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Subject: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 13 Mar 02 - 06:21 AM Dear Friends, I noticed, looking at my calendar today, that it is now only 7 weeks until the Mudcat EuroGathering in Brussels. So I've started a new thread for the final countdown and preparations. As posted in the last thread, I've devoted part of my website to practical details and you can reach these pages via the following big blue clicky: At the last count attendance stands as follows:
Confirmed or likely to attend
Bill\Sables
Possibles/interest expressed
Les from Hull For those who have not yet confirmed, following initial interest, I'd love to hear from you if you plan to come. There is still time this far ahead to benefit from a number of cheap ticket deals, either by air or Eurostar. Many people have already confirmed their day and time of arrival. Again, this would be useful in order to organise food, etc. Also whether you need floor space or whether you plan to stay in a hotel or B&B (see the site for details). For the Saturday, I'm pretty confident we will have the use of a decent performing space and probably PA if needed. For those arriving on Friday, we may be able to eat and play in a local brasserie. For all other times, there are two decent sized rooms at Mooland that can be used for tunes and singing. Please do let me know ASAP if you plan to come but haven't confirmed yet. Looking forward to 3-6 May! Best regards mooman P.S. Previous thread is here |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Skipjack K8 Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:32 AM Dang, love playing in brassieres, Richard, but the Viking horde doesn't hit town 'til Saturday am. Thank you in advance for all your efforts to put this together. It is greatly appreciated. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:37 AM The Little Pissant and I will be there in spirit mooman and I guarantee we'll be keeping track of the goings-on here at the 'Cat. Truly does sound like another fabulous gathering! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MMario Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:45 AM Only three days planned? I would have thought the record would already be well beyond that? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MMario Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:47 AM Never mind - wrong thread - thought I was in the one about world record sing-around. Who has the brain cell? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Dave Bryant Date: 13 Mar 02 - 09:53 AM I didn't know you wore brassieres, skipjack - do you go the whole hog with stockings and suspenders as well ? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 13 Mar 02 - 11:19 AM Only when he is sleeping with The Viking Dave...! mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Skipjack K8 Date: 13 Mar 02 - 11:19 AM I feel a calendar snap coming on. And perhaps a 'cross-dressing in folk' thread. Can't think of anyone else, other than Widow Twanky, who goes in for it. And to think all this started as the thought of a grope in a Belgian D cup. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Noreen Date: 13 Mar 02 - 06:39 PM Cold shower prescribed by Auntie Noreen for Skippy(...I like you best in the black lace...) Looking forward very much to the mooland trip! Noreen |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Mrs.Duck Date: 14 Mar 02 - 12:06 PM Haven't been reading these threads but Bill told me you wanted to know if those who had initially expressed interest would be coming but sadly in our case the answer in no. The bank manager says we can't so I told him if he didn't buck up his ideas I'd take my overdraft elsewhere!! Have a great time one and all. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Ranks Date: 14 Mar 02 - 05:01 PM Hi Mooman, what is the nearest Hotel or B&B to our Session place. It would be a good idea if Evi and I would book into that, because there is a good chance, none of us would be able to drive. Looking forward to seein you all. Ranks |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Mar 02 - 08:42 AM Yes, please, a near hotel or B&B. I have looked for the address of Mooland in these threads without success, so I don't know which place would be near. The name of the busstop would help too. I come by train (3rd to 5th). Is Brussels Central or Midi better? Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 15 Mar 02 - 11:11 AM Dear Wolfgang, The Mooland address is available at the EuroGathering website link at the top of this thread. The site has details also of hotels and B&Bs. Mooland is in Watermael-Boitsfort which is at the South-East edge of Brussels. Brussels Central and Brussels Midi are probably equally convenient. From Brussels Central take the 71 bus in the direction Delta and change onto a 95 bus at the Cimitiere d'Ixelles. From Brussels Midi take the metro (direction Simonis) and get off at the station Trone/Troon. Take the exit at the back of the metro train end of the platform and take the 95 bus from the stop just round the corner. The stop to get off the 95 bus is "Vander Elst" (there is usually an stop indicator in the buses). The stop is next to a Texaco garage. Walking uphill and keeping the Texaco garage on your right, Mooland is the second house on the right (number 5), about 50 metres from the bus stop. Hoping this helps you! Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: pavane Date: 15 Mar 02 - 06:07 PM Wish I could come. I managed to find you but remember trying to direct that other guy all round the area on my mobile? Hope you have a good time. And I often wonder how he got on with the melodeon. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 20 Mar 02 - 04:37 PM Dear Friends, Here is the latest updated list of confirmed attendees and those who have previously expressed an interest but have not yet confirmed whether they can come. Confirmed or likely to attend
Bill\Sables Possibles/interest expressed
Raggytash Things are beginning to firm up on the performing venue for the Saturday night and I should be able to post details soon here and on the website. Currently we plan for an early evening start going on until late, with plenty of time for individual and collective performances. The venue hosts an occasional folk club so we may have some interested locals for audience and possibly one or two additional performers. It will probably be possible to provide food and drink (at cost price) at the venue which has a small kitchen. For those who want B&B/inexpensive hotel who I haven't contacted personally yet, the following is very close to Mooland (5 minutes door to door by bus or about 20 minutes walk). It is also very close to local cafes, restaurants and shops and also to the 94 tram and 95 bus, both of which go to the city centre. This may be convenient for those who want to stay close to us rather than in the city. Some people have already reserved floor space and we have a note of those, but if anybody else prefers this option please let me know as soon as possible Prices are advertised as follows:
Single/shower/TV: Euro 47
Tel: +32 (0) 2 672 1601 I'll be posting further details as I get them. Very best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: smallpiper Date: 20 Mar 02 - 04:53 PM poo I can't make it after all. Got t o take a bunch of my clients away on a trip whihc should be fun but not as much as you lot are going to have. Any way see you all at Beverley fringe fest |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 02 Apr 02 - 09:07 AM Refresh - I am off to the travel agency to book the flights ... I herewith renew my request for some floor space for sleeping (will bring camping matress + sleeping bag with me. Looking forward to it! MudGuard/Andy/Andreas |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 02 Apr 02 - 12:30 PM Got the tickets now. Will arrive in Brussels National on Friday at 12:15 (lunchtime, not midnight!) and will be leaving on Sunday 20:50 from Brussels National. See you in a month! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Linda Kelly Date: 02 Apr 02 - 12:53 PM I ave ze tickets -I have ze passport - I ave a very bad french accent ...... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 02 Apr 02 - 01:48 PM Oh - oh. Protect your legs - Linda is coming ;-) MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Linda Kelly Date: 02 Apr 02 - 02:49 PM My victims always say it's worse the second time around Mudguard!!! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Rollo Date: 02 Apr 02 - 04:43 PM Dear folks, alea iacta est... In the end I had to decide not to go to bruxelles. Money is too short, I cannot afford the travel. Have a good time everyone. Be assured I will sit in Hamburg and drop a tear or two while thinking o fthe goosd music I miss... *sniff* Bye Rollo |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Susanne (skw) Date: 02 Apr 02 - 05:03 PM Just booked my voyage - I'll be arriving around lunchtime on Saturday. I'm going via Hull and Amsterdam after all, as the price for the Dover - Ostende trip turned out to be simply extortionate! How far is Brussels from Amsterdam? I've worked out it must be 3 - 4 hours. Looking forward to seeing you all! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Diva Date: 03 Apr 02 - 02:58 PM Going to Girvan to catch up with old friends that weekend. Have fun!!!! Diva |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Letty Date: 04 Apr 02 - 05:07 AM Definitely coming - can I also refresh my request for some space on the floor? I'll probably be travelling by car from Germany (Ruhr area), so I might be able to give some people (Wolfgang?) a spin. Letty |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 04 Apr 02 - 07:40 AM Susanne, Brussels is a maximum 3 hours from Amsterdam by car and the motorway is straightforward. Letty, your floor space is reserved! Looking forward to seeing you both again! Sorry you can't make it this time Diva and Rollo, I will amend the lists accordingly. Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 04 Apr 02 - 08:02 AM mooman, mooman, what shall I think of you now? When a lady asks for floorspace you grant it, when a man (i.e. I) asks for it, the request is ignored ;-) One more request, especially to mooman and Letty (but anyone else is allowed to help as well): a friend of mine is trying to collect all the different Euro coins and asked me for support. If anyone has Euro coins from countries other than Germany, Austria or Portugal, please bring them (One coin of each value per nation is enough). I will pay you in German Euro coins. TIA on behalf of my friend. MudGuard/Andy |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 04 Apr 02 - 08:08 AM Andreas! Mea maxima culpa! Of course there is floor space for you and I should have confirmed that to you already! The only problem was finding a space big enough! (;>) I certainly have had some other Euro coins, e.g. Spanish, Luxembourgois and Dutch and will look through my little connection. I've never seen any Finnish or Irish ones though. Best regards mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Noreen Date: 04 Apr 02 - 08:36 AM I have some Italian Euros brought home by my son, and I should be in possession of some Irish Euros before we meet, Andy. Looking forward to seeing you all. Noreen |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 04 Apr 02 - 09:05 AM Dear Friends, Here are the latest updated lists according to the information I have received. Confirmed or likely to attend
Bill\Sables + a few helper gnomes Possibles/interest previously expressed (but not confirmed)
Raggytash The programme is shaping up and I hope to be able to confirm activities for the Friday and Saturday nights shortly. I will also post information on these and other useful information (e.g. what's going to be on in Brussels over the Gathering weekend) on the website link posted at the top of this thread. On Friday a local Belgian brasserie will welcome us and we will be able to play/sing afterwards there provided at least 10 people are going to eat there (price will probably be about 15 - 20 Euros a head including drinks for plenty to eat). On the Saturday, I am firming up arrangements for a hall for us to play in within reasonable reach of Mooland. We hope to have drink and food available on site and to make a good evening of it (say 18h30-19h00 till whenever). It is likely that some local musicians and a bit of an "audience" will turn up as well. Mudcatters will of course be admitted free but we may charge a nominal entrance for others. As we will probably be able to eat and drink on site there should be plenty of time for individual spots and collective or spontaneous collaborations or jams! Needless to say, at all other times, Mooland (see the website for address) will be available for relaxation, eating, jamming, singing or socializing! If the weather holds up, we have a nice patio and terrace area we can spill over into. Some floor sleepers will be accomodated at Mooland, a few others at friends nearby (4 minutes walk from us and three doors up from aforementioned brasserie). If additional floor space is needed I have offers from three other friends (a little further away from us but still handy). I'll post up further information as it becomes available and will also put it on the website. If you haven't already confirmed your likely day and time of arrival, that would be very useful to me. Looking forward to seeing you all in a month! Best regards mooman
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 04 Apr 02 - 09:07 AM Sorry, forgot to switch bold off! Moo |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MMario Date: 04 Apr 02 - 09:12 AM Looks like a good time - Hope everybody enjoys themselves and give those of us here in MudCatLand a detailed description of events.
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 04 Apr 02 - 09:36 AM Mooman, I will be thinking about forgiving you ;-) Ok. Forgiven! All the coin collector helpers: Just had an update from my friend. He already has the following coins: http://www.djh-freeweb.de/~andreas.waechter/Euro.html MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 04 Apr 02 - 04:43 PM Hello, can you, mooman, provide information which buses/trams/undergrounds/whatever I need to take to come from the airport to mooland? I already know (or think to know) that I have to change to the bus line 95 and get off at the "Vander Elst" bus stop. And the rest of the way I also found. I had a look around the "Public transport" pages to which you linked on the EuroGathering page but could not find the info I need (somehow it is missing a page where you can enter your start point and your destination - and the system gives you a detailed plan which lines to take, where to change... as is available for London, Munich, ...) TIA MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 04 Apr 02 - 04:46 PM A moment after sending the previous post it seems I found the info. Bus 12 takes me from Airport to Gare du Luxembourg where I have to change to the bus line 95 ... MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 04 Apr 02 - 05:08 PM Dear Andreas, Yes...exactly right. Bus 12 to Gare du Luxembourg and then change to bus 95 (direction Heiligenborre) getting off at the Vander Elst stop (there is normally a stop indicator in the bus). Mooland is 50 metres walk up the hill from the stop, on the right hand side, second house (no. 5) after the Texaco garage. An alternative is the airport train to Central Station, then the 71 bus (direction Delta), changing to the 95 (stop on opposite side of the road) at Cimitiere d'Ixelles Best regards, Moo |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Llanfair Date: 05 Apr 02 - 04:02 PM I only need to book my seat on eurostar, everything else is sorted. Can't wait to see you all. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 08 Apr 02 - 03:53 PM Only 4 weeks to go, and 3 weekends before the gathering. I can't wait. Richard, did I mail you our flight details and arrival times? My hand is improving pretty well, now, though I am still having the physio. Anything we should know about stopping with you? Do we need sleeping bags etc? Jezebel-did you get sorted out? Skipjack-bring the frillies!! I'll bring my horsehair jockstrap. See you all soon Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 09 Apr 02 - 03:54 AM Eric, what the ... are frillies? Glad to hear your hand is getting better (luckily I am not a sheep, otherwise I'd be afraid...) 24 days to go. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 09 Apr 02 - 04:06 AM Eric, I'm pretty sure I have your flight details but it won't hurt to send them again just in case. How many of you arriving on the RyanAir flight? If you'll fit in the car I'll come down to Brussels Charleroi and fetch you. Glad the hand's getting better. Floor space is sorted, but I don't think we have enough sleeping bags for everyone so if floor sleepers can bring their own that will be great. Andreas...get the frillies out of your mind...the thought is too horrible to contemplate! (...on the other hand...!) Also, apart from not being a sheep you're quite safe as you'll be a few hundred metres down the road! Can't wait meself! Moo |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 09 Apr 02 - 05:05 AM Now you've made me even more curious about the frillies. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Skipjack K8 Date: 09 Apr 02 - 05:18 AM Hello, my Teutonic friend. It is a dungeons and dragons game I play with that Viking berk. I wear the frilly Mason's Apron, and have to guess whether the horsehair is on the inside or the outside. All perfectly normal, don't worry. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 09 Apr 02 - 06:15 AM Everything where you and/or Erik is involved can't be perfectly normal ;-) MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: GUEST,rip Date: 09 Apr 02 - 06:18 AM mudcatters my ass |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: GUEST,Sledge Date: 09 Apr 02 - 06:27 AM I will have to send my apologies this time round, I'm unable to come due to an urgent request to help with child care duties (not mine btw) and it's allways hard to turn down a friend in need, Cheers and have a great time Sledge |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 09 Apr 02 - 01:32 PM Arh ! Guest RIP-where is your arse? Andy- for me n Skip it's normality, bring a biscuit tin-we'll show you!!. Richard-flights, Ryan Air ex Stanstead. Flight FR1012 arrive-08.40. Saturday 04. May As far as I know, only Bill, Greg and myself arriving, having not heard from Emma.I think we should have the following, if I guess right.Guitar, rucksack, Accordian, violin,bag, suitcase with banjo, maybe a couple of other bits n pieces-a transit will do for the pick up! Are you sure about meeting us, if it's too much trouble, we'll make our own way there. Thanks very much, for this and all your hard work. I'll bring me own sleeping bag-the one with the string in-remember skip? Skip-how cruel, when you said berk, I though you meant berserker! Oh well-I'll get ye back with the horse hair!! Not long now |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 09 Apr 02 - 03:36 PM Eric, a full or an empty biscuit tin? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:27 PM Don't really matter as long as I can stand safely on it! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: GUEST,Roger O'K Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:41 PM |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MMario Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:44 PM I am beginning to suspect that Micca is in actuality a shy retiring , subdued and sedate representative of European Mudcatters. (at least in comparision)
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: GUEST,Roger O'K Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:46 PM As I was saying before the thought of those frillies triggered a premature transmission, anyone travelling by Ryanair who cannot be accommodated in the Moomobile should note that from 15 April onward, the Ryanair shuttle from "Brussels South" (i.e. Charleroi on the French border) will deposit and collect passengers at the Gare du Midi, instead of near the Wild Geese pub. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Susanne (skw) Date: 10 Apr 02 - 03:05 PM Richard, do you know where the Mudcat collective will be having lunch on Saturday? If I arrive and you're all out feeding I could follow you there instead of having to have a lonely meal behind the wheel ... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:46 AM Suzanne, By the end of this week, I hope to have all venues, etc. finalized and will then have the notion of a programme. I'll then let you know where the majority is likely to be found Saturday lunchtime. I don't like the thought of you eating alone! See you soon, Moo (Richard) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 11 Apr 02 - 03:52 AM Oh P.S. Guest, rip. Sorry I didn't mean to ignore you. Your arse is most welcome at the Gathering provided it doesn't disrupt proceedings too much! Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Llanfair Date: 14 Apr 02 - 12:21 PM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 15 Apr 02 - 10:48 AM Dear Friends, The time of The EuroGathering is creeping up on us fast now. Just a couple of weeks to go. Most of the arrangements have been finalized now and I've posted a on the website at the above link. For those who still may be interested in coming, there is still time to get a cheap flight or train and we still have offers of floorspace for those on a budget. The following: website gives all the necessary details. So far the attendance and "interested" lists are as follows: Confirmed or likely to attend
Bill\Sables
+ several helper gnomes Possibles/interest previously expressed (but not confirmed)
Raggytash Specially for 'Spaw and MMario who have been so supportive in messages of goodwill (and for all other interested 'Catters!) we will post a running commentary as the weekends proceedings unfold. For those of an easily upset disposition this may include accounts of sheep and drunkenness! Looking forward to seeing everybody! All the best, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 15 Apr 02 - 04:02 PM Refresh |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MMario Date: 15 Apr 02 - 04:46 PM too be perfectly honest - I don't know whether it is support or jealousy! That's quite a line-up of probably attendees, and I feel a definate greenness creeping over me, accompianied by this wild urge to kneedeep!
If I start eating flies I'm gonna complain!
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Llanfair Date: 15 Apr 02 - 04:56 PM I booked my Eurostar ticket today!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: JeZeBeL Date: 15 Apr 02 - 06:02 PM Hello everyone. I cannot get a ryan air ticket as it was uncertain as to whether i could get the weekend off work. this is looking a possiblity now....hurrah. I never did manage to get to a travel agents being that I live in the middle of nowhere...literally. Eric the viking.....if it's still poss could you try and get hold of a ticket for me. If not it's ok. I'll go next year. I'm sorry about all this....we've been having problems at work with poeple quitting and getting sacked so I've been up to my eyeballs in shifts. Mooman - If i can get over could I possibly have some floor space somewhere, anywhere, even another country would be fine lol, as if I get there I will be travelling with Bill/ETV/Greg. Thanks a lot. Sorry to mess everyone around, but works been a pain recently. Speak to you all soon. Emma |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 16 Apr 02 - 03:36 PM Jez-give me your phone number-possibly can't make tomorrow. You can pm me. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 16 Apr 02 - 03:44 PM Jez-there are still seats (UK time-now. 20.44) But they are priced as follows. Out £34.95 Return 49.95. We booked on 8th Jan What do you want to do? |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 16 Apr 02 - 07:29 PM Jez, Floor space is no problem if you can sort out your flight. Just let me know and I'll organise it. Hope you can come. Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 17 Apr 02 - 05:13 AM mooman, one more question: do the brusselians (or how are they called in English) speak French or Dutch or both? Is there a chance for survival if I speak a little bit of English, an even smaller bit of French, no Dutch and lots of German? Jezebel, hope you can make it! 16 days to go... MudGuard/Andreas |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:37 AM Dear Andreas, Les Bruxellois! Brussels is probably about 80-85% French speaking even though it sits in "Flemish territory" (their words!). In fact it is one of three autonomous regions in Belgium (Flanders, Wallonia and Brussels, each of which have their own ministers and parliaments!). Complicated country! Almost everyone in the population is some sort of politician! You will be understood in most (though not necessarily all) places if you speak English. Generally it is better not to attempt Dutch in Brussels (unless you know the area well and where the Flemish districts are) although it is officially bilingual and the majority French speakers will hardly ever attempt to speak or reply in Dutch. German will certainly be understood by many people but, in general English or French is your best bet. Looking forward to seeing you. Also hope you can make it Emma! Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:40 AM Andreas, P.S. In "The Marolles" district of Brussels many people still speak the local dialect "Le Brusselaire" which defies real description. It is almost all about being drunk and there is a whole page devoted to it on the website link above! Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:57 AM Ok, so hopefully my bits of French will help me... There is no danger of me talking Dutch to anyone as I do not speak that language (if you can call it a language). See you soon! MudGuard/Andreas |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 17 Apr 02 - 02:22 PM eh-Andy, better watch out-Letty will kick you the same as Noreen and Linda at Llanstock |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 17 Apr 02 - 02:55 PM Dutch is just a broken version of German. German word for German is Deutsch - look at this: D so Dutch is German with some parts taken out of it... |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: JeZeBeL Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:43 PM I will come along with my french knowlage if anyone needs a hand.....although have been speaking spanish a lot recently......but I would like to try and learn a bit of the origional dialect....it would be interesting.. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Letty Date: 18 Apr 02 - 05:09 AM MudGuard said: -Dutch is just a broken version of German. -German word for German is Deutsch - look at this: -DEUTSCH -so Dutch is German with some parts taken out of it... Ehm...I'm sure you were joking Mudguard, but still. :-)The Dutch word for 'Dutch' is 'Nederlands', don't believe the English language! And why else would the Germans have a separate word for our language (Niederländisch or Holländisch)? *grin* Here is the deal... Long ago, the Germanic languages developed into different directions: a Northern, Western and Eastern branch (Northern developed into what are now the Scandinavian languages, Eastern (Gothic) died out). The Western branch 'split' into a so-called Low German and High German branch (low and high being geographical terms here). From the high branch we get modern German and Yiddish. From the low branch we get English, Frisian, modern Low German (Plattdeutsch) and Dutch (and of course, Flemish and Afrikaans). So, to say that German and Dutch are related is fine, to say that they are the same is a bit silly. Ask anyone in the Netherlands who has to learn German (like me! Still trying...). As to mutual intelligibility, for me personally, standard Flemish is easy to understand, and written Flemish even is the same as Dutch. Frisian is OK when spoken slowly, so is Plattdeutsch when it's from the border area, and I can usually read Afrikaans (but spoken, it's rather difficult). English and German, however, I definitely had to learn in school. However, it looks like I will have to brush up on my French this time... Tiens!
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Skipjack K8 Date: 18 Apr 02 - 06:23 AM But you're Irish, Letty! Very erudite posting, madam; I salute your linguistic ability. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 18 Apr 02 - 06:31 AM Letty, of course I was joking! Looking forward to seeing you again! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Noreen Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:26 AM Eric, I'm mortally offended! I never kicked anybody, and nor do I intend to do so- though I do remember we had an interesting conversation about feet on Wolfgang's sofa. (Are yours still beautiful, Skipjack?) Who's going to plait your hair, Eric? Hmmm? Looking forward to seeing you all. Noreen |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:42 AM Noreen, I can't confirm that! I can only confirm that you did not (yet) kick me ;-) MudGuard/Andy |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Skipjack K8 Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:43 AM They grew so beautiful, and I so possessive, that after I gave them a good hiding in last year's Great North Run, they ran off with a younger, better looking body. They may have had some visual appeal, but real beauty is in the sole. Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Noreen Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:02 AM My mother always told me that a lady never lifts her feet... I have other ways of attracting attention :0) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 18 Apr 02 - 02:03 PM Yes, my hair still needs platting, any volunteers? Yes, I remember the feet talk. My second toe being long and sensuous(or something like that!) I remember. As for Skips, I thought, that they were beautiful, like a well ripened brie!! Noreen, you are quite right-you didn't kick Andy, I thought you might do it for Linda by proxy, so my apologies. Letty, this is really your chance to get a bike back for the Nederlands if Andy brings his! Jez, how are you getting there? NOT ON COBBLES KNEE I hope-watch him as you go through the dark tunnels!! Talking of Cobble, where is the old bugger? Wake up Brian!!! Obviously the excitement is begining to grow, as the date gets nearer-hence all the silly comments.2 WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: JeZeBeL Date: 18 Apr 02 - 06:51 PM Eric.......I asked greg if i could have a lift a while ago and if the offer still stands from him then thats how i'm getting there....otherwise.....I'm not....lol Will ring you tomorrow evening.....I need you to book me a seat on the plane...and if I really can't get out of work then I'll have paid for it and I just won't be able to go cos I'll kick myself if i don't ask you to book the seat cos i can't go and then i can!! Cobble is still alive...saw him not that long ago and talked to him at the weekend....he's busy with work aswell at the moment i think |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Eric the Viking Date: 18 Apr 02 - 07:00 PM JEZ-it's 23.59 hours on Thursday night-Ryan air latest price is £135.00+handling charge the price is going up by the minute! There might be a cheaper way via Hull with anybody, or on another air line. Don't know what price will be later on, will check tomorrow. Skip is coming over in the evening for some fun (Yes-the horse hair jock strap comes out at last!!!!) |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: JeZeBeL Date: 19 Apr 02 - 06:25 PM Well, everyone....looks like I ain't going to be able to make it......can't get the time off work and it's really starting to get a wee bit too expensive for me to afford. Thanks for trying though eric. I'm sorry to mess everyone around. Em xx |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: MudGuard Date: 20 Apr 02 - 08:53 AM You will be missed, JeZeBeL! |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 21 Apr 02 - 04:23 PM New! Specially-designed Mudcat Cafe Brussels 2002 teeshirt for anyone who would like on! Details here: Only two weeks to go now! Best regards, mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 21 Apr 02 - 04:25 PM Sorry, that should have been like one! mooman |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: Llanfair Date: 21 Apr 02 - 05:51 PM Well, due to an error by the man in the Eurostar ticket office, I will be in Brussels for a whole week!!! Arriving Thursday, 2nd May, and leaving Thursday 9th May. The friend I am staying with is keen to join in everything, and show me the sights, so it's going to be a busy week!!! I am really excited about it now!!! See you all soon, Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Mudcat EuroGathering: final preparations From: mooman Date: 22 Apr 02 - 03:50 AM Final countdown thread moved as this thread was getting a bit long! Best regards, mooman |
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