Subject: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,Old Dickie C. Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:52 AM I'd have to say yes, it certainly has. http://www.jumptheshark.com/ |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:57 AM Can you say what "jumped the shark" means, however? alex |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: allie kiwi Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:01 AM Shark is nice fried in batter with accompanying chips. One does not, however, jump the newspaper wrapped package. Unless one is drunk.
Allie |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: michaelr Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:17 AM Is that like "screwed the pooch"? |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:31 AM The website says it's about having reached one's peak, so it's all downhill after that. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) Q. What is jumping the shark? A. It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite television program has reached its peak. That instant that you know from now on...it's all downhill. Some call it the climax. We call it "Jumping the Shark." From that moment on, the program will simply never be the same. The term "jump the shark" was coined by my college roommate for 4 years, Sean J. Connolly, in Ann Arbor, Michigan back in 1985. This web site, book, film, and all other material surrounding shark jumping, are hereby dedicated to "the Colonel." The aforementioned expression refers to the telltale sign of the demise of Happy Days, our favorite example, when Fonzie actually "jumped the shark." The rest is history. Jumping the shark applies not only to TV, but also music, film, even everyday life. "Did you see her boyfriend? She definitely jumped the shark." You get the idea. It's just another TROLL. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:15 AM Everything jumps the shark eventually...the Roman Empire, Margaret Thatcher, Cheers, Burl Ives, the New York Yankees, Bert Sempelmeyer, the internal combustion engine, the Age of Sail, Napoleon Bonaparte, and the anonymous GUEST too. Matter of fact, even the shark jumps the shark eventually. Why sweat it? It's just a natural process. Something better will soon come along for those who like to flame and troll. - LH |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: SharonA Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:34 AM "It's just another TROLL". Yeah, methinks the trolls themselves have jumped the shark. |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Devilmaster Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:38 AM I always like making shark kabobs.... with some fresh red pepper, mushroom, red onion..... mmmmmmm. anyone have any good shark recipes? Steve |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: DMcG Date: 04 Jun 02 - 08:47 AM What I want to know is whether "past its sell-by date" has jumped the shark? And when will "jumped the shark" be past its sell-by date, come to that? |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 04 Jun 02 - 09:10 AM Well I think that perpetrating a violent bodily crime against a sea creature is a horrible metaphor and just increases the atmosphere of violence and disregard for the safety and integrity of others that is so rampant in today's society. The comment, to be terse, is in bad taste. Shark, however, can taste really good, as has been pointed out. Alex |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Amos Date: 04 Jun 02 - 09:15 AM Old Dickie certainly lives up to his name, dunee? This may not be a troll but a foraging expedition; it may be that Dickie himself IS the shark. That would explain everything, eh? A |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,JohnB Date: 04 Jun 02 - 09:21 AM I don't think that this will take off in Scotland, Sheep are much more gentle creatures than Sharks and far more readily available :] JohnB |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: PeteBoom Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:01 AM I think we need to change the metaphor - the last thing the 'Cat needs is getting in trouble with PETA for abusing those cute, li'l ol', loveable sharks... Cheers - Pete |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: DMcG Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:10 AM Hmm - sheared the sheep? Still a bit too violet Stuffed the pepper? Vegan version, but still a bit aggressive Filtered the plankton? No, that won't do either ... Not as easy as it looks, this, is it? |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:51 AM Yes, when will the phrase "jumped the shark" jump the shark? And more importantly, does anyone care??? We are, thankfully, hearing the phrase "deer in the headlights" less often lately, I have noticed, so there is hope. Then there's "I resemble that remark"...used by people who think of themselves as quite witty. I was out with the guys in the radio control boat club on Sunday, sailing my sailboat, and one of them made a mock insulting remark to someone else...within less than 2 heartbeats, four separate people all said "I resemble that remark". Ha ha. I could have said, "You're actually all starting to resemble each other...", but I let it pass. - LH |
Subject: RE: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: AliUK Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:54 AM Damn!! And I thought this was a bestiality thread. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 02 - 12:08 PM Well Ali old friend, for you it is.......... Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Bullfrog Jones Date: 04 Jun 02 - 12:26 PM Wasn't shark-jumping something that Led Zeppelin groupies used to get up to? In fact weren't they mudsharks? BJ |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 04 Jun 02 - 12:49 PM Skirted the turtle? Jerry |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: DonD Date: 04 Jun 02 - 01:31 PM The actual origin of this expression (which I had never heard before) come like so many from the world of golf. One day Greg Norman was playing a round in the Canadian Rockies and passed out at the highest point on the course from oxygen deprivation. Understandably as a lowlander Australian/Floridian, he had no high altitude acclimitization. He lay there as following foursomes played through, leaping over his recumbent form. It was all downhill from there. The rest is linguistic history. Or perhaps not. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,Shark ate my cookies Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:00 PM Und der Haifisch, der hat Zahne Und die tragt er im Gesicht Und Macheath, der hat ein Messer Doch das Messer sieht man nicht. - "Die Dreigroschenoper" (1928), Bertold Brecht (1898-1956) |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Don Firth Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:03 PM Trolling for sharks? |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:09 PM Translation for the germanically challenged:
And the shark, he has teeth which isn't nearly as good as the standard ENglish translation
Oh the shark has pretty teeth, dear --------- One might add a variant:
Oh the Mudcat has distractors Alex |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jun 02 - 02:17 PM I think it should be Stuff the Trolls! |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:33 PM Hye, Kat:
I think we're getting pretty darned good about trolls. We just use their thread to kid around and crack jokes. Who ever woulda thunk that Trolls could be so entertaining? Jerry |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: MMario Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:37 PM MT - did you mean to pun 'Max factor'? *grin* |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:40 PM Didn't even notice it, MM! I was just reaching for a rhyme. LOL! Alex |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:53 PM This reminds me...there was a legendary Spinal Tap album called "Shark Sandwich". Unfortunately it was deleted and is now almost impossible to find, but one or two of the tunes have shown up on their greatest hits CDs. For a glimpse of the album jacket, watch the movie. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:56 PM You can see it and read about it by clicking here. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Amos Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:56 PM In a dumb dump Out there in cyberspace, ya know, There's a punk kid, Just a 'hole' Watching Mudcats Gettin' stirred up By his stupid teenage trolls!
Unnamed Guesty,
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Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Steve in Idaho Date: 04 Jun 02 - 03:59 PM Is there really a band called Spinal Tap? Is this a Shatner thing? And the movie is called Shark Sandwich?? Man I'm with AliUK - this should be more bestiality than trolls -
But then again - trollburgers might be good -
Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Genie Date: 04 Jun 02 - 04:28 PM What Amos [so glibly] said. Alex, do you have the whole thing in German (Mac The Knife, that is)? If it's not already posted here, could you post it? I'd love it if you would. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 04 Jun 02 - 04:38 PM Die Moritat von Mackie Messer
Und der Haifisch, der hat Zähne
Ach, es sind des Haifischs Flossen
An 'nem schönen blauen Sonntag
Und Schmul Meier bleibt verschwunden
Jenny Towler ward gefunden
Und das große Feuer in Soho
Und die minderjährige Witwe (Bertolt Brecht) Click for thread on Mack the Knife & Pirate Jenny |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 02 - 05:47 PM Norton1 - No, no, the movie is called "This is Spinal Tap"...that's the first movie. There's a 2nd movie too, but I don't recall its title at the moment. Nigel Tufnel is Spinal Tap's virtuoso guitarist and cultural visionary. David St. Hubbins is Spinal Tap's virtuoso lead singer with the deadly blonde locks. Derek Smalls is the legendary base player with the killer sideburns and the cucumber up his spandex tights. THEY ROCK, MAN!!! Watch the movie and see what you're missin'. Kat - Omigod. The official Spinal Tap website. This is so, like, TOTALLY AWESOME! Thank you, thank you! NIGEL! NIGEL! NIGEL! Man, this is, like, so cool I think I'm, like, hallucinating...decent, man! Lookit them trails... Uhhh... - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 02 - 05:54 PM Let me put it another way... If William Shatner were to reincarnate as a heavy metal rock band...he would BE Spinal Tap. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Bill D Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:44 PM I did a search on "shark jumping", and find that, due to my extreme narrowness of focus, I had been able to totally miss this well-known phrase.....until now....now I shall have to devise a plan to ignore any further references to it.... never mind me...keep on with what you are doing... |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: khandu Date: 04 Jun 02 - 10:53 PM How about "Humped the Manatee"? It would seem to me that after humping a Manatee, everything else is just cheap whiskey! khandu |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:08 PM On of the most interesting (not to mention nicest0 things about this site is that, while we do tend to chew some of the same old rags until all of our teeth fall out, there are always new songs, new people and new rants, problems or questions to discuss. As long as you don't "jump the shark" on yourself it is unlikely that Mudcat will do so. Stephen |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,John Gray@work Date: 04 Jun 02 - 11:35 PM And not to forget the verse from the pen of the great Banjo Paterson, now of doubtful political correctness. Oh! don't you remember Black Alice, Sam Holt -- Black Alice, so dusky and dark, The Warrego gin, with a straw through her nose, And teeth like a Moreton Bay shark. Gin = aboriginal woman. JG/FME |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Big Mick Date: 05 Jun 02 - 12:19 AM Yes, Jerry, they are cute aren't they? I think that someone who spend time pondering jumping sharks probably has spent too much time screwing the pooch. Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: katlaughing Date: 05 Jun 02 - 12:38 AM poor dawg! |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: catspaw49 Date: 05 Jun 02 - 01:39 AM Ya' know, good as "Spinal Tap" was, it isn't nearly as good as "Waiting for Guffman" which pales in comparison to "Best in Show." I here their next documentary will be on a group of aging folkies..........Oughta' be a real hoot and a helluva' lot better than "Songcatcher." Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Devilmaster Date: 05 Jun 02 - 02:30 AM Damn! I'm still waiting for a good shark recipes...... I wasn't kidding. Does anyone have a good shark recipe? Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: allie kiwi Date: 05 Jun 02 - 03:04 AM Sorry, Steve. Would locust recipes do? Just remember to avoid the legs, eating the abdomen only. And female ones taste better. Allie |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST Date: 05 Jun 02 - 08:18 AM Well, the Drumcree thread certainly has. It was dead brilliant first time around, but not...well, it just seems juvenile. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM What are you trying to do, Spaw...win the "worst spelling on Mudcat" award? Let me improve on your bold attempt... Ya' no, good as "Spinal Tap" was, it isn't nearley as good as "Weighting for Guffman" witch pails inn comparison too "Best in Show." I here their neckst documentary will bee on a grope of ageing folky's..........Oughta' bee a reel hoot and a helluva' lot better then "Songcatcher." If ya wanna become a living legend in this culture, mere mediocrity is NOT enough! Take a lesson from William Shatner on that... Hee! Hee! >:-) - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: khandu Date: 05 Jun 02 - 10:01 PM Be easy on Spaw, LH. He needs a vacation. I invited him to Mississippi, but he amazingly did not lunge at the opportunity,and now the invitation has been rescinded. So, I guess he is feeling rather blue at this lost opportunity! khandu |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 02 - 10:58 PM Incredible, khandu. Who could resist an invitation to Mississippi? Or Orillia, for that matter? - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Hrothgar Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:24 AM Hey, John, what are you doing, calling poor old Banjo "politically incorrect?" According to Stewart & Keesing's "Australian Bush Ballads," the poem that starts "Oh! don't you remember Black Alice, Sam Holt" is "A Ballad of Queensland" by G. H. Gibson (pen name "Ironbark"). Iam Mudie, in "Favourite Australian Poems" agrees with this. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Mark Cohen Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:52 AM Now, let's see, I'll admit that my German isn't exactly Wonderbar, but it seems to me that Bobby Darin had it all wrong--the second verse should really be Now the shark has Lovely teeth, dear, And he flosses Them each night Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Mark Cohen Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:53 AM neither is my HTML |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,Bailey Date: 06 Jun 02 - 01:16 AM I cruise through her occasionally, but seldom post. I guess I'm just another troll. Boo hoo. What a hurtful term for such a large group of pedantic pseudo-intellectuals to use. Gosh, what would Arlo think? |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,Arlo Date: 06 Jun 02 - 01:27 AM Farrrrr out, man! |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Genie Date: 06 Jun 02 - 01:54 AM Alex, thanks for posting those German lyrics! |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:02 PM Don't feel bad, Bailey. There are still rooms available at the NYCFTTS and summer courses coming up at the WSSBA as well. I was called a troll the first few times I posted here too...way back when. I was surprised! I had never heard the expression, except with regard to adult fantasy tales and the Billy Goats Gruff. The only way to gain full acceptance in any private club is to hang around long enough that people actually get to know who you are in a general sense...if you think it's worth it, that is. And it helps to sort of fit in too, of course. The same goes for tennis clubs and motorcycle gangs. If you want to avoid pedantic psuedo-intellectualism almost entirely, I recommend the latter. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:09 PM Watch out for Love Bites, and do not engage in excessive foreplay. Jump the shark quickly, and immediately remove yourself from the water as fast as possible. Remember always use Safe sex when shark jumping, although there is no clinical evidence to suggest you will catch an STD from unprotected shark jumping. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:11 PM What does that mean, "I cruise through her"? Sounds indecent. Alex |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: MMario Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:12 PM Bailey - you are "not just another troll" - per internet definition you are a "lurker" gotta post to troll! *grin* |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Date: 06 Jun 02 - 12:31 PM Schmul Meier and Geld in the same stanza? Oh dear, just as well BB's lefty credentials were impeccable, otherwise he'd be damned for anti-Semitism (cue toxic blast from the alphanumeric Noirin). Meanwhile, hump-backed whales are being subjected to indecent assault on the Drumcree thread... |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,John Gray@work Date: 06 Jun 02 - 11:25 PM Devilmaster, Go to these sites for shark recipes ; http://sports.zapp.com.au/?fishing.recipes.grilledshark www.burkesbackyard.com.au/facts/2002/recipes/flake_7.html When buying fish & chips here in Australia, the fish of choice is normally shark, or as its called "flake". Its more popular in the southern parts of the country. The shark used is "school" or "gummy" shark. Not Makos or White Pointers or Grey Nurses etc. And our sharks have got good taste. Back in the late 60's they gobbled up our Prime Minister Harold Holt when he was swimming at a remote beach. JG/FME |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: GUEST,ozmacca Date: 06 Jun 02 - 11:28 PM Let's hear it for the revenge of the sharks! Yaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!! Now, if we can only keep the training programe up...... |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Devilmaster Date: 07 Jun 02 - 03:16 AM John Gray - Thanx mate! Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Jun 02 - 08:34 AM Then there are the land sharks...they wear business suits. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: harpgirl Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:03 AM ...most of us floridians soak our shark steaks in milk before cooking... |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Jun 02 - 12:43 PM When you do jump a shark, it's important not to have any bits dangling...this is admittedly more of a problem for males than females. Be warned. Always wear tight clothing when jumping a shark. Elephants do not jump sharks. - LH |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Date: 07 Jun 02 - 01:15 PM Orange or Union-Flag-coloured Speedos are the attire generally recommended around Drumcree for safe shark-jumping. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: mousethief Date: 07 Jun 02 - 01:18 PM Chain-mail speedos. Speaking of shark sex, did you know male sharks have two -um- appendages? One for grappling and one for payload delivery. Ouch. Alex |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: hesperis Date: 07 Jun 02 - 01:21 PM Hawk... even if Shatner came back as a band... he would not BE Spinal Tap. Spinal Tap goes so far beyond UNCOOL that they become actually COOL. Shatner is merely uncool. |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: DougR Date: 07 Jun 02 - 03:28 PM Yes, John B., and my friend Kendall might even say sheep are far more sexy than sharks! :>) DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: Has The Mudcat Cafe jumped the shark? From: Kim C Date: 07 Jun 02 - 03:58 PM Spinal Tap is one of my favorite movies. Especially the line about "these go to eleven." I haven't seen Best in Show yet but it's on my list of Movies to Rent. I was a big, big fan of Happy Days as a kid and I don't recall Fonzie ever jumping any shark. Speaking of sharks, I watched some TV show, probably on PBS, about a researcher who puts on a chain mail suit and goes swimming with them. He says that humans are not a shark's usual prey, and most sharks do not purposely eat people. The problem is, though, that sharks feel things with their mouths, and by the time they figure out you aren't lunch, they've already done the damage. Also another problem is that the sharks' regular food has been overfished in a lot of areas. Now, a lot of people see sharks as a danger and a nuisance, but remember, predators are necessary in nature. Back many, many years ago, they tried to exterminate the coyote out west. What happened? The rabbits overpopulated and ate the cattle's grass. |