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Subject: BS: Graduation gift From: Hollowfox Date: 10 May 03 - 08:58 PM My son Kelson is graduating from High School on the first of June. I'm not sure what to get him for a graduation gift. I want it to be something he can use, not just money. I don't want to get anything as expensive as a computer. I was thinking of luggage (what I got), but a friend remarked that this was more for girls than guys. No jokes, folks. Any practical suggestions? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 May 03 - 11:33 PM When I graduated my mother gave me an Olivetti portable typewriter. That thing got me through all of my undergraduate years and a lot of others afterward. But today it would be an antique! Is he going to college? Is there something dorm- or college-related that you could give him? SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: CarolC Date: 10 May 03 - 11:44 PM A musical instrument? If he's going off to college and will be staying in a dorm, he might love a TV with VCR or DVD player attached or a dorm size refrigerator or a microwave. My son just finished his second year at college and these were items that he found himself needing. Also an answering machine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: DonMeixner Date: 11 May 03 - 12:05 AM My Mom gave me an Autoharp. What a great gift. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 11 May 03 - 12:45 AM An international collection of condoms
Trojan=USA Durex=UK Felios=Barbados etc. etc. etc.
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: NicoleC Date: 11 May 03 - 01:07 AM I'm all for practical gifts, but you haven't told us anything about him. Is he going to college? Moving away or living at home? Hobbies? Does he want something in particular that he can't afford on his fast food salary? IMO, luggage sounds like a great gift. Nothing girlie at all about it. He'd probably like it better if you left him pick it out. Going away to college I got: A suitcase An iron (a nice one -- it bit the dust two weeks ago) A clock radio (also very nice -- I still use it.) I NEEDED money for things like sheets and towels... but practical was the next best thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Neighmond Date: 11 May 03 - 02:19 AM I was perpetually in trouble in High school....my mother was so surprised and elated to see me graduate that she gave me a gold pocket watch (not a gold TONE watch, a 14k solid gold Howard, from the 1920's.) Chaz |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Hollowfox Date: 11 May 03 - 02:23 PM He's been accepted at Kent State University, about 35 miles from here. He'll be in a dorm the first year, and he'll be an art major. I was going to provide the basics for the dorm room (sheets, towels, etc); I want something that will last beyond dorm life. I'm not sure how large the rooms are, so I don't know that a refridgerator is feasable. He'll iron something if you hold a gun to his head (maybe). Thanks for the inspiration so far. I'll keep you posted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: GUEST,Susan from California Date: 11 May 03 - 02:51 PM I always give my friends kids a really good dictionary and thesaurus, so maybe a set of reference books? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Clinton Hammond Date: 11 May 03 - 03:37 PM Best thing I can think of... Get him a good pocket multi-tool like a Leatherman or something... He'll be astounded how much he uses it, and soon he won't be able to imagine life without it... Just don't waste $$ on a Swiss Army Knife... They're over-priced, and the quality (When compaired to a similarly priced Multi-tool) isn't half what it shou |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: wysiwyg Date: 11 May 03 - 04:51 PM A small certificate of deposit that matures in a year, and a manual on rational money management. Not kidding-- have a line on some great materials, "How to rent your first apartment" and "How to buy your first car" and how credit actually WORKS. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: katlaughing Date: 11 May 03 - 05:28 PM Before kids were allowed to cook in their rooms, my sisters each got a popcorn popper as they were allowed popcorn and it was also easy to warm up soup in! They also each got a very special wristwatch. What about one of those palm pilots? Keeps all of his addys, schedule etc. at his fingertips, electronically? Does he have a portable CD player, like a walkman? Nails, hammer or some other way to put things up on the wall. A nice bedspread/blanket to make it seem more homey would be nice, too. A box of small, wrapped gifts, one to be opened each week, every two weeks, or once per month. Fill them with little things which he might need, has just run out of, etc. i.e. teabags, cupasoup, pens, postage stamps, coffee mug, ruler, eraser, scotch tape, stapler, sketch pad, charcoal pencils, a new CD, paper and envelopes, candy, cash, gift certificates for fast food(!), etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 11 May 03 - 05:34 PM Fox, I gave my boys luggage when they graduated. I remember the day I bought it...one of those days when everything goes right! (I locked myself out of my car and had an extra set of keys...the luggage was on sale for half price...etc, etc. all day long. But we found out later that guys use the duffle bag type of luggage going back and forth from college. (and sturdy laundry baskets) Also, a small dorm refrigerator is useful. As far as dorm sheets, check his particular dorm, some use the extra long sheets, and they are usually hard to find later in the summer. I would talk to a college sophomore where he is going to school and find out what they have to have. For my boys it was a certain type of backpack, rubber boots for walking across campus in the rain, and a large umbrella. (but then they tend to lose the first one) Rolls of coins for dorm washers and dryers are good. A good dictionary and thesarus is a lasting gift. A friend gave my boys a book on investing and saving money. Also, a dobbs kit for traveling is a must. Just don't make too many jokes about kicking him out just yet. They tend to be a bit sensitive about things like that even though they try not to show it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: artbrooks Date: 11 May 03 - 05:41 PM Some thing for the dorm room that won't walk away would be good. My daughter's room at University of Arizona was big enough for one of those 2x2 refrigerators...its good to coordinate that with the roommate, because its probably not big enough for two of them. How about a cell phone with an account that you pay for...but set a limit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 May 03 - 12:06 AM I suspect a hammer and nails for sticking stuff up in a dorm room is frowned on as much now as it was when I was in a dorm many years ago. But they do make some pretty innovative sticky things for attaching (and neatly removing) wall stuff. Is this dorm room wired for computers? Newer dorms come that way, many older ones are being retrofitted (at least they are at the university where I work). The fridge sounds like a great idea. Having cold drinks in the room is good, but it also works fomr something like a carton of milk to go with a box of cereal he might keep in a crate with a few eating implements and utensils. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: katlaughing Date: 12 May 03 - 12:33 AM or some other way to put things up on the wall Without stating the obvious, I figured they probably got some kind of bulletin board walls, at least above their desks, where they could use pushpins, etc. For posters, school supply places have those plastic tabs with the wax on the back, though Ive had those take paint off with them. One landlord preferred that I use a hammer and picture hangers, the kind with nails, to anything else.:-) Plastic storage bins, the small, stackable kind. They really help keep the clutter down and if used will really help with organization. A mini-disc digital recorder or a good cassette recorder, the type with a good built-in mic and variable speed playback for lectures, if allowed or needed, interviews if he gets into doing anything with the newspaper, etc. flip-flops for the shower? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Clinton Hammond Date: 12 May 03 - 10:20 AM Lemme 2nd the mini-disc recorder for lectures... And a tie-clip mic... And the multi tool... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: stevetheORC Date: 12 May 03 - 11:17 AM How about some art supplies he might find them useful, If he paints/draws then watercolours/oils/pastels in a nice nice box inscribed from you to him. something that he can pack in his jacket and carry with him. De Orc |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: wysiwyg Date: 12 May 03 - 02:23 PM Graduation gift-- not something to get ready for college... something that celebrates the achievement already made. Maybe a large but very inexpensive item (stuffed magical creature) BOXED, and into the box go a pair of tickets to something he'd really like to take someone to, independent of mom's OK/ride/etc., plus a dinner-for-two gift-certificate and ALSO, maybe, a gift cert for dorm room stuff. A trip to somewhere, by himself, if he has never done that? Bus, train? A scrapbook of family photos that now belong to him, chronicling his childhood and schooling up to now? There's a rite-of-passage thing going on here that the gift should symbolize.... an increase-in-self-determination kind of thing. Going off to college-- that's also a rite of passage, but a different one. Try asking sibs and pals what he REALLY wants, and do something symbolic in that direction. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 May 03 - 03:11 PM One of the maintenance guys at the dorm where I last lived had a tube of toothpaste in his pocket, and as he checked people out of rooms at the end of the year, if there were holes left behind he filled them with toothpaste as if it were spackle. I'm sitting looking up at a bookshelf with my cornerstone of research texts. My Dad gave me a good dictionary when I started college, and it's still around here somewhere, but they need to be updated regularly. Both parents gave me the rest of these over the years. When I start looking for something I begin by reaching for one of these: Webster's Collegiate Dictionary Bartlett's Familiar Quotations Roget's Thesaurus Chicago Manual of Style (I prefer the MLA, but this might be more general) Benet's Reader's Encyclopedia The Golden Bough (normally I advocate getting cloth cover, but this paper edition will do just fine, since the cloth version is a tad pricey) Norton Anthology of Modern Poetry (the Ellman version is good, but there's a newer Ramazani and Ellman "Modern and Contemporary" version now, so I'll link to both) and the one I use the most, because having a large vocabulary is one thing and spelling it is another thing entirely, The Random House Speller/Divider (this is evidently out-of-print, is offered as used for as low as $.49, and it's worth every penny!) There are obviously other books that suit different philosophical or practical leanings, anything from Gleick's Chaos: Making a New Science to Bolles' What Color Is Your Parachute? A good set of desk reference books will be his companions long after he finishes college. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: DonMeixner Date: 12 May 03 - 03:21 PM A good simple cook book The multi-tool A first aid kit Socks and underwear A gift certificate at the Campus Book Store A subscription to one pizza a month at the local Pizza shop An AutoHarp and Hand Made Sterling Silver Jewelry. Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Clinton Hammond Date: 12 May 03 - 03:24 PM Wow... there are a lot of gifts listed here that parents would like to give kids, but very few that I can imagine a kid wanting to actually recieve... A photo album full of family picutes?? A nice bedspread/blanket??? Plastic storage bins??? Rolls of coins??? I don't wanna meet a recent highschool grad who'd wanna get any of those! They sound more like gifts you'd give an aging aunt whom you never or rarely see... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Catherine Jayne Date: 12 May 03 - 03:26 PM My 18th birthday coincided with me going to universtity and My Grandma bought me a lovely suit case...which has come in very handy and I still have it nearly 5 years on. Other things were a nice photo frame and a family portrait . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 May 03 - 04:02 PM ClintonHammond, You're right--I suppose this isn't a list of charismatic gifts, but they are practical. Though my typewriter wasn't the most exotic gift, Mom gave me my choice of things and that was what I needed. It was very useful right off the bat. I think this kind of gift giving is how we teach our children about what is important. "Commencement" isn't the end, afterall, it is the beginning. Save the frivoulous stuff for their birthday presents. Make the graduation gift an acknowledgement of what they've accomplished and an expression of your admiration by giving them something that makes the next portion of their education easier. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: NicoleC Date: 12 May 03 - 04:43 PM How big is Kent State? A good quality but plain-looking bicycle and a good lock may be very handy, and he can start using it right away so it isn't like a "going away" gift. I'd refrain from a collection of reference manuals. He will have more books than he has room for in his dorm before he knows it, and much it that is available online anyway. Which is not to say books are bad -- if he's a theater fan, the Complete Works of Shakespeare may be appropriate, or some other seminal work in his favorite field that might be in an edition he can't afford. I kind of like the pre-paid cell phone idea. It's a practical safety tool, but it's also something he'll find fun and adult. I mean, this IS a rite of passage -- maybe he should get something he identifies with as being a grownup toy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 May 03 - 05:14 PM How often do you suppose he'd use Shakespeare, when compared with how often he'd use the dictionary or thesaurus? Or add Shakespeare to the list--it is a good suggestion, but not in lieu of the others. (This is assuming he's a student who cracks any books at all!) I work in a library--it's a fallacy that you can get anything online. You can get a lot online, but it's like looking through a keyhole, there's a lot you can't see. Don't pass up the books based on the argument that something might be available online (and that list I posted is not a token gift. The full-price cost, without tax or shipping, is $308.39--if you add the cloth version of Frazer, it's $1488.39!) Textbooks come and go--fast. Some are seminal works in the field and will be held onto. Most are sold back to the bookstore at the end of the semester quickly before they're considered so out of date that you can't get anything for them. Another of the torturous lessons of college--pay $75.00 for a text and sell it back to the bookstore for $12. Too bad the gift price range doesn't include the computer. In the end, that will be the thing that he'll use the most, once he has one. A laptop is easiest, can be used anywhere, and get one with a wireless interface, because many universities and libraries are going to wireless networks. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: catspaw49 Date: 12 May 03 - 06:58 PM Geez 'Fox, you're really gettin' old ain't ya'? So let's see here...........Going over th KSU huh? What about a bullet proof vest?.........No,no,no......That would have been OUR generation.......Besides, Rhodes is dead, the National Guard is otherwise occupied, and the demonstrations seem to be mainly FOR the damn war.......yeah, skip that........ He won't be far away from you over there, but far enough........I like the luggage idea. Worked out great for me but I'd have preferred the stuff like today, the more soft-sided/duffle styles. Have you asked him what he might want to go to college with? The fridge works for me too. Berea was short on late night places to eat and one of my buddies had an electric skillet. We'd make eggs and sausage, flop some bisquits on the top and make one hell of a casserole/sausage pie affair...lots of other stuff too. I think we'd have done that even if we could have gone out. Made for some great late night bull sessions. You can make damn near anything in an electric skillet........It's a thought and not too expensive either. Do I get to tell a story here? My first roommate was a nice guy from Virginia who had never been away from home or too many places outside of his hometown. Everything he got from his Mom was a big deal to Dale, perhaps a little more than necessary. We had a large box covered with a sheet between the two desks that we used as a table of sorts. In the middle of it was the popcorn maker his Mom had given him (not a bad idea either) and ol' Dale either loved popcorn or loved using it because he made several bowls nightly. Christ, we had guys from all over the damn dorm coming in all the time for popcorn and Dale was happy to oblige. I wasn't in the room often, hanging out with different friends in other rooms. But after a few weeks of this I noticed that my clothes smelled like a movie theater! Anyway.......that ain't what the story is about. His birthday was in early October sometime and his Mom actually sent him a cake in the mail ala WWII. I wander in and he's real excited and shares a piece with me. A few other guys came in that night and the next and had a little bit. Truth be told, it was pretty sorry cake. After 4 days, there is about a third or more of it left and it's sitting on the makeshift table uncovered. No one wants anymore at this point of course, but there it sits......after a week......after ten days......after two weeks!!!! It's so dried out and crumbly that every step or the least breath of air, crumbs are falling off. Guys coming in are asking me about it! It's become a kinda' "dorm joke." "Hey man, check out the fuckin' cake in Patterson's room!!" I finally come in one evening and he has cleaned up the room, the sheet on the box has been changed, the crumbs on the floor are swept and gone..........and the cake is still sitting there! This is too much even for me. I said, "Dale, what's with the cake man? I mean it's creating one helluva' mess and even after you cleaned, it's starting to crumble already......Take a look! Why doncha' just throw it out?" Of course you know the answer already don't you? "Yeah but ya' know it's the first thing my Mom ever sent me and I sorta' hate to get rid of it." As I think about it right now, I realize that a bit of "Cletus" comes from Dale. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Clinton Hammond Date: 12 May 03 - 07:19 PM "What about a bullet proof vest?" LOL! I was gonna suggest that but even -I- thought it was in poor taste! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: catspaw49 Date: 12 May 03 - 07:29 PM Ya' know CH, by the time I got to this thread, I saw your name and thought, "Ah shit! The best line is already used!!!" Thanks for leaving it......(:<)) Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: katlaughing Date: 12 May 03 - 07:37 PM He'll have a library to go to - I'd skip too many reference books until he gets a good idea of what he needs/wants also depending on if he has any grant money which would help with purchase of same. One can also get a lot of them on CD so they don't take up so much space. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Bill D Date: 12 May 03 - 07:53 PM original post was "not as expensive as a computer"...but that is sort of almost required in schools these days...If it is at ALL possible (and he has none yet)..help him get one. I went thru this 3 years ago, and though all the other things are nice, my son wanted his PC!...and after that, **food**...(dorm food was lousy)...he did love having an MP3 player, and a good coat..(of HIS choosing...style, ya' know)...but internet access was #1..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: NicoleC Date: 12 May 03 - 08:15 PM I believe Kent State was one of the first big colleges to put high speed network connections in each dorm room -- you might check with the Student Housing office. If so, a relatively dumb and cheap computer with a good network card might work out well; again, check with Student Housing before buying anything to be sure it meets their network requirements. Having stood in multi-hour long lines just to type up a paper at the campus computer center, a computer has really become a must on campus. If you were closer, I'd give you one of our old (but not too old) ones we have collecting dust in the back. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Amos Date: 12 May 03 - 08:18 PM I hope you guys realize that a bit of major Mudcat History -- the Origins of Cletus -- has just swept past unnoticed in the maelstrom of bright ideas running through this thread. If he loves music, get him an IPod. It fully qualifies as cook and is less expensive tha a 'puter. But if he doesn't have a 'puter, find one used or on eBay or some damn thing cuz he really will want one. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: GUEST,satchel Date: 12 May 03 - 08:23 PM A good piece or two of luggage (duffel and/or roll-on and/or garment bag)will be surprisingly useful longer than most of the stuff listed above. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 May 03 - 08:33 PM Geez, no one else's suggestions have been panned. We're not talking about linear feet here, just a few books. I just measured them, 15 inches on a shelf (add 2.5 inches more for the Shakespeare option). Whats the big deal, why resist the suggestion of a gift of good books that will last a lifetime? Some schools require students to have a computer, others actually provide them. It's an amazing world students are entering these days. Spaw, that's a wonderful description of cooking with the electric skillet. For all of the high-tech devices around today, including small microwaves and convection ovens, the skillet is still by far the most versatile. A coworker many years ago, when I spent my summers in a crew house where they didn't provide cooking facilities, used to come up with some marvelous one-pot casseroles. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: NicoleC Date: 12 May 03 - 08:47 PM Sorry, SRS, it wasn't meant personally. I love good books, and I'm all in favor of them. I got a mess of 'em. I'd never pan books in general. I just didn't find stacks of all the reference books I was supposed to own particularly useful in college except rarely, and they took up a lot of room in the 7' x 12' dorm room I shared. It didn't help that we both bought a set, and most of 'em never got used even once. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't want them. On the other hand, a subscription to one of the better online reference services might be very handy. Or a set of indexed CDs. Of course, both require the computer... Meanwhile, I like having good reference books around now that I have the luxury of space. It's not fun when you move, though... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 May 03 - 10:07 PM Your very expensive tuition to a fine university buys you subscriptions to many great databases these days. The library fee is pretty large at our university. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Hollowfox Date: 13 May 03 - 02:28 PM Wow, folks! I turn my back for a minute nd the thread explodes... Well now, lets see which posts I can remember, and what expansion I can put on the information. I work in a library as well, so Kelson knows the ins and outs of the library, has the dictionary, thesarus, and other ready reference books. I see the stuff for the dorm room as stuff he'd get anyway. He already has a multitool and knows how to cook. The electric skillet sounds like a good addition to the list, though. 'Spaw, I was at KSU on MAy 4, as is my habit, and wouldn't you know, the place was slopping over with state troopers and about a dozen people were arrested an an anti-war demonstration. Kel knows where the bullet holes are. (for those not up on USA history, this is the same university where National Guard troops shot several students during an anti-war demonstration on May 4, 1970. Two of the four who died weren't even taking part in the demonstration.) I've got a lead on an affordable laptop that might just be what I've been looking for. I'll keep you posted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: GUEST Date: 13 May 03 - 11:29 PM What a brillant suggestion little LaughKat.
PopCornPopperfor soup!
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: mouldy Date: 14 May 03 - 03:03 AM Having been through the art mill myself (although many years ago), a good quality set of brushes and paint sets - of at least oils/water colours/gouache plus a very good quality set of drawing pencils (softer lead range) and colouring pencils will set him up with basic groundwork. If you feel like laying out more, a camera is always useful. Or one of those zip up display portfolios. (The previous being useless for pottery or sculpture, of course). If it's art history, then books. The laptop sounds ideal, though. On the other hand, I have recently steered 2 kids through university, with a third going in a year or so. I bought my daughter a suitcase and basic crockery/cutlery/kettle. My son, who went first, got the stuff I didn't need at home. I bought him a slow-cooker (crockpot) but he never used it. (I don't think he got much else new). My daughter refused it, so it's still in the shed for when she gets a place of her own and is out at work all day. The problem you have in dorms is that kids tend to "share" other kids food supplies from unlockable places like the fridge/freezer. My son said that if he'd used the crock he'd have come back to find the contents eaten! He wouldn't have been able to retaliate too much as he was sharing his student residency with 5 girls! Some guys have all the bad luck!...Seriously though, the "rules" state that you don't come on to your flatmates! This being the UK, they don't actually "graduate" until they leave university, usually at 21 or 22 years old. My son wheedled a cheap old car out of me so that he could have transport for work, and nearly two years later it's still going...never thought I'd say that about an 11 year old Ford in the hands of a youth! My daughter is about to graduate in pharmacy and wants a leather briefcase (feminine variety). So really it's all to do with whether you want to give something personal to celebrate the graduation from high school, or some significant contribution to uni life, bearing in mind that if it's the same as here (age laws permitting) he'll spend freshers' week in a drunken haze, and be living off pasta and anything else cheap that can be thrown onto it, after he's blown all his allowance on booze and takeaways! (This they do tend to grow out of, but it has to be got out of their systems. his downfall was vesta instant curries, and hers was the MacDonalds round the corner from hall). Bought them both student cook books, which they ignored. Both can now cook good pasta! Good luck to him, anyway Andrea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Hollowfox Date: 24 May 03 - 10:58 AM Thanks, all. I went out yesterday and bought him a laptop, actually, what's called a notebook computer in the sales fliers. Also the cable lock, the 6 month service guarantee, etc. Thank heavens for credit cards (for once). And thanks for helping me think this through. (His kitchen gear is in the attic, waiting for him to get a kitchen.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: GUEST,Titian Date: 24 May 03 - 02:40 PM Hey...I'm wid the Orc....Art Supplies!!!!!!!! T |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 24 May 03 - 05:04 PM Mary, I didn't chime in but waited with bated breath to see what you came up with, since next year I'm in the same fix. The computer the family uses is officially his, though, so we'll probably go for a major upgrade to make it acceptable for (lord willing) college! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 24 May 03 - 05:06 PM What I meant to say between my two sentences in the previous post is that I am guessing that you've come up with the best possible gift- he'll think it's great, and it will probably be what he needs for college or wherever he's bound! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: Hollowfox Date: 24 May 03 - 05:17 PM Orc, et al, I didn't do art supplies because I wanted to get something that isn't just related to school. Whether he knows it or not, he's getting his first start at adult life. The art supplies will be used up within the year, but this (Gods willing, with upgrades) will last him beyond freshman year. I'm still using yhe luggage I got all those years ago, but as I said, this didn't seem right for him. All your suggestions had good points to them, and I hope I made the right choice.. Thanks again, MomFox Mary |
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Subject: RE: BS: Graduation gift From: catspaw49 Date: 24 May 03 - 05:18 PM I dunno' 'Fox.....Maybe you ought to give him some personal treasure as well..........Hmmm..........Like, uh.............hmmmmm..........Oh hey.....What about a nail in a board maybe? Spaw |
