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Subject: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 24 Dec 01 - 11:06 PM Today in the town of David a saviour has been born to you, he is Christ the Lord.You will find a baby wrapped in cloths an lying in a manger.Glory to God in the highest,and on earth peace to men whom his favour rests. (Luke 1,11-14) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Bud Date: 25 Dec 01 - 10:11 AM Appreciate the sentiment, but it sounds much better in a traditional version. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Blackcatter Date: 25 Dec 01 - 11:49 AM GUEST,Bud, What exactly do you consider to be a "traditional version"? Maybe the original Greek in which Luke probably wrote it? Or are you critcizing that John has a slightly different translation of the New Testament? By the way John, it is actually Luke *2*,11-14 - not that big of a deal. pax yall
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Dec 01 - 01:07 PM Only at Mudcat would a Christmas sentiment become a discussion of which version is more authentic! *G* Merry Christmas! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 25 Dec 01 - 01:37 PM Oi, vey!! Vot's der big deal?? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Devilmaster Date: 25 Dec 01 - 02:15 PM Way to go guys..... we've all done it. We've ruined Christmas! Steve :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 25 Dec 01 - 02:50 PM (New international version) Happy Christmas everybody! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Irish sergeant Date: 25 Dec 01 - 09:25 PM Lovely sentiment. No argument. By the way the most current research indicates that given the astronomical event described in the Bible that Jesus was actually born in the spring. The church chose this day because it neatly turned the pagan festival of Saturnalia into a Christian religious holiday (History lesson for the day) The more important sentiment is why he came not when. Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Devilmaster Date: 25 Dec 01 - 09:36 PM Geez guys, can't we just blindly believe anymore? Next you all tell me there isn't a Santa Claus. Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Irish sergeant Date: 26 Dec 01 - 03:31 PM The way i see it when he was born and what the celebration was doen't negate the power and majesty of his message. Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 26 Dec 01 - 03:36 PM I don't see a lot of power and majesty in the translations of his message, to be honest with you. It's a long and slippery slide from "The Kingdom is within you" and "Greater things than I do ye shall do..." to "If you say three Hail Marys I will decree you are forgiven for getting laid last Saturday." From the majesty of the individual soul reincarnate to the social control of guilt and scary icons of wrath and damnation. A long way down indeed. Ah, well, no-one said bishops were infallible. Just Kings and Popes, right? Sheeshe. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 03:39 PM Actually, the King James bible (ca 1611) is the "traditional" English version most of us think of, and while it is beautifully written, was done in a purposely "antique" style even then! The events described in the scriptures would have been originally spoken in Aramaic [and I don't think "The Holly & the Ivy" would scan well in Aramaic, or even Greek or Latin, quite frankly! Now "Rudolph...", THAT would be a different story ;~)! ]. Jesus was borrn during lambing time, when "shepherds keep watch over their flocks by night", so it was certainly springtime. But those early Church fathers were nothing if not clever & cunning in adapting the new religious observances to old customs: people have always had some sort of mid-winter festival, so they just changed its name! Pax, D. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:21 PM You mean Shepherds only kept watch over their flocks at night during lambing season? Around here, in Connecticut, we kept a flock of sheep at the Museum where I worked, and even though it's a lot colder here in the winter than it was in Bethlehem we often had a lamb or two born during January or February. Depends on when the rams have their way, you know. And if there were shepherds in the fields, where were the sheep dogs? Sheesh! they have oxen and donkeys, and doves and even little drummer boys, but no mention of sheep dogs. They were probably working and didn't have time to stop in at the manger. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Celtic Soul Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:22 PM Sometimes, you just have to let the words be what they are and appreciate them just as they are. Thanks for reminding us that the word "Christmas" has "Christ" in it. :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:49 PM Oh, those rams....! I just heard of an interesting holiday tradition from Albania: on Christmas morning, the family dog (or other household pet) gets the first bite of breakfast, in honour of the animals who were in the stable. Nice, innit? Only it gives the dogs false expectations for December 26th! BTW, Jerry, did you sing the Swedish drinking songs Christmas Eve? We did, although my American children give them a purely phonetic treatment; it's rather like the telephone game---by the time they get to our grandchildren, no Swede will have the faintest clue what they're singing about! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 26 Dec 01 - 06:05 PM Hi, Desdemona:
Nope, no Swedish songs. I would have liked it though, and have come to love Scandinavian music. My Grandmother came here as a teenager, from Denmark and worked on a level slightly above an indetured slave for the Diamond family... the ones of Diamond Match... wrote a song about my Grandparents with the line, "Grandma worked for diamonds, she started at the top." My Grandfather came over her from Denmark in his early twenties as a tinsmith. They met singing in the church choir in a little Danish Settlement in Wisconsin. For reasons never known to me, my Father strongly rejected anything Danish, so I might as well be sixth generation. What little I know, I've picked up myself. When my wife and I married, we had an African/Danish wedding. The African culture is much easier to learn about than the Danish. I know several people who were married in Denmark, and it sounds like they might as well have been married in Cleveland. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 26 Dec 01 - 06:15 PM Sorry, Desdemona... we didn't sing any Swedish songs.. My father's parents were Danish, but we didn't sing any Danish songs, either.
My Grandmother came over to this country from Denmark as a teenager to work as a housemaid for the Diamond family... those of the Diamond Match fortune. I wrote a song about my Grandparents with the line, "Grandma worked for Diamonds, she started at the top." My Grandpa was a tinsmith in Denmark and came over her as a young man. He met my Grandmother singing together in the church choir of a little Lutheran church in a Danish settlement in Wisconsin. I never heard either of them sing, though. My Father, for reasons he never explained, rejected everything about his Danish heritage, so what I know, I've learned from reading, and collecting Scandinavian music (very little of which is Danish.) My wife is African-American and we had an amazing ten days in Ghana last year. We had planned to go to Denmark this spring, but ended up buying a house, so we had to put it off.
I was the narator for a Santa Lucia festival at a Lutheran Church a few years ago... a beautiful story. I also was narator for a story about Tomtens (know what they are? If you do, you're the first person I've ever met who does.) Thanks for dog tradition! Maybe if we gave the first bite of breakfast to our dogs every day we wouldn't have so much trouble getting into our jeans, as another thread mentioned.. Jerry
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:06 PM Jerry, Excellent thought; I've just gone out & bought a whole PACK of ravenous canines; I should be able to get into that New Years' dress after all! An African/Danish wedding sounds fascinating & fabulous; I think you're right about the Scandinavian culture being a bit difficult to break into. After 15 years of marriage I think I'm actually starting to "get it"; my husnand and I have running jokes about Lutherans & their general lack of rhythm---occasionally our church will throw in a hymn like "Go Tell It On the Mountain" or "Shall We Gather at the River", and we whisper: "ah, the Lutheran arrangement"! My parents are a lapsed Church of England mother who attended Catholic school pre-Vatican II (lots of Latin; LOTS of guilt!!!), and a thoroughly lapsed 2nd generation eastern orthodox father whose most Greek characteristic is the unbelievably good recipes he learnt from his mother! Since my husband at least HAD a church tradition, that was the one we got married & baptised kids in. Overall, it's been nice, and the history is interesting (16th & 17th centuries being among my areas of study). Oh, and there's that book that came out a few years back, "Lutheran Humour and Other Myths"!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: katlaughing Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:12 PM Jerry, that would make a wonderful children's book! I am sorry for your loss of Blewyn. I can well believe a border collie fulfilling such a role. We've had our first one, Merlee, a McNab found quite by *accident*, for about five years now and I've never known a more stalwart, steadfast, eager to please, watchful, and smart dog! Desdemona, thanks for mentioning the original language of Aramaic. Do you know of the book by Charles Fillmore, "The Metaphysical Bible Dictionary?" The translations and meanings are based on the original Aramaic. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:25 PM Kat--no, I don't know that one; I'll check it out. I've always thought it would be fascinating to be able to examine the various differences in interpretation that must have occurred over a couple millenia of translation & re-translation...there's that telephone game again! Jerry---I'll buy your book as soon as it's published; border collies are indeed amongst the sweetest of dogs, and well-deserving of that first rasher of bacon! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Irish sergeant Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:32 PM Well spoke! I had a border collie when I was young and they're well deserving of the first two rashers of bacon. Best of luck on the children's book, it's a great idea! Kindest reghards, Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:45 PM Now that is a legend I can get behind!! Ravenous Border Collies on December 25th...an annual tradition!! Happy RBC day!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:49 PM Yes, and it can even be a proper saint's day: the Feast of St Blewyn the Greater, patron of ravenous border collies! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: catspaw49 Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:51 PM Ya' know at times this place drives even me nuts. I'm a true agnostic, but I can appreciate the sentiment and feeling expressed by John without nitpicking it to death. I purposefully didn't open this thread thinking it was probably worse than it is.......so congrats on that anyway..............Geeziz, there are really times when a good story or a nice thought should simply be let stand isn't there? Maybe I'm just in post-Christmas shock. Yeah, that must be it.....But thanks anyway John....Hope you enjoyed your holiday in all ways. And just to show I haven't lost that "Let's nitpick everyting" spirit of Mudcat, Jerry, that's a wonderful story and would make a fine children's book but rumor has it that use of dogs for herding wasn't really done much until the 8th-9th century although for domestic and hunting, they were well known before. Perhaps you could have your dog belonging to the Innmaster who was a hunter on the side. Yeah....maybe you make it look like a Pharoah Hound and you might have something...........geeziz, but this place does drive me nuts sometimes.... I'll be looking forward to your book Jerry with any kind of dog!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 07:55 PM Ah, yes, the mysterious "Pharoah Border Collie", beloved of grumpy pre-Christian era innmasters.....;~) ! You don't mean to say you didn't know about that, do you?! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:01 PM Lutheran rhythm. An oxymoron. Back when I was going to a Lutheran church, I organized a potluck dinner/gospel sing between my Lutheran church and a black baptist church across the street. I led half of the singing, and the musical Director of the Baptist Church led the other half. On one of the songs, Dan Williams, the Men's Chorus Director asked everyone to hold their hands over their heads and sway in rhythm to the gospel song. The Lutheran minister said, jokingly, "Don't stand to close to me, I might end up hitting you on the side of the head." Yes, there's nothing like a Lutheran Choral arrangement of an old black gospel song. Kind of like "near-beer." Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Desdemona Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:05 PM Yes, and *ALMOST* as satisfying!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 26 Dec 01 - 08:09 PM I really didn't mean to post the message twice. I think that my computer must be having the Post-Christmas blahs, because it's doing strange things.. Sorry, Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 27 Dec 01 - 12:26 PM Refreshing this for a couple of friends.. Jerry |
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Subject: O Savior Where art thou? SoulCatcher? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Dec 01 - 01:39 PM It seems like so many threads on Mudcat end up the same. Merry Christmas John! We may nitpick but we do get the idea! Thanks to you also Jerry, little stories like that are one of the best things about The 'Cat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Clinton Hammond Date: 27 Dec 01 - 01:55 PM Hey devilmaster! Sure there's a Santa... He's tied up in my basement a la "Pulp Fiction" right beside Jesus, and the easter Bunny! :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Devilmaster Date: 27 Dec 01 - 05:00 PM hey Clinton...... I always knew you'd come out of the closet and admit you were 'the gimp' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Clinton Hammond Date: 27 Dec 01 - 05:01 PM LOL!!!!! The sunlight!! It burns!!! IT BURNS!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: sian, west wales Date: 05 Jan 02 - 12:44 PM Write the book Jerry. Blewyn always liked a good story. sian |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 23 Dec 02 - 07:17 PM refresh, happy birthday for tomorrow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: khandu Date: 23 Dec 02 - 08:14 PM As to His birthday, whenever it actually was, all I will say is this; "Thanks for coming; come again soon!" khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Dec 02 - 02:31 AM So did the book get written? I've got several different stories for children, interpretations of the message from the perspective of several animals, Joseph's donkey being one of them.... she's at the birth and later takes him into Jerusalem (about 32 years later), and he remembers her. To have one about his dog would be lovely. So...... ? LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 24 Dec 02 - 07:44 AM I still have a folder with ideas and a couple of pages in my file cabinet. Somehow real life impinged this year. It's still a good idea, though. Maybe it's meant to be a song, instead, as I've never written a story.. It's been a real treat, re-reading this thread... Thanks for finding and refreshing it, Khandu. And a Merry Christmas to all! Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Oaklet Date: 24 Dec 02 - 10:26 AM jOhn, I understand that you have a loathing for the things that have been done to Christmas. Your opening post was fab. Good luck jOhn - this place wouldn't be half as good without you9. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 24 Dec 03 - 06:38 AM Thanks Oaklet! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Clinton Hammond Date: 24 Dec 03 - 08:35 AM Wow... a whole year to say thank you... Nice use of sarcasim Oak... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bobert Date: 24 Dec 03 - 08:36 AM The date is irrelevant... It's our Lord's birth, life, teachings, love and ,yes, his death that I will be reflecting upon. Praise to the Lord. I love you. Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: tar_heel Date: 24 Dec 03 - 10:25 AM as tiny tim once said..."GOD BLESS US ALL!" merry christmas from chuck and peg hemrick...aka,tarheel |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Dec 03 - 10:36 AM And just to forestall the necessity of debating about the actual date: "A very merry un-birthday, to You, to You!" Whatever the date, He's still the Reason for the Season. BTW, some translations have, instead of "I am the Truth," "I am Reality." Now, even atheists can take God entirely out of the equation-- being thankful for Reality itself???!!! Can I get an Amen on that at least? To be glad to be alive and to celebrate life in ourselves and one another? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 24 Dec 03 - 10:41 AM I'm grateful enough for reality, but see no benefit in iconifying it. But ya know what? I don't think it's about a birthday. As far as I am concerned the spirit of Christmas is transcendental, and has to do with human love far more than it has to do with super-human identities. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Clinton Hammond Date: 24 Dec 03 - 10:56 AM "He's still the Reason for the Season." Actually, I'm pretty sure his PR men co-opted the celebration... "has to do with human love far more" I'll drink to that A! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Dec 03 - 10:59 AM Amos, if you just would ease your grip on that oldest of all your argumentative insistencies, you would see that I said something very much like that, actually. An annualized reminder is not such a bad thing, but a good thing of some usefulness. Why argue over degrees of goodness instead of simply soaking up what is good, and reflecting it back out????? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bill D Date: 24 Dec 03 - 12:22 PM I'm glad I'm here...I'm glad YOU'RE here...no matter what we attribute it to... A VERY happy end-of-the-year-solstice season with whatever added birthdays and celebrations YOU are partial to. Pax vobiscum |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Dec 03 - 12:59 PM Feckin' A! (hi Bill) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bill D Date: 24 Dec 03 - 01:26 PM dat am feckin' AYE! *grin* (learned discussions elsewhere) (hi, yerself) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Raedwulf Date: 24 Dec 03 - 06:14 PM He's definitely *not* the reason for the season, just a... Aw, Hel (no, no mis-spelling) I won't go there, I'd get flamed to buggery. JC was born in September, the rest of it is montheistic hijacking. Myrge Geol! Rædwulf |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: khandu Date: 24 Dec 03 - 07:31 PM Indeed! Happy Birthday, my King! Thanks for coming. . . Please come again soon! ken |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 24 Dec 03 - 09:04 PM The season is in your heart, Raedwulf... celebrate in September, if you like... most folks think he was born in the spring. The most important birth is in your heart.. Have a Merry, whenever you feel it's the right time.. Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:24 PM sarcasm. jOhn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:26 PM anyway=this is music site, not spelling site! its the message thats important, not the spelling. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,jOhn Date: 24 Dec 05 - 08:05 AM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Yuler Date: 24 Dec 05 - 09:00 AM Happy Bday when it comes Jesus. Mark your Calendars! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,A Date: 24 Dec 05 - 09:31 AM Being such a new person to this place, I had never seen this thread until today. Sorta' wish I could still say the same. Spaw, I hope you are feeling as well or better than when this thread started in 2001. Did not know you then but have heard good things about you. I know it was a tough Autumn. A Blessed Noel to you (Agnostic statement noted) and whomever else shares this concept. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,jOhn Date: 25 Dec 07 - 12:34 AM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,KT not logged in Date: 25 Dec 07 - 12:51 AM Hi John. Happy Christmas to you! KT |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 25 Dec 07 - 10:31 AM Raedwulf, if you're still around after all this time, would you mind explaining why you say he was born in September? I'd never heard that claim before. (If indeed that was not a joke that just flew over my head.) Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Emma B Date: 25 Dec 07 - 10:42 AM 'No one knows the actual day that Jesus was born. Attempts to calculate an exact date often fall into two schools of thought. Both methods depend on counting from the "course of Abijah." A course was a specific time when priests served in the temple. The first method begins with Luke 1:5, 8 where we read that Zechariah, the father of John the Baptist, was serving in the course of Abijah in the temple. 1 Chronicles 24:7-19 indicates that there were 24 courses. The assumption is that the eighth course was the course of Abijah and that this period of service started in early June. Assuming this conclusion to be accurate, some believe that we can count forward to discover the dates of birth for John the Baptist, and then by deduction, Jesus (born about six months after John, see Luke 1:24-36).' Therefore, assuming that Elizabeth became pregnant right away, and that the pregnancies of both Mary and Elizabeth were normal in terms of length, John the Baptist would have been born in March, nine months after his conception in June. According to this calculation, Jesus might have been born in the month of September. For some, the fact that the autumn festivals of the Old Testament begin at this time adds credibility to these calculations..' © Worldwide Church of God. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 25 Dec 07 - 02:20 PM That's an awful fine clump of assumptions, if'n you ask me which you would probably rather not. But I don't much mind what day Jesus was born, or Mahatma Gandhi, Genghis Khan, or Alberto d'Einstein either. I fail to see that the day of birth adds or subtracts a jot or a tittle tot he equation of the good that has been done, or the harm that has been wrought, in their names. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Ron Davies Date: 25 Dec 07 - 03:21 PM If it's good enough for the Right Honorable, it's good enough for me. Why not? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Stringsinger Date: 25 Dec 07 - 07:00 PM Mithra(s) the Persian Sun God was born on December 25. I think that in accordance with the Jesus legend, he was born on what they call Epiphany, Jan 6 or 8, I forget which. The point of Christmas for me is simply "Peace on Earth and good will toward all. It's a great time to be with friends and family. Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukkah, Happy Kwanza, Happy Ramidan and for us non-believers, Happy Soltice. Frank Hamilton |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bobert Date: 25 Dec 07 - 07:36 PM Think I'll just stick with my last post to this thread back in '03, thank you and... ...Merry Christmas to you all, except those of you who have not accepted Christ as your Savior and for you all, just have a... ...merry day... Think that covers it... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: goatfell Date: 26 Dec 07 - 05:29 AM Yes Happy Birthday Jesus |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Ron Davies Date: 26 Dec 07 - 11:11 PM Indeed, why not? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Emma B Date: 28 Dec 07 - 02:05 PM an 'ooops' moment from a British supermarket .... '" Brits will on average be enjoying over 3.5 eggs each over the Easter weekend alone. But over a quarter don't know why handing them out symbolises the birth of Jesus. . . ." Press release from Somerfield, April 3' quoted today on BBC Radio 4's The Now Show* :) *just in case any dinkies wonder why this is a few months late too ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Ron Davies Date: 28 Dec 07 - 02:19 PM or at least the birth of rabbits. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,jOhn Date: 24 Dec 08 - 07:24 PM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bobert Date: 24 Dec 08 - 07:27 PM What I said last year... Happy Birthday, Big Guy... Sho nuff love you... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: gnu Date: 24 Dec 08 - 08:33 PM Best wishes from the fly infested bog country of Kent County, New Brunswick. Well, not right now. No flies. It was -23 yesterday. And, the hurricane force winds woulda blown the flies clear off ya. Of course, after the snow stops, we are to get ice pellets and then freezing rain followed by rain, which is gonna make an awful mess on top of all the snow you threw on us lately, you, you blessed holy.... guy. But, it's your day, eh? PS.... What is it with you and the flies in July? I mean, Jesus Christ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: wysiwyg Date: 24 Dec 08 - 08:54 PM Happy Belated/Early Bday, Lord. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 24 Dec 09 - 06:38 PM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,eric the viking Date: 24 Dec 09 - 07:21 PM Hey John. Nice to see you back in print. Compliments of the season to you. (00.20hrs. 25th dec) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: BusyBee Paul Date: 24 Dec 09 - 07:55 PM A Merry & Peaceful Christmas to one and all from me. (00.55hrs. 25th Dec) Deirdre |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: SINSULL Date: 25 Dec 09 - 09:09 AM Happy Festivus for the rest of us. Celebrate the day as you choose and include a wish for health, peace, and if not prosperity, at least safety. SINS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Stringsinger Date: 25 Dec 09 - 02:55 PM The problem is that people keep wanting to take the mess out of Christmess. Mithras, the Persian sun god was according to the Romans born on 12/25. Christians just appropriated that day for a birthday from the Roman festival of Brumaire. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Stringsinger Date: 25 Dec 09 - 02:57 PM PS Merry Christmas to you all regardless if you believe in a Jesus or not. And have a happy Winter Soltice and a Happy New Year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bobert Date: 25 Dec 09 - 03:00 PM And a Happy and Merry Christmas to all my fellow followers of Christ here in Mudville... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: olddude Date: 25 Dec 09 - 03:19 PM THANK YOU BOB DAN |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: gnu Date: 25 Dec 09 - 04:52 PM I ain't never been much of a follower of JC, but I can get with why some peeps are. makes a lot of sense at times and don't make no sense at other times. But, overall, Jesus is just alright with me. Doobie that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: gnu Date: 25 Dec 09 - 05:06 PM Alright. Doo Bee. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: WalkaboutsVerse Date: 25 Dec 09 - 05:17 PM Poem 230 of 230: AS GOSPELLERS HAVE SAID/CHRISTMAS SUNG SIMPLY (TUNE: D A B A G E E E D G F# G D A B A G E D A B A G E E E D G F# G D A B A G E E E D G F# G D A B A G E E D G F# G D A B A G E E D G F# G) As gospellers have said, Beneath signalling skies, On land dusty to tread, A trough in a stable Was the strawy first-bed Of a divine baby - The forgiving Godhead. A season for new hope - There then, and here now; The yuletide of goodwill - There then, and here now. In respect of this chance, Beneath bright or dark skies, Faith's the star that we glance Attending Christ's churches And trying to enhance, With singing and ritual, Our God-loving stance. A... This is on myspace , if you'd like to hear it. (C) David Franks 2003 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 24 Dec 10 - 02:48 PM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: gnu Date: 24 Dec 10 - 03:04 PM YO jOhn! Merries on the season to yourself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Ebbie Date: 24 Dec 10 - 03:24 PM Have a Happy, jOhn. Good to see you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: fat B****rd Date: 24 Dec 10 - 03:27 PM So, there you be. ATB from fB |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Georgiansilver Date: 24 Dec 10 - 04:02 PM Happy Birthday Jesus! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 24 Dec 10 - 05:02 PM Never mind Jesus--greeting to Sir John from Hull! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Dec 10 - 05:54 PM Hi, John- I've been worried about you. I hope you're doing well. Merry Christmas! -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: KT Date: 25 Dec 10 - 01:30 AM John's back! Hooray! Oh, and as far as greetings to Jesus, go, I think I'll just say "thank you." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Ed T Date: 25 Dec 10 - 07:10 AM Seems like it's mostly Merry Christmas in Canada, eh? Merry Christmas |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Dec 10 - 10:02 AM The date is off, but my Ukrainian-heritage Orthodox friend shared this: Christmas greeting - the greeter says: "KHRISTOS RAZDYETSJA" (which means "Christ is born!") and the "greetee" responds with: "SLAVITE JEHO" ("Glorify Him"). ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Bobert Date: 25 Dec 10 - 11:17 AM And, as has been going back several years on this thread, renewed thanks for the blessing of Christ, our Lord and our Savior... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Georgiansilver Date: 25 Dec 10 - 11:19 AM Amen and Amen...... There are obviously a few on here who don't know Jesus as well as I do but that's no reason not to wish Him a happy Birthday is it....?? Would you wish it to any of my other friends??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Slag Date: 25 Dec 10 - 12:41 PM Thank you Saint John of Hull. I am sitting here looking out at Hull Mountain in northern California at the moment, all covered with snow, about 30 miles to the north of my location. Good thoughts and seasons greeting to you. Exigesis and critical interpretation aside, thanks for the verses and the spirit in which given. Another way to sum it up is that it is the gift giving season. God has given us a great gift, ours to accept; a clean slate for all time and eternity. Receive Him today and a Merry Christmas to you all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: framus Date: 25 Dec 10 - 01:12 PM Over here, it's considered a bit non-u to keep reminding people of their birthday after a certain age. Slan, Davy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: gnu Date: 25 Dec 10 - 05:18 PM framus... hahahahaaa... good one. "A majority of 59 per cent says the most important thing about Christmas is that it's "a time for family," while only two in 10 said the most important thing is reflecting on the birth of Jesus Christ." Same thing, really, to any true, thinking Christian. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: framus Date: 26 Dec 10 - 01:23 PM Ah well Jesus, that's another year gone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Stringsinger Date: 26 Dec 10 - 01:47 PM Fallacy #1 is that the mythological and historical Jesus was born on December 25th, not true and substantiated. However, Mythras the Persian sun-god was born of virgin birth on December 25th. If there was a Jesus based on historical claims, he would have been born sometime in April. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: framus Date: 26 Dec 10 - 07:58 PM If the Queen can have two birthdays, surely Jesus can too. Dave. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Slag Date: 27 Dec 10 - 03:58 AM Probably August as it would be some what ridiculous to do a census and tax at winter's start. Augustus would have hit them when they had more cash on hand, after the first harvests. Yes the RCC's propensity to incorporate and co-opt elements from other religions, they would logically not want to overthrow one of the most beloved holidays of the pagan world. Around solstice would work. re two births: Wasn't it Jesus who said "Ye must be born again."?!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Dec 10 - 04:28 PM Hey, any time is a good time for a celebration. Winter is particularly good, because the weather is crummy and it's nice to have songs and food and lights and traditions to brighten things up. It's a time for warm hearts and good cheer, not for proving oneself right and somebody else wrong. If you're not from the Christian tradition, celebrate older traditions - or celebrate ALL traditions. We celebrate Christmas in the Polish tradition, since my wife and mother-in-law are of pure Polish heritage. I'm not Polish, but the food is great and the carols are pretty, so I have a great time. Mudcat tradition is that the primary purpose of this thread is to extend greetings to a Mudcat legend, Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull. Merry Christmas, John! -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,erbert Date: 27 Dec 10 - 11:00 PM .. I can certainly feel sympathy for that bloke Jesus. Knowing just what it's like having a birthday so close to xmas skinflint relatives and friends think they can get away with saving money by combining birthday and xmas presents & parties.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 28 Dec 10 - 03:57 PM i understand critics used to say luke was unreliable as quirinias was governer at a different time to lukes account but it was later discovered he had position twice so bible account was not wrong. and ceasar thought he was just ordering one of his periodic census,s and all the time it was to get Jesus born in bethlehem! thank God;the word became flesh and dwelt among us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,jOhn Date: 25 Dec 11 - 03:58 PM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Amos Date: 25 Dec 11 - 04:21 PM IF it truly be you, Sir John, the best of another Christmas to you. SPell something funny for me. So I'll know it's you!! And have a wonderful holiday season. God bless us, every one. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: ChanteyLass Date: 25 Dec 11 - 11:03 PM Don't know when he was born or even if he really lived, but the teachings attributed to Jesus are what I like, especially the Sermon on the Mount. That's reason enough for me to celebrate Christmas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST Date: 24 Dec 13 - 04:43 PM feresh |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link. Date: 24 Dec 13 - 05:31 PM .......born to raise the sons of earth, born to give them second birth,hark the herald angels sing,glory to the new born king..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Dec 13 - 05:59 PM Happy Christmas to you, jOhn. I hope you're well. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Musket Date: 25 Dec 13 - 01:55 PM It's Jesus's birthday? Happy Birthday Jesus! His mum and dad didn't fall into the usual tradition of calling him Noël I notice. I wonder if only having one lot of presents a year influenced his take on life in later years? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Blandiver Date: 25 Dec 13 - 05:26 PM Like all good Traddies we celebrate it on the 6th day of January as is only right, proper and traditional... Then Joseph took Mary All on his right knee; Pray tell me, little baby, When your birthday shall be. On the sixth day of January My birthday shall be, When the stars and the elements Shall tremble with fear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Dec 13 - 11:36 PM We've used this thread for years to check in with JOhn from Hull, a Mudcat legend. So, don't go thinking it's one of those religion debate threads. Cheers, JOhn. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Dec 13 - 03:08 AM The complete lyrics to THIS song are great year round. Merry Christmas to any and all.....whenever it comes to you! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Happy Birthday Jesus From: GUEST,Musket Date: 26 Dec 13 - 06:52 AM Tell you what Joe. Wherever Jesus comes from, it ain't Hull ..... |
