Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?

Subject: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: GUEST,JudyG
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 07:11 PM

Howdy all.

Isn't there a song with this title somewhere? I checked out the data base and couldn't find it.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 08:02 PM

I think there is a barbershop song called just "The Old Songs". Isn't it the theme song of the barbershop association? Other than that, nothing in the brain.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 08:29 PM

I have a recording by the Phipps Family which I love, called I Love To Sing The Old Songs. I won't get all the words right from memory, but if you think it's what you're looking for, I can pull it out.

"I love to sing the old songs, I heard so long ago
From happy days of childhood, ...of pain and woe
Of days gone by will live again with each familiar strain
Now let us sing the old songs, join in the sweet refrain

The Phipps family were contemporaries of the Carter Family with similar instrumentation and sound. They were basically dismissed as imitators, but I suspect that they were both imitating the same source.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 08:34 PM

I've got a feeling I've heard this line as an add on verse or variant to Roy Palmer's Old Miner

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 08:36 PM

Or maybe that's because it's got the line:

And who will sing the miner's hymn
Oh dear God, when I go?

Great song anyway.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: GUEST,JudyG
Date: 09 Apr 02 - 10:05 PM

Hi Jerry.

I would appreciate it if you could find the lyrics to that Phipps Family song. Thanx!

Subject: Lyr Add: I CANNOT SING THE OLD SONGS (Claribel)
From: MMario
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 09:15 AM

I thought I had posted this - but can't find it:

I CANNOT SING THE OLD SONGS.
Claribel.

I cannot sing the old songs
I sung, long years ago:
For, heart and voice would fail me,
And foolish tears would flow;
For, by-gone hours come o'er my heart,
With each familiar strain:
I cannot sing the old songs,
Or dream those dreams again;
I cannot sing the old songs,
Or dream those dreams again!

I cannot sing the old songs,
Their charm is sad and deep;
Their melodies would waken
Old sorrows from their sleep;
And tho' all unforgotten still,
And sadly sweet they be—
I cannot sing the old songs,
They are too dear to me;
I cannot sing the old songs,
They are too dear to me!—

I cannot sing the old songs:
For, visions come again
Of golden dreams departed,
And years of weary pain.
Perhaps, when earthly fetters shall
Have set my spirit free,
My voice may know the old songs,
For all eternity!—
My voice may know the old songs,
For all eternity!—

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From:
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 11:30 AM

I made a couple of suggestions back at 7:19PM yesterday.

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09-Apr-02 - 07:19 PM (#686609) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs? From: George Seto - [e-mail] Could you be thinking of one of these songs? I Still Sing the Old Songs Sing the Old Songs There are several recordings where "Sing the Old Songs" is the title or part of it. PArticularly the barbershop groups.

10-Apr-02 - 11:23 AM (#687056) Subject: RE: Duplicate thread From: George Seto - [e-mail] Could one of those mudelfs put this into the other thread that has been kept?

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10-Apr-02 - 11:31 AM (#687068) Subject: RE: Duplicate thread From: George Seto - [e-mail] They didn't want to keep this thread, so look at Other thread

Other thread transferred by Joe Offer.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 11:53 AM

Veddy interesting, MMario:

The first verse of the song you posted is almost identical to the first verse of the song the Phipps Family sings as "I love to sing the old songs." The chorus is made up of lines from several hymns.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: MMario
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:21 PM

I love to sing the old songs Levy box 35 item 38

I cannot sing the old songs Levy box 93 item 90

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 12:39 PM

Thanks, MMario:

It's still not the song the Phipps Family Sings. The chorus of the Phipps Family song, from memory is:

"peace, peace, wonderful peace
Coming down from the Father above
.......sweeps over my spirit
While the years of eternity roll

This isn't the song requested but if I get irritated enough with myself, I'll to try to find the album and pull it out...

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 04:13 PM

A.L.Phipps family - I've got a record of theirs I picked up in a sale a few years ago for 50p.

Sounds great - like the Carters, but a family resemblance rather than a slavish imitation. In fact I liked it so much I went back and bought a second copy just in case.

It's all Carter family songs ("Most Requested Sacred Songs of the Carter Family, Played and Sung in the Old Original Carter Family Style by the A.L.Phipps Family"), which is fine - but it'd be interesting to have a look and a listen to some of their own. According to the record sleeve A.L. Phipps and his wife Kathleen both wrote songs, and made lots of appearances with the Carters up to 1954.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 04:33 PM

Hey, Hey, HEY, KEV!!!!!!!!!

Back in the 60's when I was living in New York City, I used to poke around in record stores in the Village. I came across a Phipps Family record(which I still have) that is just GREAT! Unusual songs (The Death of Abe Lincoln) great southern Mountain hymns. There was a second record in the bin, but when I went back to buy it, it was gone. I was really crushed when I couldn't get it. It's the record YOU HAVE!!!

Six years ago, I was singing at a wonderful festival out in Boonville, Missouri and met Don Stevens. I mentioned that I have searched forever to find mor Phipps Family stuff, and upon returning home had something like seven or eight of their albums on tape waiting for me. But not the one YOU HAVE. I see we may have to exchange some tapes, here. I'll e-mail you about it...

Jerry

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 04:37 PM

This is strange...I've never come across anyone else who's heard of them.

I'll tape it or CD it this week and send it to you.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 05:31 PM

You are the second person in my life who I've met who has heard of them...

Jerry

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: 53
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 10:31 PM

George Jones had a hit in the late 80's about Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 02 - 10:56 PM

Hey everyone.

Jerry, if you could find that record, it sounds like the song I may be looking for but I can't find the lyrics.

MMario, The song you linked me to is different from what I think Jerry is talking about. His song seems to be a religious song, which, even if it isn't the song I'm looking for, might just fit the bill for me.

Mr. McGrath, If Jerry can't find the record, is ite same one you have? Could you get me the lyrics?

Thanx for all the suggestions. Judy

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 12:00 AM

Hi, Judy, Guest: I don't know if McGrath has the song on his record, but I KNOW I have it, both on record and on tape. 'Smatter of fact, I am HOLDING a tape with the song on it... a compilation tape that I made of some of my favorite OLD white southern gospel. If you e-mail me your address to [e-mail], I'll send you a copy of the tape...

Jerry

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: rich-joy
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 06:18 AM

there's a pome writ by Bob Copper an' set to music by Peter Bellamy, called "The Old Songs" - nice harmony version too, by "Th'Antique Roadshow" - trio of UK lads - on their "Collection" album.
Cheers! R-J

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Who Will Sing the Old Songs?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 09:15 AM

No it's not on that record I'm afraid. All Carter Family Songs.

Incidentally I just clicked on to the honking duck site with its hundreds of grand old songs, to see how the Phipps version of some of the songs compared with the Carter Family. The copyright gestapo have come down on the site, and you can't listen to them any more. Including records made in 1924.

It's not just "Who Will Sing the Old Songs?" - it's "Who Will Hear the Old Songs?" as well.

As one of the songs on that Phipps/Carter record puts it "I can't feel at home in this world any more..."