Play the Ear Training Game

Subject: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 10:25 PM

I just happened onto this Ear Training Game on the Net4Music site and thought some folks here might enjoy it. There are exercises to test and develop both the harmonic and rhythmic ear.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 11:05 PM

VERY KUHL - Thank you

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Benjamin
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 11:42 PM

Garg's right! VERY KUHL! I like it!

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 11:44 PM

Will try it tommorrow - see if it can get me through some of my blind spots with music.

Jon

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 11:51 PM

Great, thanks! My sister will like using that with some of her students, too!

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 12:00 AM

Fun site Mark!! Thanks for the post!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 12:57 AM

I liked it, but I don't think the chord one was working properly. (Now, I know it's quite possible I made a mistake, but it seemed to me that every time I heard a Cmaj7 and clicked on it, the game told me I was wrong.) I'll have to explore that site some more, later. Thanks, Mark!

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 01:03 AM

Oh my, gargie has a new word---kuhl. I'll check out the site tomorrow when I can turn the sound up."Their selves" are all in bed just now, and I should be too.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Benjamin
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 02:22 PM

Mark,
For a CMaj7 chord, listen for the leading tone. Or the M7 interval. Which ever one you find easier to hear.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 03:32 PM

MARK

Wow, there is A LOT of good stuff besides that game there, easily place to loose a couple of hours.

Thanks Again.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 03:44 PM

Mark, I'm having the same problem with the Cmaj7. hmmmmmm

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:21 PM

Gargoyle, Yeah it's a good site. Sort of an MP3.com for sheet music. You can publish, download, read articles and play musical games and quizes. I first learned about it through a program I use called Finale. The program includes a menu choice for publishing one's work on Net4Music.

Mark and Mary, I don't know what to tell you. I too have dropped the Cmaj7 into the score only to be told that I was wrong. I remain convinced, however, that I actually was wrong. Repetitions of the game have given me a much faster accurate recognition time. Take some time, before beginning the game, to click on the three chords in various sequences to help cement not only the sound of each chord but also its tonality in relation to each of the others.

Good luck,

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Cappuccino
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:36 PM

Great site, thanks. I'm now convinced that the only ear test I can pass is to count whether I've still got one each side...

- IanB

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Willa
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:39 PM

Thanks, mark, I'm having fun with this. another site bookmarked thanks to Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 04:56 PM

Mark, have you ever reached level two in the chord training? I can get more than five in a row without the "buzz," but I never advance.

Also, are some of the chord sounds really a different inversion of the chord? Initially I was listening to the highest note. Then I tried a different approach. I no longer get the "buzz" for a wrong answer, but I never get to level two.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 05:36 PM

Same here, Mary, I keep getting a lot past five with no buzzer for a wrong one and never advance to Level two regardless.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 06:07 PM

I always—well, eventually—get to the second level. When I've completed five correct answers in a row I hear applause and the game moves to level two where I have to complete two chords instead of one. Of course if I miss one, I'm back to zero and must start over.

Have you checked to see that you have the latest Shockwave Flash software from Macromedia?

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 06:21 PM

Well, I just played the first game (C6, C7, Cmaj7) again and played straight through both levels with no misses.

I don't hear any odd inversions as I play the game. The chords seem to sound as they look in the notation. Still, I'm not listening to any particular tone, I'm trying to listen to the “character” of the chord. I think a goal would be to recognize the cord in any inversion.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 06:43 PM

I don't use most of those chords. What I want is something that helps me to be quicker at spotting what key we're playing in, more especially when we change keys in the middle of a set. Or when we're playing one of those tunes which keep on switching back and forth between keys.

And more particularly when I'm playing with a capo on some peculiar fret, because someone else is playing the guitar as well, and it's getting a bit crowded if we both play in the base position.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 07:05 PM

APPLAUSE!!!!!!!! I wasn't moving the chord up to the sheet music. I bet Mark is doing the same thing. (Mark, you need to drag it with your mouse.)

It works now...I got to level two! I knew the rhythm was easy, but I just couldn't get the chords to work.

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM

McGrath, I don't think the point of the game is to teach those particular chords, the purpose is to train the ear to hear particular intervals. In the case of the C6, C7, Cmaj7 series, you are listening to a C major triad played consistantly throughout the series with a single moving interval to differentiate the others. It's the interval recognition that's important. Personally, I can't tell a C6 from an Em7. <g>

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 10:22 PM

Oops, I meant to say I can't tell a C6 from an Am7. I can tell the difference between C6 and Em7.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: alison
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 11:25 PM

well its a lot easier when you know you have to drag them... thanks Mary...

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Gary T
Date: 12 Dec 01 - 09:23 AM

C6 has the same four notes as Am7. If you allow inversions, they might as well be the same chord. If inversions are not allowed, it might be possible to tell the difference, but it might take a Jedi master to do so.:-)

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Mark Clark
Date: 12 Dec 01 - 11:58 AM

Yes, I know. That was the reason for my <g> ornament.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Play the Ear Training Game
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 12 Dec 01 - 12:24 PM

Thanks Mark. Good fun, good ear stuff, good visual practice. Now if I could just get my friend (Mr. X) who transcribes stuff for me to write THAT clearly!

You're on a roll this week, guy!

Rick