Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)

Subject: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From:
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 04:50 PM

I am looking for the phonetic pronuciation for the lyrics to the Irish National Anthem. (The Soldier Song)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 05:14 PM

http://www.homestead.com/div8aoh/Soldierssong.html (click here)

Posted on a previous thread by Brakn.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Haruo
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 07:24 PM

kyolwar for "ceomhar"? Does "mh" regularly (or predictably) involve an "L" sound??

I know from a Sassenach POV Irish Gaelic spelling is not entirely user-friendly, but this bit seems more counterintuitive than usual. Like Fijian C and Q or something.

Haruo

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 07:49 PM

Keep working at it and you will get there. But remember what Bill Bryson (A man I have a lot of respect for) said -

The Irish language was invented by 2 different commitees. One did the spoken word and one the written. Trouble is the 2 did not speak to each other...;-)

(Slaine pronounced 'Slan-jay' means'Cheers'...)

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 08:41 PM

I think it should be ceolmhar, Haruo- ie they left the l out. My limited knowledge of Irish includes the word ceol = music.

And Dave, it's Slainte! (hic)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Malachy
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 11:29 PM

I think I'm right in saying, ...it's pronounced..Slawn-cha! There's no 'J' in the irish alphabet..
Mal.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Declan
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 04:52 AM

Yes it is ceolmhar meaning musical.

and Sláinte means Health more like Slawn-Cheh.

By the way ceómhar means foggy.

Ath-bhlian faoi shéan agus faoi mhaise dhaoibh go léir.
(ah-vlee-an f-wee hay-ne og-gus f-wee wash-eh Yee-ve guh lair)

A peaceful and prosperous new year to you all.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Declan
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 05:09 AM

For those of you who've spotted the error in the text linked to above, the last line of the verse is missing. But as it is the same as the last line of the chorus (The bit that starts Sinne Fianna Fáil), this is not a major problem.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: irish anthem (phonetics)
From: Snuffy
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 06:23 AM

Pronouncing Irish is easy - you just look at the words and pronounce the letters that aren't there!

WassaiL! V