Linda for the true story about the origins of this song! |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Jim Dixon Date: 25 Jun 03 - 03:40 PM PoppaGator: I'm reasonably certain it was Lonnie Donegan's version you heard. I'm aware of only one other song recorded by him that got any airplay on US top-40 radio stations, and that was "Rock Island Line." Donegan was much more famous in Britain than in the US, and just about single-handedly invented the skiffle movement there – that's what they called American folk music in Britain. I believe skiffle started there even earlier than the folk revival in America in the 1950s and 60s. The two movements overlapped, but I think skiffle was already fading in Britain while folk music was still rising in the US. (Correct me if I'm wrong—I'm sure someone will think so!) Coincidentally, it was the rise of American rock 'n' roll in Britain that replaced skiffle, and it was the "British invasion" by the Beatles and others that replaced folk in the US. AMG – The All Music Guide has some enlightening essays on Donegan, skiffle, and the folk revival. It was Rolf Harris who wrote and recorded "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport." Likewise, he had (I think) only one other minor hit in the US: "Sun Arise." |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: JennyO Date: 26 Jun 03 - 12:35 AM Wot about "Jake the Peg"? |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Santa Date: 26 Jun 03 - 04:18 PM In 1966 I attended a science-fiction convention in Great Yarmouth, and stayed at a small hotel, not the convention hotel. It was said to have been bought on the proceeds of "Does your chewing gum lose its flavour", by the writer thereof. It seems not. The things you learn on Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: GUEST,keith hall Date: 24 Jun 04 - 07:25 AM you all forgot the jokes lonnie had said in his 1961 version, of which i have on the computer. and love this version i crack up all the time. ;D here are the jokes lonnie had in it 1. Is a Gold Tooth a Flash in the pan? 2. If King Tut got sick would i call his mummie? 3. If i crossed a turkey with a kangaroo would i stuff it from the outside? i never can make out the other words so thanks for those that posted lonnies :D |
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Subject: RE: Lyric: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: fiddler Date: 24 Jun 04 - 07:42 AM I've drunk all kinds of hops I've drunk all kinds of slops From ??? to pale ale It's landed me in Jail Drinkin's brought me sorrows Brinkins bought me joys I know waht you are saying It will bring me heamorroids Chorus everyone. |
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Subject: seven daffodils/lonnie donnigan From: GUEST,kay Date: 31 Aug 05 - 03:37 PM hi all, i recently heard this song sang (seven daffodils) by a local male voice choir and it blew me away, one of the guys told me it's one of Lonnie's, can anyone tell me where i can hear it again on my pc? thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: GUEST,JKBTeacher Date: 29 Nov 07 - 09:05 PM FYI: This marvelous song was written my late great uncle Marty Bloom along with the late great Billy Rose and the late great Ernest Breuer. My Uncle Marty was, at one time, the manager for two Jazz Legends - the late great Fats Waller and the late great Ferdinand "Jelly Roll" Morton. He even did some sound effects for Jelly Roll's band. In addition, he composed the 1927 song "Melancoly"(sp?) The late great Lonnie Donnegan made the world famous recording in 1959. Later, the Irish Rovers also made a wonderful recording. You can here the Irish Rovers' recording on U-Tube. Please check out World War One Draft Registration Cards for more information. Enjoy! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: GUEST,JKBTeacher Date: 29 Nov 07 - 09:14 PM Try: WWI Draft Registration Cards |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Mo the caller Date: 30 Nov 07 - 09:22 AM A lot of square dance callers make up 'singing calls' giving the instructions for a dance to the tune, & interspesed with snippets of the original words, of popular songs. The caller Joh Meechan thought that, as he is English, he would use a typically English song from his childhood, rather than an American or Country & Western song. So he wrote an excellent dance, but does call it now, he got fed up with it being requested too often. Can't remember all of it but it ends "You promenade your partner on the bedpost overnight" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: GUEST,Marty in GA Date: 28 Apr 08 - 11:34 AM Does anyone know the answer to the riddle in the song....If tin whistles and made out of tin, What are fog horns made out of? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Snuffy Date: 28 Apr 08 - 07:15 PM I haven't the foggiert idea |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 28 Apr 08 - 07:53 PM Wrigley's Spearmint has sold out to Mars Bars. Somehow that flavor won't be the same. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: GUEST,Captain Colin. Date: 28 Apr 08 - 07:56 PM There is no answer Marty. The "joke" (if it can statutorily be called such) is in the question itself- the supposed humour lying in the suggestion that if tin whistles are made out of tin, fog horns should logically be made out of... fog. Hardly side splittingly funny I know, but that's it. What the drummer shouts is just "boom boom"- an exclamation traditionally used, in imitation of two beats of a bass drum, to signify to an audience that the joke's been delivered in its entirety- just in case there's any doubt. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 28 Apr 08 - 07:59 PM And French horns are made out of f- ? Okay, forget it. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor? From: Bill D Date: 29 Apr 08 - 12:02 PM Obvious, some Foghorns have drumsticks. |
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