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The White Rose (Cornish trad.)

Greyeyes 19 Jun 02 - 10:00 AM
GUEST,greg stephens 19 Jun 02 - 12:35 PM
breezy 19 Jun 02 - 03:44 PM
GUEST 19 Jun 02 - 03:55 PM
Kernow John 19 Jun 02 - 04:23 PM
Greyeyes 20 Jun 02 - 04:18 AM
breezy 20 Jun 02 - 07:31 AM
songsearch 20 Jun 02 - 07:20 PM
GUEST,Sue White 26 Sep 10 - 12:27 PM
GUEST,Mark 27 Jun 19 - 02:16 AM
Steve Shaw 27 Jun 19 - 05:36 AM
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Subject: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: Greyeyes
Date: 19 Jun 02 - 10:00 AM

Does anyone have any information about the traditional Cornish song "The White Rose"? I've exhausted all my usual sources and apart from the fact that it's Cornish and traditional I can't find anything about it. I have traced a couple of CDs it has been recorded on but I'm really looking for info on the song rather than recordings. How old? Any provenance etc.


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: GUEST,greg stephens
Date: 19 Jun 02 - 12:35 PM

Afraid I dont know the song but I suggest you email Sue White at cornishsinger@hotmail.com. She sings Cornish songs, including the White Rose, and I bet she is the person to help you.


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: breezy
Date: 19 Jun 02 - 03:44 PM

Hear it on Thursdays in August at the well Parc,Trevone followed by Little lize.Try the Newquay male voice choir to whom it was taken to by Rod Stirling during the early 70s and we all thank Mervyn Vincent.


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jun 02 - 03:55 PM

According to this page (Google cached - the original is dead) the song's origin is "unknown"


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: Kernow John
Date: 19 Jun 02 - 04:23 PM

I looked in Mike O'Connors book and Ian Marshall's. The song is in both but niether gives a clue to it's origin. Mike credits Mervyn Vincent for the version in his book and Ian Marshall says it sounds like a composed Victorian Ballad.
I'll keep looking.
John


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: Greyeyes
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 04:18 AM

Many thanks for responses & suggestions.


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: breezy
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 07:31 AM

Mervyn eh? sing yer buggers, find out how the choirs got it, find the connection.


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: songsearch
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 07:20 PM

I love the white rose in its splendour, I love the white rose in its bloom. I love the white rose, So fair as she grows. Its the rose that reminds me of you. This the chorus of the version we sing in "Elsie`s Band" Give us a shout if this is what you would like>¬


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: GUEST,Sue White
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 12:27 PM

Full words on my White Rose website

http://sites.google.com/site/suewhiterose

Best wishes everyone!

Sue White


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: GUEST,Mark
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 02:16 AM

From what I have been told living and being born in Cornwall it's a sing about the Cornish Bal maids, they were the young girls that worked in the Cornish mines, started work around the age of 10 and having enjoyed the Cornish sunshine until then their cheeks warm and red, after years of working in the arsenic rich air they became pale and sick, that's the story I was always told anyway


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Subject: RE: The White Rose (Cornish trad.)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jun 19 - 05:36 AM

It's a well-known Friggin' Riggin' song here in Bude. They even used to pass the words around...


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