BS: Great Misquotations

Subject: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 01:19 PM

Watching the "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" a few nights ago, (one of my favorite movies) I eagerly awaited the part where the baffled bandit says to Hunphrey Bogart *We don't need no steenking badges".

Now, I have seen this movie at least six times, but had still forgotten that what the Mexican actually says is "We don't have to show you no steenking badges".

There must be many other misquotations beng happily bandied about, either literary, cinematic, sporting or whatever. Anybody know any others?

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 01:27 PM

Do re-edits count?

In which case my favorite is when Reagan turns to father Damian Carras in the TV edit of The Exorcist and says, "Your mother darns socks in hell!"

LOL!!!!!

.-)

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 01:48 PM

Probably one of the most popular quotes out there in the US culture is Vince Lombardi's "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." It is in fact a misquote. What Lombardi said was, "Winning isn't the only thing, but the desire to win is everything."

That's a considerable difference in meaning and it's a shame it is so often used to create an unrealistic attitude, especially in kids. The real quote ain't bad and puts forth a lot better message.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 01:56 PM

Spaw's got it. I was thinking about popular misconceptions of what was actually said, rather that instances of cinematic sporting or political figures mangling quotations. (Just in case anybody was confused ...)

"Play it again, Sam" is probably the most famous cinematic misquotation of all time .

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 01:57 PM

All that was said was, "Play it."

Right Murray?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Ringer
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 02:00 PM

"How the mighty are fallen." is a recent Mudcat mis-quote (can't remember which thread). S/b How are the mighty fallen.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 02:06 PM

You know, Spaw, I can't remember whether Bogey said "Play it" or "Play it, Sam".

What he didn't say was "Play it again Sam"

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 02:21 PM

The complete line is:

If you played it for her you can play it for me. Play it Sam. Play, "As Time Goes By."

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: GUEST,Deda
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:08 PM

Hamlet never said, "Alas poor Yorick, I knew him well." He said, "I knew him, Horatio", and went on to reminisce about riding on Yorick's shoulders, I think, when Hamlet was a tiny child.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Midchuck
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:16 PM

Not exactly a misquotation, more a modification...but when my daughter was running XC and skiing XC in high school, she had a sticker in her room that said:

It's not whether you win or lose - it's whether I win or lose!

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mark Clark
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:24 PM

Nikita Kruschev, pounding his shoe on the lecturn for dramatic emphasis, didn't say “We will bury you!” he said “We will bury you economically.” A very big difference.

Also, I'm told that in the context of Russian speech, “We will bury you” doesn't have the meaning “We will kill you,” it means “We will outlive you.”

      - Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mark Clark
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:42 PM

Also, Marie Antoinette evidently did not say “Let them eat cake” when told that the people had no bread. She may have said something like: “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche” or “Laissez-les manger la brioche” or even “Donnez-alors leur la brioche” but she wasn't talking about cake. Brioche is a soft, light-textured bread made from eggs, butter, flour, and yeast and formed into a roll or a bun.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:52 PM

"We don't need no stinking badges" is the way the line is used in Blazing Saddles.

Cary Grant never said "Judy, Judy, Judy" (used in who knows what ages ago with a faux Grant accent).

Henry David Thoreau said "In wildness is the preservation of the world" (this is frequently misquoted as "wilderness").

Maggie

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Metchosin
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 03:59 PM

Music hath charms to soothe the savage beast, rather than William Congreve's
"Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast,
To soften rocks, or bend a knotted oak.

I guess a lot of people haven't seen too many savage breasts running about,...watch out for that nipple...it bites.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 04:34 PM

Dan Quayle's take on the NAACP slogan, "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." He said:

To lose one's mind is a terrible thing...but not to have a mind...
Classic Quayle.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 05:07 PM

here's Humphrey Bogart Play it

"Alas, poor Yorrick, I knew him, Horatio"

and I guess it will NEVER be settled as to exactly what Churchill said about dangling participles "...nonsense up with which..."..etc...

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 07:13 PM

I was once mis-quoted as saying "No thanks, I've had enough." when what I actualy said was "I'll have four pints of lager, two double whiskies and a packet of pork scratchings."

Does that count?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 07:21 PM

Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary my dear Watson"...

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: kendall
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:02 PM

The quote, "All that glitters is not gold." It's actually "All that GLISTERS is not gold."

That abused quote about music always sends me into orbit!

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Desdemona
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:14 PM

"We are such stuff as dreams are made of" when it's actually "We are such stuff as dreams are made ON" is one; the above-mentioned line from Hamlet is another pet peeve, also the rampantly willful misunderstanding of Juliet's query: "wherefore art thou Romeo?" to be a question about where he is, rather than about WHY he has to be called that!

Oh---also "bubble bubble, toil & trouble" for "double, double, toil & trouble" in Macbeth---I could (obviously) go on and on.....fer chrissakes, if people are gonna quote Shakespeare, they should at least take the trouble to quote him CORRECTLY!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Genie
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:32 PM

Actually, I've forgotten the source of the original quotation, but it is
"The love of money is the root of all kinds [sorts?] of evil,"
NOT
"Money is the root of all evil."


One that's not a misquote but a common misattributionis the idea that "God helps those who help themselves" is from the Bible. Again, I forget where it's from, but it ain't in the Bible.

Also, Churchill did not use the phrase "blood, sweat, and tears." It was something like "blood, toil, sweat and tears. Which of you cats knows the exact quotation?

Genie

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:34 PM

Could it be that this is the Folk Process at work?

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:37 PM

Genie, your first quitation is from the Bible.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:39 PM

Hee hee Dick. Now go sit with your face to the wall until you are ready to say you are sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:45 PM

1 Timothy 6:10

"For the love of money is the root of all evil ...."

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:48 PM

Dick, I don't think we even want to get started on the misquotations in the DigiTrad...*G*

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 08:51 PM

Murray- If you see a misquote in DigiTrad, please let me know what it is. You must realize, though, that most of DigiTrad is submitted by folks who send in (hopefully) what they sing---whether or not it's what they heard.

dick (whio tries not to paint the lily nor gild refined gold)

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 09:53 PM

I am really anxious to hear how some of these bible quotations come out in the newest edition of the Bible now underway and due out in 2005. It's a "gender neutral" version which ought to offer a lot of laughs!

Truthfully, a lot of fine morals and ethics are within the the Judeo-Christian ethic and some of them are going to be really watered down in some sort of gender neutral version.....Much like the way a lot of folk songs that once had at least some sort of story to tell have been reduced to pablum with no meaning at all. But I still look forward to getting a few chuckles from it anyway.....

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 28 Jan 02 - 10:35 PM

Dick, I am of course referring only to modern composed songs with attributable authors.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: mack/misophist
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 12:03 AM

As I recall,k Churchill said "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, sweat, and tears.

Did you know he once had a price on his head?

Also, my copy of Bartlett's tells me that Marie Antoinette never said much quotable. The "let them eat cake" line was from some novel. Can't seem to remember what or who.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Kaleea
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 12:41 AM

Murray, you are correct, the misquotations are too numerous to count, and I doubt if we could come close to quoting all the misquotes. It is something I get a bit miffed about also. One of the most famous misquotations in TV & move history is "Beam me up, Scotty!" I also detest mispronounced words such as: nook-yoo-ler instead of nuclear; realtor mispronounced as: ril-uh-ter, and if you wish to win an easy $20 in a bar bet, dare someone to look up & find "perrogative" in any dictionary. It cannot be found because the word is: prerogative. And don't forget to send me my cut of all those winnings, catters!

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 01:38 AM

Brooklyn Dodger coach Leo Durocher did not say, "nice guys finish last" He said,"The nice guys are all over there. In seventh place". From my understanding, it was the media that spiced that quote up.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: kendall
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:11 AM

Not to mention, "Partic u ly" in stead of particuLARly.Or, reg u ly instead of regularly." And the most often abused word? HOPEFULLY. "Hopefully, it wont rain."

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Midchuck
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:20 AM

"Presently" used to mean "at this time" rather than "in the near future," which is the proper meaning.

"Data" used as a singular. The singular form is "Datum."

"Fund" used as a verb.

"Network" used as a verb.

Et Cetera, Et Cetera, Et Cetera.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: GUEST,Lyndi-Loo
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:21 AM

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" (often misquoted as "a woman's scorn"
Also "lay on Macduff" is ofetn quoted as "Lead on Macduff"

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:55 AM

the most recently abused word I hear these days: (mostly by female newsreaders on CNN..)

"tare-ists"...you know, those guys who hijack planes or set off bombs in crowds. arrrrgggghhhhh!!

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 10:45 AM

Pride goeth before a fall ... Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

Y'all already got the LOVE OF money being the root of all evil... and there are quizzes every once in a while, I'll see if I can find one, where they put the correct quote in, but you have to know if it's Shakespeare or the Bible!

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 10:53 AM

(them 'tare-ists' look at their reflections in a 'mirr' (mere)?.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: GUEST,Desdemona at work
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 11:17 AM

While eating an "ornj"!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 11:21 AM

Ah 'The Treasure of Sirra Madra' a classic film of it's genre complete with filthy Mehicans. It does have some other worthy quotes apart from the 'badges' one. These must be said in a heavy Mehican accent '2000 dollars for your hair and still you smell like a peeg !!' and 'I know you ! You're ze man from ze hole !'. But now and again friends go into Indian restaurants and say 'bahjees, we don't want no stinking bahjees !!'

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 11:56 AM

No I don't want no steenkin bahajees **bg**

Mae West never said "Come up and see me sometime" well not in a film, she said "Come up and see me one time" & "Come up and see me big boy".
However, I saw an interview with her on the docks and she had just arrived(maybe in Southhampton). She said it to the reporter but perhaps it was expected of her by then. I don't think the reporter got his come-uppance!

as I segue neatly into yet more seafaring
"Water water everywhere, and all the boards did shrink. Water water everywhere, nor any drop to drink."

Clock this one. She said "Play it Sam, once more for old time's sake". She also said something before that about playing the song but my memory fades "As time goes by"................

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 12:00 PM

And.........
for your 10 bonus points (fingers on the buzzer)
who played it again ?
not Sam the character, the actual singer........
(lets see how long it takes - 5 minutes I reckon)

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 12:35 PM

Dooley Wilson

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 12:35 PM

I see I am going to have to tell you..........

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 12:36 PM

Oh no you're not ....

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 01:03 PM

What was his middle name? (no I don't know but I just wanted "une petit pleasantrie")

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: kendall
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:14 PM

Why do so many people say Exit, and replace the x with a g? EGGZIT? And Luxury, Luggsury? GeneOlogy? it's genealogy. Verbal agreement? all agreements are verbal. Oral is more proper. Underneath is redundant. and "All of a sudden" think about it, sounds silly when you examine it. What's wrong with a simple "Suddenly"?

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: GUEST,colwyn dane
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:29 PM

Another piece from 'Casanblanca':

H.B. "I came to Casablanca for the waters."
C.R. "But we're in the middle of the desert!"
H.B. "I was misinformed."

"You dirty rat" was attributed to J.Cagney but during a TV interview he denied having said it.

Drifting off thread here but still in the dream factory this time movie publicity .

"Don't pronounce it - see it!" for 'Ninotchka'

"The thousands who have read the book will know why WE WILL NOT SELL
ANY CHILDREN TICKETS to see this picture!" for 'Grapes of Wrath'

"£10,000 if you die of fright!" for 'Macabre'

CD.

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:37 PM

Underneath is redundant ? Not always. Maybe when used as a preposition, not when used as an adverb.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Great Misquotations
From: rea
Date: 29 Jan 02 - 08:54 PM

Well, poseur college girls seem to think that the INdigo Girls wrote a song called "Closer to _Find_" (ergh!)

and of course, the hamlet quote, which drives me nuts.

-rea