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Subject: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:25 PM Oh God, I'm sorry, BUT......while making pancakes for dinner ("interesting, Mom") I tuned in the Sci-Fi channel, which was showing the Gem the Empath episode of "Star Trek" in which Cap'n Jim is selected as the Uber Example of the Human Condition (well, his test is conducted shirtless, while Bones remains fully dressed; 'nuff said!). The dialogue....the facial expressions....the costumes...the music...the fact that Gem is accounted "a pearl of great price", although all she ever does is make simple-minded (though totally Mod)sheep faces whilst exercising her amazing empathic powers....I was so deeply moved that I just had to share. Forgive me. I'd momentarily forgotten just what raw, animal POWER William Shatner can have over me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: MMario Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:42 PM You poor, poor, deluded and misguided creature. You are more to be pitied then envied.
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:45 PM Oh, don't I KNOW it?! Where IS that diaphanous lycra space negligee? |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Jeri Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:47 PM Desdemona, I saw the same show. What a dishrag! It would have made for a much more interesting story if she'd absorbed Bones's (He's dead, Jim) injuries and deposited them in one of those smug bald-headed aliens. Seriously, those guys pissed me off more than Gem. I mean, isn't torturing and killing folks in order to make up your mind whether a whole planet full of people is worth saving from extinction a bit...er, pompous? |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Jeri Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:49 PM Careful, or you'll get Little Hawk started... |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Peg Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:52 PM I like that episode. One of the rare times when Bones displays amorous feelings for a woman...
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Feb 02 - 07:57 PM Have you ever noticed that US TV news personalities (and actual reporters) Bill Kurtis (Inconclusive Reports) and Stone Phillips (Dateless) have the same delivery as Shatner? Did he start a TV journalism school after Star Trek? And as long as we are talking total BS, how about City Confidential? Don't you just love that disdainful, scandalmongrous Paul Winfield's work in that show? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:00 PM The dialogue is too much; I nearly burnt the pancakes! It figures that when Bones finally gets interseted in a woman she's silent, selfless & haevily made-up! (PS---I'm evil enough to WANT to get Little Hawk started!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Dave Wynn Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:01 PM I prefer the shubb capo of arcturus IV. Spot |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:04 PM It's pretty much accepted fact throughout the hallowed halls of Star Trek Fandom, that that particular episode is one of the absolute WORST ever! It was one of the last of the original series filmed, if I recall correctly... and it's no surprise that they were running out of time, money and energy at that point... The only one I can think of that I liked less was the one with the Comms and the Yanns (yanns???) Where the sacred document of the Yanns is the American Constitution of some load of bollox like that... The attempt came too late, and was too heavy handed in it's exicution, to try to make the show more popularly appealing... |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Jeri Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:18 PM Clinton, yeah - that was a dumb one. Gem wasn't the only woman the Doc was interested in. There was "Nancy," the alien salt sucker creature. Of course, it wasn't really a woman, but Bones didn't know that. "Nancy won't hurt me!...BLAM!!!...oops..." |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: GUEST,Guest Annie Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:20 PM Well, having Bones fall for a woman who is "silent, selfless & haevily made-up!" as Desdemona writes has to be better than having a Cartwright fall for a woman - those all wound up dead by the end of the episode! Annie |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:40 PM Bwahahahaha! The best line EVER about the Cartwrights was in the movie "Tin Men": "You got 3 49 year old sons with a 50 year old father; it's like, 'No, Paw, I'm ridin' in the wagon this time'!" Or words to that effect. *I* always wondered who was plucking the blonde daughter's eyebrows, teasing her hair & applying her false lashes, way out west?! |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:46 PM And he had a thing for that HOT young thing in the mini skirt on the Amusment Park planet... the one that made real everyones thoughts... And he had wood for the leader of the 'city ship' in the episode, For The World Is Hollow and I Have Touched The Sky... and he was dying then too... Oh ya... and Edith Keilor! "City at the Edge Of Forever", aka "The Cheereo of Time Stays Crunchy In Milk" He had major stuff for her... He and Jim coulda shared her I'm sure!! LOL!!!!! Bad episodes... Hell I only have to say one thing... In Bone's voice... Where Jim... Where will you look for Spocks brain?
Ug! |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 08:58 PM Clinton---you must be STOPPED ;~) !!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:04 PM No Kill I
What is that, a plea for us not to kill it, or a promise that it won't kill us? .-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Jeri Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:09 PM Edith Keilor = Joan Collins I remember the white rabbit and the knight on the horse, but I don't remember any hot young things in miniskirts. OH - how about that episode with all those space hippies who were looking for the planet "Eden," and ended up with some REALLY BAD acid? The only crew member who had any luck (IIRC) was Checkov. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:13 PM "I don't remember any hot young things in miniskirts." All the female crew members were hot young things in miniskirts... Eden... hehe...
"Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy
and the 'jam session' with Spock... ha-gaack! |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:16 PM I watched those again and again as a kid, but it has been so long now that I can't remember the episode that started this discussion. Who was the guest star? (I think this is a GOOD thing, to have forgotten those poor episodes). Wait, it's coming to me. She's has been on one of the daytime soaps for years, I think. So, if these were bad, which one's did you think were best from that series? My mom always loved "The Trouble With Tribbles," though we explained to her that the Klingon's certainly beamed them all into space right after the episode ended. Of the Star Trek the Next Generation I think the one with Patrick Stewart and Paul Winfield trapped on the planet was excellent--acting-wise. He spoke in metaphores, as I recall. Very postmodern. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:23 PM Yes, I thought that sheep...er, actress...looked familiar; anyone know who she is? |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:24 PM Was that Kathryn Hayes? I may have her confused with a different silly episode. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:25 PM Check the IMDB folks... it'd help to have the name of the episode... was it just "Gem"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:33 PM YES----the episode was called "The Empath" & the actress...er, sheep...WAS Kathryn Hayes! Ah....I feel better now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Jeri Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:36 PM I think it was Kathryn Hayes - I saw the credits briefly, but couldn't remember the name until I just saw it again. She moved as if she were dancing. I liked that metaphor episode, too. What I couldn't figure out was how they could tell stories and not understand sentence syntax. And remember the Paclids? (Ship broke. Won't go.) Some former computer systems/IT geek thought those guys up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:37 PM Aha! One can find anything with Google! It was Kathryn Hayes. See here for a link to a page about that episode. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: khandu Date: 04 Feb 02 - 09:57 PM William Shatner has had a profound effect on everything...yes, even some newsmen have affected a Shatneresque. And Shatner's PriceLine ads...they are priceless! Look at the old "Twilight Zone" programs that starred Shatner. The one about the Gremlin, the one about the table top fortune-teller; Shatner, even then, had the same mannerisms which have been mimiced by so many. Even the Mudcat Cafe has been influenced by this great man. Through several PM's, I have been told that Spaw is secretly studying Shatner's style, in an effort to capture some of Shatner's sexuality! We need Little Hawk's input. I think I'll PM him! khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 10:20 PM The Empath... ya... d'uh... I can't believe I forgot that... .-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 10:36 PM Khandu---yes, by all means, I think we all feel the lack of Little Hawk's unique insight on this subject. As to Shatner vs. Spaw: I believe it was the latter who influenced the former, in this case! Such an urbane, suave je ne sais quoi.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Ebbie Date: 04 Feb 02 - 10:41 PM My grandson and I were watching a tv show this winter with Shatner in it- at one point his face had an expression that we mimicked the rest of the day. I don't remember what the movie was about- oh, yes, it was about an agent who joined a beauty pageant. Oh- I think it was 'Miss Congeniality'. Shatner played a henchman; the expression on his face when everything was going to hell all around him cracked me up. I assume he was acting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Feb 02 - 10:42 PM He has nice horses. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 04 Feb 02 - 10:47 PM Hmmmm....cryptic equine reference; I wonder what it could mean? I always assume when Ol' Bill pulls those faces that he's just constipated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: DonMeixner Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:14 PM I have to say that I can't recall this episode at all. There were some very good episodes as I recall. The Menagerie being one of them. I liked the shoot out with the Romulan WarBird that was cloaked. It was "The Enemy Below" done in space but it was pretty OK. "Miri" was pretty good too but it had Jim's single weakest line ever. "No Blah Blah Bla!" Gimme a break. "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a script writer!" But as Jimn would say, "All right the, all ahead, warp factor one." Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Bert Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:16 PM It's times like this when the old CRS don't seem so bad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:17 PM "The Enemy Within" I think... |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: DonMeixner Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:43 PM SRS, That next generation show with Paul Winnfield was called "Darmok" or "Darmak" "....At Tinagaram, with his sails unfurled...." I think that it was considered for a Hugo Award but didn't win. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:45 PM Those renigade MudCatters that understand and access the 10,000 plus news-channels. Please begin to INVITE the other kindred souls (of this like minded being) to our "folk forum" so we can quickly establish some rules for "folk/blues discussion" ...and more quickly put irrelevancy to any earlier grave.
I will do my part....as time permits. Let the minion hords breach the walls.
Sincrely, |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:51 PM Hey Garg, I'm a space folkie... and obviously I'm not the only one... |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Feb 02 - 11:58 PM But we can bring this one back to music. They did sing a few songs in Star Trek. There were a couple in that one with Charlie, (played by Robert Walker, Jr.) and didn't Spock sing in that episode set among Roman-type gods (one with the midget moving chess pieces). Uhura sang a number of times. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: DonMeixner Date: 05 Feb 02 - 12:23 AM SRS, Yup. "Who Mourns for Adonis" The small man who played the Puck like character also played Dr Miggilitto Lovelace in The Wild Wild West. Michael Dunn, who had a very fine singing voice. I believe he died very soon after the series ended. Robert Heinlein's character, Noisy Reisling was a space poet and musician in the same stripe as Woody Guthrie. I believe that Heinlein said Guthrie was model for the character. One of Heinlein's poems The Green Hills of Earth, written by Reisling was spoken on a moon mission. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 05 Feb 02 - 01:23 AM Woooooo Oh Oh Oooooh.... Bitter dregs |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: khandu Date: 05 Feb 02 - 10:30 PM I must reiterate that Shatner has influenced everything...perhaps I need to remind you of this tidbit: There was a Star Trek episode that was entitled "Catspaw". Need I say more? Also, I must point out that without Shatner, Star Trek would have never amounted to the super-show it became (not to mention the many off-shoots it produced!). Consider this; The pilot episode feature the Trek Crew with another Capt. A Capt. Christopher Pike. (I forget the actors name...he never made it BIG.) It was considered a hum-drum production. THEN, enter the MAN, WILLIAM SHATNER! The rest is history! With out Shatner, Star Trek would have gone the way of "Turn On" or, "My Mother, the Car" As an after thought, Shatner does have fine horses, or so I hear! ;D khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Feb 02 - 11:42 PM Khandu, when your head clears from them kerosene fumes, you'll understand that Shatner named the episode himself in honor of ME! Now take off that sillyass sheet and get a cup of coffee so you can think straight.................but he does have nice horses....... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Feb 02 - 12:33 AM Khandu, The actor in the pilot was Jeffrey Hunter, who was much bigger than Shatner at the time. One reason he possibly didn't make it "big" is because he died in 1969.
This quote comes from this page. (This page also say that he apparently wanted the role of the father in The Brady Bunch. He wasn't given the role, and died before the program premiered). An amusing quote from Hunter: "I was told I had arrived when, during the shooting of "The Searchers", they gave me almost as much ammunition as they gave John Wayne. I didn't ever watch Shatner's cop show, but I did like some of his earlier work. And I really liked him on Twilight Zone as the air passenger who looks out the window to see it shredded by something on the wing. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Feb 02 - 12:52 PM Lord, lord....WHERE HAVE I BEEN????!!!! Well, I'll tell you where I've been...every year in early February the WSSBA (William Shatner School of BAAAAAD Acting) holds a Shatner immersion course, which lasts up to 2 weeks or until loss of consciousness sets in. I've been totally immersed in Shatnerology, 24 hours a day! It's like being in another world. The facial expressions! The meaningful looks! The raised eyebrows! The dramatic pauses! We, the illuminated few, the true Shatner devotees, sit up all day and night viewing selections and entire shows from the original Star Trek TV show and the movies that followed it. "The Trouble With Tribbles" remains a big favourite with many. "Mudd's Women" is a fascinating and deeply revealing treatise on the role of women in interstellar society, worth at least 50 successive viewings in order to appreciate the subtle messages it contains. Yes, it's been quite a time. Fortunately, one of my agents (they're a bunch of young lads similar to the Baker Street Irregulars...) spotted this thread and alerted me. Duty calls! I must point out that Spaw is indulging in fantasies of the most extreme sort in suggesting that the show "Catspaw" was named after him! This is so sad. It's terrible what envy can do to people. William Shatner is simply Soooo sexy and commanding that he causes most other males to feel extremely insecure. And that's to say nothing of his acting ability. There are few men who could even comprehend such an acting technique...let alone master it! And that, my friends, is why the WSSBA was founded. We have courses that can confer upon you at least an approximation of the sheer animal intensity and the subtle style and sophistication of William Shatner. All that's required is your money...your time...and your complete dedication to the sacred cause of Shatnerology. Need I say more? - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 06 Feb 02 - 12:57 PM Oh please... Shatner is a fat ugly git... A few more pounds and a little less hair and he could be a folk singer! Leonard Nemoy and George Takai (sp?) were the 2 really good actors on the show, with Deforest Kelly a close 3rd... Hell, Shatner was out-acted by the tart who played Rhand 9 times out of 10... |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: catspaw49 Date: 06 Feb 02 - 01:06 PM Hawk, there is so little to say about Shatner that you are now repeating the same stuff for the 9681st time. Your prodigious yet feeble attempts to promote him have been sad to watch. I will however agree that he has nice horses. I don't think he likes horses though since he has stated explicitly it is a case of penile envy which attracts him.......I mean he has his own little "PeeWee Herman Stall" built for his personal use in his stud barn. Word has it that he has taken to eating TizWhiz in the hopes it will increase his size beyond it's current cocktail wienie proportion. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 06 Feb 02 - 01:23 PM Oh, my God---can this be TRUE?! I....I....I just don't know what to BELIEVE anymore!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Feb 02 - 02:01 PM Don't listen to him, Desdemona...he's consumed with rank jealousy. Bill is THE MAN. We all know he is. It's a fact that cannot be disputed. If you've ever seen Spaw in a harvest gold lycra T-shirt, you know what I mean...cute, chubby, kinda loveable...but sexy? Is the Easter Bunny sexy? I don't think so. We should buy Spaw some of those little finger cots to cheer him up... Clinton, you may be right about the aforesaid "tart", but...can anyone remember her name? :-) - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Clinton Hammond Date: 06 Feb 02 - 02:14 PM Absolutely LH... her name is Grace Lee Whitney... A mini bio Grace Lee Whitney is a versatile actress and vocalist born in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Beginning as a "girl singer" on Detroit's WJR radio, she soon opened in clubs for the likes of Billie Holliday and Buddy Rich, and toured with the Spike Jones Band. Grace debuted on Broadway in "Top Banana", and subsequently appeared in the United Artists film. Grace is probably best known for her portrayal of 'Janice Rand' in the original "Star Trek" series and films. Grace continues to delight fans in personal appearances at conventions and events throughout North America and Europe. Her autobiography is entitled "The Longest Trek: My Tour of the Galaxy." .-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: TOTAL BS....must resist.... From: Desdemona Date: 06 Feb 02 - 02:20 PM Phew. Now I can live again. I've always supected that the lack of respect shown to....him.....was a result of the very natural and wholly understandable feelings of inferiority and resulting envy that ALL red-blooded m,en must suffer when confronted with such a----shall I say it?----STALLION. I confess that, while harvest gold lycra certainly becomes Le Shatner, it is when he is BARE-CHESTED (I think he shaves it; at least in his oiled & glistening "Star Trek" days!) that his immeasurable acting talent is displayed to fullest advantage. A constipated facial expression only adds to the overall effect. God---why hasn't The Academy ever given this man his due?! |