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Lyr Req: Songs by Harry Clifton (1832-1872)

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LANIGAN'S BALL
PADDLE MY OWN CANOE


Related threads:
Lyr Add: True Blue and Seventy-Two (H. Clifton) (6)
Lyr Add: Pulling Hard Against the Stream (Clifton) (11)
Lyr Req: Ten Minutes Too Late (Harry Clifton) (24)
Lyr Add: Where There's a Will (Harry Clifton) (27)
Lyr Add: Robinson Crusoe (Harry Clifton) (24)
Harry Clifton again (16)
Lyr Add: Weepin' Willer (Harry Clifton) (2)
Lyr Add: It's Not the Miles We Travel (H Clifton) (2)
Lyr Add: The Way to Be Happy (Harry Clifton) (2)
Lyr Add: Shabby Genteel (Harry Clifton) (3)
Lyr Req: Paddle Your Own Canoe (Harry Clifton) (16)
Lyr Add: A Motto for Every Man (Harry Clifton) (4)
Lyr Add: Where the Grass Grows Green (H Clifton) (7)
Lyr Add: Jones' Musical Party (Harry Clifton) (14)
Lyr Add: Never Look Behind (Harry Clifton) (6)
Lyr Add: The Family Man (Harry Clifton) (2)
Lyr Add: Folly and Fashion (John LaBern) (2)
Lyr Add: Darby McGuire/M'Guire (D.K. Gavan) (1)
Lyr Add: Very Suspicious (Harry Clifton) (7)
Lyr Add: Up with the Lark in the Morning (Clifton) (2)
Lyr Add: The Young Man on the Railway (H Clifton) (5)
Lyr Add: The Railway Belle (Harry Clifton) (4)
Lyr Add: Isabella, the Barber's Daughter (Clifton) (5)
Lyr Add: Granny Snow (Harry Clifton) (5)
Lyr Add: I Am One of the Olden Time (H. Clifton) (6)
Tune Add: Jemima Brown (Harry Clifton) (9)
Lyr Add: A Jolly Old Country Squire (H. Clifton) (3)
Lyr Add: Mary-Ann or The Roving Gardener (Clifton) (3)
Lyr Add: Up a Tree (Harry Clifton) (3)
Lyr Add: My Mother-in-Law (Harry Clifton) (3)
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Steve Gardham 26 Jul 17 - 04:51 PM
GUEST,Jolly 20 Feb 17 - 01:42 PM
GUEST, Betty M.J. 27 May 14 - 11:59 AM
GUEST, Sminky 27 May 14 - 10:29 AM
MartinRyan 27 May 14 - 08:07 AM
GUEST,GUEST Betty M. J. 23 May 14 - 02:57 PM
Steve Gardham 07 Nov 12 - 02:32 PM
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GUEST, Sminky 24 Aug 10 - 09:46 AM
Jim Dixon 21 Aug 10 - 01:24 AM
Artful Codger 09 Aug 10 - 01:48 PM
GUEST, Sminky 09 Aug 10 - 07:30 AM
GUEST,Chris` 09 Aug 10 - 07:06 AM
Artful Codger 09 Jul 10 - 05:37 AM
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Steve Gardham 07 Jul 10 - 06:12 AM
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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter (1832-1872)
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 04:51 PM

Have just acquired further HC songs including 4 ones I haven't already got sheet music to.

Never Look Behind
Percy St. Barbe
My Matilda Jane or, Married on Michaelmas Day
I'm Number One.

The third one mentions all the girls in the other songs who rejected him.

The book is Harry Clifton's Book of Comic and Motto Songs, published by Ascherberg, Hopwood & Crew. It has 16 songs in it, but 12 are already dealt with above. It's serial number is H&C 1862. I'd guess about 1885.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter (1832-1872)
From: GUEST,Jolly
Date: 20 Feb 17 - 01:42 PM

Hello, I would be delighted if anyone could give me information about Mr William Halliday, who wrote the music for Mr Harry Clifton's song "Awfully Jolly". He may be the same William Halliday who was the pianist in Mr Harry Clifton's Concert Company - Jan 10 1869. I would like to know if this William Halliday is the same person as my great-grandfather William Halliday (1842-1878) who was a music shop keeper and piano maker on Whitechapel Road in the East End of London. One of his sons went into Music Hall, so I think it is possible.

See Sminky's post of 14 May 10 - 09:23 AM

Many thanks


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Betty M.J.
Date: 27 May 14 - 11:59 AM

Sminky, thank you for the suggestion. I did look at that website and they do have some of Harry's songs (and I will use it when I need sheet music for his other songs) but sadly they do not carry "Where There's A Will" anymore. Thank you so much though!

If anybody knows where to find or if you have the sheet music online (or know where I can hear a video of the song's tune) please, please do not hesitate to respond to this thread. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 27 May 14 - 10:29 AM

This site has the dots for some of Harry's songs (type 'Harry Clifton' in the search box).


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: MartinRyan
Date: 27 May 14 - 08:07 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST,GUEST Betty M. J.
Date: 23 May 14 - 02:57 PM

Hello! Does anybody happen to have or know where I could find sheet music or music on a video or CD of Harry Clifton's song Where There's A Will?

I did find lyrics on this website and a snipbit of the song(under a name of MIDI) but I'd like to hear or have the music to play the whole song (as I can play a wee bit of piano).
Please reply to this message or email sospower@outlook.com!


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 07 Nov 12 - 02:32 PM

GUEST,
Thanks for your offer. If you look back at the 2008 postings on this thread you will see messages from 4 others of Harry's descendants.

Carole Wallis
Robert P
Mark Turner
K Ball.

It would be great to see a wewbsite devoted to Harry's life and songs.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 12 - 12:53 PM

Henry "Harry" Clifton, singer and songwriter was my paternal great grandfather. If you care to contact me sometime, I can tell you the names of his children.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:46 AM

HENRY ROBERT CLIFTON

22 January (1873)

Administration (with the Will and Codicil) of the effects of Henry Robert Clifton, late of 26 St. Stephen's-road, Shepherd's Bush, in the County of Middlesex, Public Singer, who died 15 July 1872 at 26 St. Stephen's-road, was granted at the Principal Registry to Frances Wright Edwards of 26 St. Stephen's-road, Spinster, the Universal Legatee, for Life.

Effects under £6,000.


(My punctuation). Looks like Fanny won the 'battle of wills'.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 01:24 AM

I posted the lyrics to AS WELCOME AS THE FLOWERS IN MAY, written by Harry Clifton, in the thread Lyr Req: songs in the play 'Love on the Dole'


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 01:48 PM

You may find a broadside version (probably closer to Clifton's original song) at The Bodleian Library ballads site. Clifton's song begins, "I live at the mill, at the foot of the hill / Where the streams run rippling by."

The Clifton lyrics were also quoted in Gem of the West and Soldiers' Friend, Volume 7 (1873, p. 128). A plain-text OCR'd view is available.

If you have a tune for this, we'd appreciate getting hold of it. If you have a MIDI, send a PM to Joe Offer to arrange a transfer. If you have notated music or a sound file, PM me and I can help with a transcription to ABC/MIDI.

[There is also a song titled "You're Welcome as the Flowers in May" which was written by Dan J. Sullivan: "Last night I dreamed a sweet, sweet dream..." Entirely different beast.]


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 07:30 AM

Chris - a version was collected by Alfred Williams.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST,Chris`
Date: 09 Aug 10 - 07:06 AM

Does anybody have the lyrics to As Welcome As The flowers in MAY?

Regards


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Subject: The Adventures of Robinson Crusoe
From: Artful Codger
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 05:37 AM

New thread for "The Adventures of Robinson Crusoe", a "comic medley extravaganza" with lyrics by Harry Clifton set to a number of popular tunes:
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=130676
Lyrics posted; ABCs and MIDIs to follow. In that thread, I'll also provide information on the works Clifton used, as well as lyrics and full tunes, when I've been able to obtain them.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 12:32 PM

CORN EXCHANGE, PRESTON
Thursday and Friday, January 13th and 14th

Mr Harry Clifton "will select eight of the following comic and chorus songs:-
Comical Concert, Wedding of Biddy M'Grane, Shabby Genteel, Put the break on, Wait for the turn of the tide, The adventures of Robinson Crusoe (new comic extravaganza), Musical miseries, Ten minutes too late, Rip von Groggenheim &c. &c. and will, in conjunction with Miss Fanny Edwards, appear in two comic burlesque medley duets entitled Cupid in the kitchen and The style of the period, introducing parodies on the most popular songs of the day."

Preston Guardian, Jan 8 1870

Rip von who??? The only Google entry I can find is that it was sung in New Zealand some 5 years later.

I actually sang on the stage of the Corn Exchange when I was a lad of 10 or 11. The bulldozers moved in during the 1970's to make way for a new road. Just the entrance foyer (now a pub) remains. Ah, me.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 06:12 AM

Interesting, yes. The date would appear to be wrong. She emigrated to the US in the 1880s, we have the date somewhere above, so presumably it is dated before then. Clifton's songs certainly went through a revival in the 1880s.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 06:08 AM

I should have added that Mr. Julian Edwards was Pianist and Musical Director of the event.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 05:54 AM

Very true, Steve. I just wish he'd live a bit longer (It's not the miles we travel, but the pace that kills!).

Here's a 'family gathering' I found in the John Johnson Archive of Printed Ephemera (Bodleian Library):

          Agricultural Hall, Brignorth

                One Night Only,

             Saturday, 30th August

         Popular Concert and Operetta Party
During the evening:

Miss Fanny Edwards (Mrs. H. Clifton) will sing

Ye maiden in springtime, (Dinorah), The Minstrel Boy, Whither, Ship Boy's Letter, &c.

Miss Annie Kinnaird will sing

Snake in the Grass, Bailiff's Daughter, While walking out so early, &c.

Mr. Redfern Hollins will sing

Death of Nelson, Dreaming all the day, Pilgrim of Love, &c.

Mr. E. C. Dunbar will sing

Selections from all the most refined effusions of the day, including

Ten Minutes too late, Don't be after Ten, Harry Clifton.


Inexplicably, the website gives the 'date of the event' as Tuesday November 23rd 1909. Fanny Edwards died in the US in 1908, of course.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 02:06 PM

Fascinating stuff, Sminky.

Somebody should write the book or at least set up a website. As far as material ending up in oral tradition is concerned there can't be many other writers/performers who have contributed so much, whether you like his stuff or not.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 10:10 AM

Digging into people's genealogical background often throws up some interesting info:

Fanny (Frances Wright) Edwards was a Burnley lass, born 1843 to a Scottish father, George, and Irish mother, Alice.

A lodger at their Curzon St. home in 1851 was an Edward Wilson, comedian, and one wonders whether this exposure to 'show business' at an early age was to influence her career path (the alternative was working in the cotton mill, presumably). She was already styled 'vocalist', aged 17, by the time the family had moved to Manchester.

Her sister Hannah (b.Burnley 1852) married the tenor Redfern Hollins (b.Sheffield) and adopted the stage name of Miss Annie Kinnaird. Husband and wife were both members of HC's travelling company (see above).

A brother George (b. Manchester 1855) adopted the name of Julian Edwards and became a successful composer on Broadway.

Interestingly, Fanny styled herself 'Fanny Clifton, widow' on the 1881 census.

Fanny Edwards


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Subject: The Weepin' Willer
From: Artful Codger
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 05:06 AM

New thread for "The Weepin' Willer":
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=130380


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 12:30 AM

New threads for:

It's Not the Miles We Travel, But the Pace That Kills:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=130179

The Way to Be Happy:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=130178


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Subject: Shabby Genteel
From: Artful Codger
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 04:23 PM

New thread for "Shabby Genteel":
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=130117
Lyrics and two settings, one (presumably) by Clifton, the other by Gus Williams.


I also recently posted the original versions of these songs in their respective threads:

Faithless Maria; or She Lived in the Land of Green Ginger:
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=67211

I'll Go and Enlist for a Sailor; or Song of the Unfortunate Tailor:
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=25049

Many thanks to Mike Heaney for his transcriptions of some of the Clifton songs from sheet music in the Bodley vaults!


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 02:11 AM

New thread for "Wait for the Turn of the Tide":
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=130051


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 06:46 AM

Lyrics (and soon, MIDI) for "Where the Grass Grows Green" posted to the thread "Lyr Req: Danny Blake":
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5352
(The song begins "I'm Denny Blake from County Clare")

In that thread, Jim Dixon had previously posted the lyrics from an American broadside. The version I posted is from American sheet music corresponding a bit closer to the original. The Bodley has several broadside copies of the lyrics online, and two copies of the original sheet music in its stacks.


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Subject: A Motto for Every Man
From: Artful Codger
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 06:11 PM

New thread for "A Motto for Every Man":
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129964


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 03:05 PM

The newspapers for Sept/Oct 1871 in NY, California and Australia should throw some light on it.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST,Sminky
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 11:27 AM

I've been tracing the last few months of Harry's life (all quoted are form Era Magazine unless otherwise stated):

Jan 1870
Fifth year of his Concert Company's tour of the UK begins, starting in Edinburgh (where Fanny Edwards sang 'Murmur of the Shell').

Known Venues: Edinburgh, Gt. Yarmouth, Ipswich, Gravesend, Falmouth, Folkestone, Bristol, Aberdare, Hereford, Bury (Lancs.), Dublin.

Nov 6 1870 - Dublin
"In Dublin Mr. Clifton spent much of his early life and in Dublin he has achieved both fame and success. His occasional visits to his old home are always welcome."

Known Venues: Accrington, Bradford, Bacup, Bridgewater.

Sep 10 1871
"Harry Clifton - This favourite vocalist, author and composer leaves for a time the scenes of his early triumph, and early in '72, under the management of Mr F.J.Cooper, business director for Colonel Holmes Gorver, sails for New York, California, Japan, the Sandwich Islands and Australia."

Dec 10 1871
"Unfortunately, the 'Prince of Comics' was suffering from a severe cold, and after a couple of unuccessful attempts, had to retire for the evening."

Feb 1872
Known Venues: Bedford, Gt Yarmouth.

Apr 21
"Mr Redfern Hollins, Tenor, and Miss Annie Kinniard [sic], Soprano, conclude their third season with Harry Clifton's Concert Company on May 4th, when they will be at Liberty to accept Engagements."

May 3 - Bath Assembly Rooms
"On the 3d inst. Mr Harry Clifton and his talented party gave a farewell concert at these rooms."

July 21
Announcement of Harry's death.


There are no announcements of any new songs throughout this period.

The Bath 'farewell' concert is aptly named - it appears to be his last.

Did he go on his 'world trip'? Was it strictly a business venture, or for health reasons?

Did Hollins and Kinnaird jump ship because they realised there would be no more tours?


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Subject: Never Look Behind (Harry Clifton)
From: Artful Codger
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 03:56 AM

New thread for "Never Look Behind":
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129936


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 03:27 AM

New thread for "The Family Man" (A Respectable Family Man):
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129901


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE HARDWARE LINE (Harry Clifton)
From: Artful Codger
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:46 PM

THE HARDWARE LINE.
   [Words by Harry Clifton, 1865.
   Music by Andrew Banks.
   Arranged by Martin Hobson.]

Yes, my old dad was a money making notary
   And, sipping his wine, has often told
That woman was a riddle aad marriage a lottery,
   And wives at the Altar were bought and sold.
     His reason for this I cannot divine,
     For it was not the case with the wife of mine,
She'd a father, and a mother, and a sister, and a brother.
     And they all got a living in the Hardware line.
                Chorus—She'd a father, etc.

The words that he utter'd caused quite a panic
   In my youthful mind, so I soon did decide
To cut broad cloth, and, in the garb of a mechanic,
   From the unwash'd multitude seek a bride,
     'Twas there I found this wife of mine,
     When I laid my heart at Cupid's shrine,
She'd a father, and a mother, and a sister, and a brother
     And they all got a living in the Hardware line.
                She'd a father, etc.

Ev'ry town and village I did rummage 'em,
   England, Ireland, and Scotland through,
Till at last I came to the good old town of Brummagem,
   A second edition of the Wand'ring Jew ;
     'Twas there I lost this heart of mine
     To one of the gender feminine ;
She'd a father, and a mother, aud a sister, and a brother.
     And they all got a living in the Hardware line.
                She'd a father, etc.

Her brother was a gunsmith, her sister was a burnisher,
   Her mother made buttons at three-pence a gross,
Her father he plated harness furniture,
   She kept the books of profit and loss;
     Three months for her did I waste and pine,
     Before I asked her to resign ;
Her father, and her mother, her sister, and her brother
     That all got a living in the Hardware line.
                Her father, etc.

She's a first rate hand at a brewing or a baking,
   She can knit silk purses, or make mince pies,
Her bonnets and her dresses are all her own making,
   Her home-made bread takes all by surprise;
     Champagne or Claret from the banks of the Rhine
     Can't be compared to her Gooseberry wine,
Tho' she's a father, and a mother, and a sister, and a brother,
     And they all get a living in the Hardware line.
                Tho' she's a father, etc.

My days they pass in one round of pleasure,
   I feel as if I should never grow old,
For a wife that is good is a priceless treasure,
   And more to a man than silver and gold;
     Far better than a useless lady-fine,
     Is this busy, merry, cheerful little wife of mine,
Tho' she's a father, and a mother, and a sister, and a brother,
     And they all get a living in the Hardware line.
                Tho' she's a father, etc.


Source: Tony Pastor's Carte de Visite Album Songster (1865), p.31
Part of the set of songsters labelled _Tony Pastor's 201 Bowery Songster_:
        http://books.google.com/books?id=l4kvAAAAYAAJ
Note: Pagination resets for each songster

From the OLIS catalog:
Written & sung ... by Harry Clifton; sung also by Frank Sadlier.
[Composed by Andrew Banks; arranged by M. Hobson.]
London : Hopwood & Crew, [1865]
H & C.588


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Subject: Lyr Add: BROKEN DOWN (Harry Clifton)
From: Artful Codger
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:14 PM

BROKEN DOWN
   Written and sung by Harry Clifton. [1860s]

Once I'd money plenty!
   And friends, too, by the score,
Then fortune smiled upon me
   And no one pass'd my door,
Now I'm poor and lonely,
   And not worth half-a-crown,
Now no one seems to know me,
   I'm completely Broken Down!

        CHORUS.
   I wander thro' the world,
     And meet with many a frown,
   No one seerns to know me now,
     Because I'm Broken Down.

With an ample fortune
   I went it rather fast,
The pace was almost killing,
   And I found it couldn't last
Too proud to put the curb on,
   I thought myself high bred,
And now, for want of bread at times
   I have to fast instead.

The immortal Shakespeare
   Says, "All the world's a stage
And every man must play his part,
   From childhood to old age,"
And when I think of days gone by,
   How I was made a fool
Of rogues, and sharps, 'tis then I know
   My part has been the fool.
        I wander, &c.

Friends could recognize me,
   When Poole he made my coat,
But when I had no note to change,
   How soon they changed their note.
An object sad and needy,
   I wander thro' the town,
A living paradox am I,
   Hard up, yet broken down.

   I wander thro' the world,
     And meet with many a frown.
   The time to try your friends you'll find
       Is when you've Broken Down.

Source: Bodley Ballads, Harding B 11(199); between 1840 and 1866
Printer: J. Harkness, Preston. Sheet no.: 978
On same sheet: Bear good will to all men


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Subject: Folly and Fashion
From: Artful Codger
Date: 31 May 10 - 10:13 PM

New thread for "Folly and Fashion", a duet sung by Harry Clifton and Fanny Edwards:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129869


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Subject: Very Suspicious / Awfully Jolly
From: Artful Codger
Date: 29 May 10 - 10:36 PM

New thread for the song "Very Suspicious":
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129824
This "song" incorporates tunes from nine other songs, which I'm either posting or linking. Among them is Clifton's song "Awfully Jolly"; I'll be posting lyrics, ABC and MIDI for "Awfully Jolly" in the same thread.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 27 May 10 - 06:47 PM

Could it be "Meet Me Down by the Sea", "Composed and sung by H. S. Thompson"? (Canteen Songster, 1866)


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 27 May 10 - 06:34 PM

I'd have thought 1835 was too early, Mick. It's possibly one of HC's lesser known pieces.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 27 May 10 - 06:24 PM

BL catalogue has an entry of that name from c1835 published by George and Manby, London: Down By The Sea, a ballad written and composed with an accompaniment for the pianoforte by F.W.Smith.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 27 May 10 - 02:57 PM

'Down by the Sea'
New one on me.
Kilgarriff has a song of that title but it's dated 1891 so it can't be that. I can't see it on the lists on any of the back covers.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 27 May 10 - 12:29 PM

No composer given for this one:

"
'Down by the Sea'
Sung by Miss Fanny Edwards at Mr Harry Clifton's Popular concerts.

Words and music at Hopwood and Crew's, 42, New bond-street."

Era, Feb 18 1866


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Subject: Jones' Musical Party
From: Artful Codger
Date: 27 May 10 - 02:27 AM

New thread for "Jones' Musical Party":
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129753
This is a rather long piece, a "song of songs". A polyphonic MIDI of the whole piece is on the way; meantime, there are ABCs of the main parts, as well as the usual lyrics and notes, and some information on a the songs used.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 25 May 10 - 03:40 PM

No probs, Sminky.
Hopefully when we've got as much Clifton stuff up there as we can we'll be able to make a start on Joe Geoghegan, and then Harry Fox, Harry Linn, Arthur Lloyd, Sam Cowell etc. All of these left us a decent legacy of folk song.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 25 May 10 - 05:45 AM

Steve,

Sorry about my mix-up (again!). HC and JBG have become one and the same person in my head!


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Subject: A Jolly Old Country Squire
From: Artful Codger
Date: 25 May 10 - 03:51 AM

New thread for "A Jolly Old Country Squire" (also titled "The Leicestershire Squire"):
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129708
With lyrics, notes and ABC transcription from the original sheet music. MIDI of melody to follow.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 24 May 10 - 02:19 AM

New thread for "Granny Snow": http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129677
With lyrics, notes and ABC transcription from the original sheet music. MIDI (voice and accompaniment) to follow.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 23 May 10 - 10:14 PM

New thread for "Jemima Brown (the Queen of the Sewing Machine)": http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=12967511
Original sheet music at the Levy. I posted an ABC/MIDI of the melody and linked to lyrics at Word on the Street transcribed from a broadside.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 May 10 - 05:38 AM

New thread for "True Blue and Seventy-Two" (cover says "Seventy-Two and Hard as Steel"): http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=129633
With a transcription of the lyrics, and ABC of the melody and (soon) a couple MIDIs.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 21 May 10 - 08:36 PM

"The Girls of ___ Road" is probably "The Girls up the Road" (in the online Bodley collection). Within the lyrics, the road's name is blanked out (as in the first-given title), presumably to avoid lawsuits--it's about hookers.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 21 May 10 - 03:59 PM

Sminky,
I have a full set on microfiche of 'The Glasgow Poet's Box' which is presumably the dated broadsides you refer to. Clifton seems to have been particularly popular in Glasgow. I haven't registered 'The Girls of _____Road' as a Clifton song. Once again I would imagine this is a Joe Geoghegan song, 'The Girls of Glossop Road'. It starts 'I'm just in the vein to sing you a strain'. I haven't got a note of that particular copy, but in looking in my indexes I found another version 'The Girls Up the Road' printed by Such of London. The song is on our website www.yorkshirefolksong.net sung by Ken Hinchliffe.

Aha! just found another version in the Glasgow Poet's Box where it's called 'The Girls of Paisley Road'. Great stuff. If you hadn't posted that I wouldn't have connected all of these 4 versions. All of this needs transferring to the Geoghegan thread.


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 21 May 10 - 09:56 AM

and some more 'no longer available':

A Bit of My Mind
sung by Harry Clifton
Words & Music: Harry Clifton

Bear it like a Man
sung by Harry Clifton
Words & Music: H Clifton, arr. M Hobson

Love and Pride
Words & Music: H Clifton, M Hobson

Never Look Behind or Whats the use of Looking Back
sung by Harry Clifton
dedicated to Mr John Skinner
Words & Music: Harry Clifton

Polly Perkins of Paddington Green or the Broken Hearted Milkman
Words & Music: Harry Clifton, Arr. J Candy

Pulling Hard Against the Stream
Words & Music: M Hobson, H Clifton

Very Suspicious
comic duet sung by Fanny Edwards & Harry Clifton
Words & Music: Harry Clifton, Arr. M Hobson

Where Theres a Will Theres a Way
serio comic song sung by Harry Clifton & Fred French
Words & Music: H Clifton, Arr. M Hobson


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Subject: RE: Help: Harry Clifton Songwriter
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 21 May 10 - 06:53 AM

A list of HC titles on sale at The SheetMusic Warehouse:

Forty Years Ago
sung by Fanny Edwards at Harry Cliftons Concerts
W&M: Arthur Willoughby

I Am One of the Olden Time or Fifty Years Ago
sung by Harry Clifton, W&M: H Clifton, Arr. M Hobson

Jones Musical Party (The Comical Concert)
a song of songs sung by Harry Clifton
W&M: H Clifton, Arr. M Hobson

Mary Ann or The Roving Gardener
W&M: Harry Clifton

My Mother in Law or Advice to persons about to Marry
W&M: Harry Clifton

My Old Wife
Characteristic Song sung by Harry Clifton
W&M: H Clifton, Arr. M Hobson

On Board of the Kangaroo
sung by Harry Clifton
W&M: H Clifton, J Candy

Paddle Your Own Canoe
The Celebrated Song - Transcribed for Pianoforte, Written and Sung by Mr Harry Clifton
Transcribed for Pianoforte by Brinley Richards

Paddle your own Canoe
sung by Fred French, also sung by Hary Clifton
Harry Clifton, Arr. M Hobson

The Way to be Happy
a song with a sentiment sung by Harry Clifton, dedicated to Duncan McLaren
W&M: H Clifton

Up with the Lark in the Morning
serio-comic song sung by Harry Clifton
W&M. H Clifton, F A Springthorpe, Arr. M Hobson

Love and Pride
W&M: H Clifton, M Hobson

Modern times or Past and Present
W&M: H Clifton, C Coote Jun


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