Help: Home on the range: composer please

Subject: Home on the range: composer please
From: Mr Happy
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 12:51 PM

hi folks!

currently collecting 'cowboy songs'

anyone have any background on 'home on the range'?

author,date etc?

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 01:11 PM

there are a couple of threads discussing this song, but not sure how you could find them, here's this info

Poem was written by Dr. Brewster Higley in 1871. Music was added by the Harlan Bros. in 1873.

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 01:13 PM

Mr Happy, using the handy search boxes at the top of the main page would get you back to this thread from just a couple of weeks ago.

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 01:16 PM

type in home on the range in the filter box, set the age to 3 years and you'll get a few threads

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 01:18 PM

See threads 6501 and 51550

Home
Home

But see the whole story: Home on the Range

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST,Arjay
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 01:30 PM

Higley may have formally published his poem in 1871, but he wrote it about 1859. See the threads mentioned above for much more elaboration on the history of this song and for links to other sites that detail the song's history.

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Sep 02 - 04:16 PM

The threads posted above show that the words were published first in 1873 in the Pioneer, but the earliest preserved is the Kirwin Chief of 1876.
Links in the threads to the University of Kansas site show that Higley married his fourth wife in Illinois in 1866 and took to drink, apparently coming to Kansas in 1870-1871. He probably wrote the poem at that time. There is no concrete evidence of an earlier date.

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 01:14 AM

Mr. Happy,

There IS such a thing as "stupid questions" and you ask a lot of them.

The tools are at your immediate disposal, use them, please.

You are much too accomplished, to be calling out, "Mommy, I need help."

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From:
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 07:33 AM

Actually, Mr. Happy.

The only STUPID question is the one which isn't asked.
I see no reason for not asking the question.

Gargoyle, he probably had not realized this question's been asked before.
Is there some reason for your vehemence.

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 01:34 PM

Gargoyle is a GUEST, George, and anyone could post using that name--He uses his unique style of acid vehemence just so we know it is really him--that aside, his point has merit--

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 01:37 PM

gargy,

take care! i mean it kindly 8-]

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 02:29 PM

I put Home on the range into search and forum and timed out twice. The filter (whose use should be explained near the filter box) is not understood by many mudcatters. It turned up one of two main threads.
It takes some experience to use either one fully. I'm with George on this. The query often turns up information not in the DT.

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 04:40 PM

gargh,

and I mean it most sincerely.

yours affectionately,

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: Mr Happy
Date: 28 Sep 02 - 05:15 PM

There IS such a thing as "stupid questions" and you ask a lot of them.[gargee]

'if i can help sumboddy as i pass along, then mi livin' will not be in vane'

sinserlee,

mr h

cum on gargy, lets hav sum 9fun!

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: Genie
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 10:19 PM

I stand corrected. I could have sworn that some of the sites linked to above, and Fulghum's anecdotes, gave an earlier date for Brewster's writing of the original "Western Home" poem. But checking these various sites, I see that the 1872 date has got to be about right.

Higley was not even born until 1811, and he went to Kansas after the death of his third wife, and it was finding solace on the plains there that prompted him to write the poem.

Check out these links for more information:

Classic Cowboy Poetry      

      U. Kansas - Kansas Sights

      NPR on Brewster Higley and Home On the Range

       American Bison

    brief bio of Brewster Higley

      Kansas Literature - The writing of "Western Home" by B. Higley

(Let's see how this new-fangled clicky maker works.)

Genie

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 04:50 AM

I had a look in my Country fake book and Home On The Range is given as traditional, with publishing owned by Dorsey Brothers Music. I then checked all the other Trad songs in there, and they all attribute the publishing rights to Dorsey Bros. And by a bizarre coincidence, the book's publishers have the same address as Dorsey Bros Music!

BJ

Subject: RE: Help: Home on the range: composer please
From: masato sakurai
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 09:45 AM

184 versions (very likely most are arrangements) of "Home on the Range" are registered at ASCAP. David W. Guion alone registered 4 items; One is "Home Home on the Range".

~Masato