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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Kim C Date: 18 Mar 03 - 02:19 PM Oh, okay then. I didn't know that. This is only my second season keeping up with racing. How about that photo finish on Sunday! I'm surprised Kurt Busch didn't put his foot in his mouth after he got second place... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST Date: 18 Mar 03 - 02:26 PM It was a fine race - mainly gentle men that race in the circuit so they rarely bad mouth each other - as opposed to Bobert's jerkwad rantings above as to heritage. (Those of us who follow the circuit are not always gentle people). And whoever put "heroic" and "dixie chicks" in the same sentence doesn't have a clue. That would be analogous to John Wayne actually being a "hero." Rubbish - |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Marion Date: 18 Mar 03 - 03:34 PM The phrase "respect the office" has come up a few times - what does that mean exactly? Marion |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST Date: 18 Mar 03 - 03:40 PM It comes from the Officer Corps. One may not respect the individual officer but one must respect the rank. It's the assumption that by virtue of obtaining the position one should be respected - but not always. But the position itself is one of respect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,joe Date: 18 Mar 03 - 03:43 PM she's quoting monica. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Kim C Date: 18 Mar 03 - 04:09 PM Yeah, gentlemen except for Kurt Busch and Jimmy Spencer and who was it that got suspended last year for smacking someone on pit road? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo Date: 18 Mar 03 - 04:17 PM Kim: Do you really think that time to sit back, be silent, and let others do the thinking for you, is when people's lives are on the line? Just a thought. As for Mark Twain, do you seriously think that he thought it a good think to keep one's mouth shut? You'd have a hard time convincing this Mark Twain fan that he thought that "silence if golden". If he did, he was the world's biggest hypocrite, and I'm firmly convinced he was no such think. Mr. Soresomethingoranother: Arne, I don't think you play or sing squat! I suspect you are on some payroll-which one?-, and worried about the bottom line, as well as being a certain kind of person who will say or do almost anything for more green stuff, hence your presence here, did the 'Manager' send you, are you the dude with the Limo? Dunno, Mr. SF, sounds like _you're_ the one here who's been bought. No, I'm not on any "payroll". Yes, I do play, but not professionally. Yes, I was DJ for a number of years, working for _nothing_, because I loved it. Why do you assume that I must be on the take to hold the positions I do? I'm curious. This thread is not about G W Bush, it is about a big mouthed babe . . . ... who was commenting on Dubya. . . . who dragged an entire state into her foreign public arena privilidged US citizen entertainer put down of G W, it is about the fact that lots of people in Texas not only disaggree with her, but take the opposite view, . . . Imagine my surprise. But it doesn't seem thatthe cause iof your ire was her supposed misrepresentation of the feelings of Texas. Hell, you're just as free to tell the world what _you_ think that the Texas Borg thinks, and it seems you're doing it, so I'm not sure I see what you're complaining about. . . . it is about Texas ain't cowardly, it is about hushing some little spoilt brat who is putting Allied lives in danger by her drunk drugged MISINFORMED outburst, . . . Into ad hominem attack IC. finaly it is about a measured and appropriate response - not the sort that Saddam and Co would be dealing out=a firing squad= though at first that did occur to me- in short Mr Arne moneygrabber it is about knowing the difference between fact and fantasy. "Mr Arne moneygrubber", eh? Your discernment for fact would explain your position vis a vis Dubya's lies as well, I suppose. . . . To sell more CDs . . . LOL. You think she was trying to seel more CDs???? . . . she blabbed and she stabbed Texas in the BACK now she got caught and has to be gagged. Her bleatings about how sorry she is, ain't gonna help her at all, this is War. . . . IC. Natalie Maines has joined the ranks of "Sodamn Insane" and Hitler, even? . . . Not only will Joepublic not buy her shit, I am willing to bet some enlisted babe will take a poke at her. So B4 this is ova, Earl's fate may be one she prays for. IC. Glad to see your true nature coming through. My response is 'hey Chics remember Earl, yeah that one?, the cops have reopened the case, and you are No 1 suspects' You seem to be having difficulty making an aquaintance with reality. Cheers, -- Arne Langsetmo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST, herc Date: 18 Mar 03 - 04:30 PM Silliness. Just a bleached blonde being a bleached blonde. I doubt that Samuel Clemens would talk trash about his family outside the family. And if he didn't talk substance, he would at least use wit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: JedMarum Date: 18 Mar 03 - 04:59 PM wow - I go off an celebrate St Patrick's Day, and I miss out on all this fun! I don't know where to begin ... Yeah Rick, maybe it's a tempest in a teacup. I'm already over it. Truth is I like the Chick's music - not a fan, but appreciate their work and their style - I don't suppose this'll make much difference to me down the road. michaelr - I never talked about the war with Brian, but I don;t see this as an idealogical issue. I believe, as most Americans do, that we can wait for this war to come to us, or take care of it now. That is not an idealogical point-of-view. anyway - lots of other comments here, but I'm not bothered about the subject anymore. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: YOR Date: 18 Mar 03 - 05:17 PM I nominate Bobert for the daily prize of luring in a gutless guest (or two). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,Texas Date: 18 Mar 03 - 05:20 PM Arne the DJ says 'You seem to be having difficulty making an aquaintance with reality.' Business must be REAL bad down at the Radio Station. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST Date: 18 Mar 03 - 05:44 PM I second the nomination for Bobert - being one I should know - right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Kim C Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:19 PM Arne, I don't know where you got the idea that I EVER sit back and let anyone think for me. You don't know me. If you did, you would not have made such a ridiculous remark. I think everyone with decent manners knows that there is a time to keep one's mouth shut. Yelling Fire in a crowded theatre and all that. Isn't that why we have two ears and one mouth? All freedoms carry responsibilities with them. I have the freedom to own a gun, but I have the responsibility not to aim it recklessly at people. Words are the same way, Arne. They are powerful tools that shouldn't be used indiscriminately. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 19 Mar 03 - 04:35 PM Don't worry Kim C, off of the internet Arne is a ?????. "Arne the DJ says 'You seem to be having difficulty making ->>>an aquaintance with reality.'<<<--- Business must be REAL bad down at the Radio Station. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo Date: 20 Mar 03 - 12:19 PM Mr. Soresomethingoranother apparently also has difficulty reading. I said I _was_ a DJ (for no pay) for a number of years. A bit of intelligence or a Google search might have come up with the conclusion that I wasn't a DJ at a commercial station, so comments about "business [being] real bad" are probably poorly aimed. This station did _not_ have a play list, and I played whatever I damn well pleased, as I'm sure the present DJs do as well. Kim: When you sit back and accept that there is no recourse but _immediate_ war, or acquiesce to its legitimacy because it's already started, you're letting others do your thinking for you. If _you_ have decided that this war is necessary _right now_, well and fine; we'll disagree. But if you were of a different opinion but now think that the time for silence has come, then I think you do not do your own thoughts proper justice. This is not a matter of yelling fire in a crowded theatre. If anyone has been yelling "fire", I'd say it's the maladministration with its colour code du jour and its warnings of boogeymen in the night. As for responsibility, I'd say that if you think that war should only be a last resort, and that there is no need to push to war at the _earliest_ possible moment, then responsibility is _telling_ people that this is what you think. Silence in the face of evil is no virtue; in fact, there are those that say that such silence has accounded for quite a few tragedies in the course of history. Herc: I didn't know that Natalie Maines was related to Dubya, and that this was just a little internecine feud of no interest or consequence to the rest of us. Thanks for that bit of info. Cheers, -- Arne Lnagsetmo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST, herc Date: 20 Mar 03 - 12:38 PM Arne: Put another way: She must not have been "well brought up." It most certainly is of no consequence. (Goofballs burning CD's and such, well, they have their priorities mixed up, and you are welcome for the small bit of advice to keep your own aligned.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Kim C Date: 20 Mar 03 - 01:11 PM Arne, if you go and read some of my other postings on other threads, I have said that I think war is only a last resort. I agree with you that people do have a responsibility to say what they think; but I also think, sometimes the time and place are not appropriate for such. That is something I had to learn after many long years of getting in trouble because I opened my mouth at the wrong time, or said the wrong thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: DougR Date: 20 Mar 03 - 03:54 PM Aw, Kim, I'm sure you didn't do that! :>) DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo Date: 21 Mar 03 - 11:51 AM Kim: I've been fortunate enough to be able to speak my piece without getting into "trouble" (or at the least without someone else's contrary opinions getting in the way of me doing what I think should be done). I understand that many people think they need to "hold their tongue" under certain circumstances, but I still maintain that to do so is moral failure, at least when speaking out does indeed have some effect. I worry a bit that the current atmosphere will indeed slope down to the point when speaking one's mind _will_ get people in trouble. It has happened before, and I don't think it's all that far off again. Silence such as you recommend only encourages those that _would_ like to stifle all dissent (and I hate to say it, but that'd be the powers that be in Washington right now). "Watch what you say ... what you do", sez the maladministration. . . . Cheers, -- Arne Langsetmo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Kim C Date: 21 Mar 03 - 01:25 PM Arne, I recommend silence in situations where good manners and decency are important, not in life and death situations. For instance, if your lady says, "does this outfit make me look fat?" you're probably better off not saying anything. But if your best friend is obviously drinking too much, you'll want to speak up and say, hey pal, gimme the keys. I've always been amazed at news reports from people who say things like "I heard the screaming next door but I didn't want to get involved." Sure, in that instance you have a moral obligation to get your ass off the couch and call the police, or whatever you have to do. But I don't think I have a moral obligation to tell a coworker he's an asshole, even if that's what I really think. For me, as a performer, being in front of an audience requires some good manners and decency. I don't believe that Natalie Maines was trying to make a protest as much as she was trying to ingratiate herself to a foreign audience. If she truly wanted to talk about peace in our time, I think she could have done a much better job of it IF she had taken 2 seconds to think about it. A better choice of words could have been, "we don't support the course of action our country is taking." Maybe she should borrow one of Sheryl Crow's t-shirts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: GUEST,Finbar Boyle Date: 27 Apr 03 - 08:53 PM As a foreigner (Irish) I can only re-iterate what was printed on a home-made placard carried by an American Mormon here in Dublin; HE WASN'T ELECTED. HE EXECUTED CHILDREN. HE LINED HIS POCKETS. LIBERATE AMERICA. He's a moronic buffoon, but he's surrounded by criminals with a bigger agenda. Peace, please,and you who have voices in the US - nip the Fourth Reich in the bud. Finbar Boyle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Dixie Chicks Heroic Peace Band From: Beccy Date: 28 Apr 03 - 09:21 AM Hey Finbar- I for one voted for "him" and am glad he is in office. I find your obvious hatred of George Bush interesting. If you detest him so much, move over here and vote him out of office. Even you must admit that the "not elected" salvo you volleyed is debatable at best. Beccy |
