BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,Boab D
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 02:53 AM

My Fiancee has went from having a high BP of 150/100 to 100/70 so thats good health wise and for her also( her mother has a low bp also). After this trip away working she is going back to a normal diet. And that means that she will have lost about 7 stone 40kg in 5 months which is great as I was saying earlier. And all the benefits far outweigh the cons she is more confident in herself ,can do so much more than she could a few months ago, she now opts to walk rather than drive, she is now out of big clothes and is wearing clothes that show off her figure rather than the having the big hide under black and baggy clothes. I'm sure this will cost a fortune but hey its her happiness and if she's happy then that makes me happy.
I dont have to agree with the physiological effects of the diet that she is on and I cant say that I ever will. But it is working and she's happy what more can I ask for?
I think that it is a good way to loose weight and it is quick also. Great but I dont think that anyone can say with any certainty that it is a totally safe form of weight loss and thats the part that gets me a little jittery.
Dylan

In response to guest 3 up please see previous insert on the difference between ketosis and ketoacidosis.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 06:02 PM

Yippee indeed!

My BP has remained steady for 4 months now, before it was all over the place. I've not had a dizzy spell for 3 months, I've not fainted for 6. I've been sleeping better (until the hot weather), had more energy and better concentration.

Changing your diet for health reasons is by far the best and should be the only reason to diet.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 12:06 PM

BTW, I went to my doc. Yesterday and I'm down 20lbs since I started this diet five weeks ago. He took me off altace (blood pressure medication). Yippee, I say!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 12:00 PM

Dylan, that stuff in your medical dictionary is exactly what Atkins debunked. Further, he posited that the view held by the American Dietetic Association (remember the dietary pyramid and the food groups?) actually contributed to (if not actually caused) the explosion in obesity between 1970 and now. He made no bones about his methods flying in the face of conventional thinking, so I'm not sure reiterating that view validates it any more now than when it was first challenged.

Still, I agree that it may not be for everyone and might actually cause problems in some. I'm sure that's true of most diets, so as they always say, check with your physician before you begin any diet (and hope s/he's keeping up with current research!)

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 09:49 AM

needless to say - on Atkins diet or any low-carb diet it is perfectly possible to be 'in Ketosis' - ie: burning fat; while NOT having excessive ketones in the blood.

again - it is a normal process and the ONLY process by which the body burns fat.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 09:47 AM

I've never heard of Ketosis being used for an excess of ketones in the blood - normally that is ketoacidosis.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,Boab D
Date: 24 Jul 03 - 09:34 AM

Ketosis may be the a way of burning fat but if you look at your medical dictionary then it states that it is a condition in which ketones are in the body in excessive amounts. This = to many keytones in the blood. This is not normal or healthy in a normal human who does not suffer from a hormonal defficiancy.
When you train and do all your excersises then that is the time when your ketone level will rise an the body will excrete these or reabsorb them, depending on how it is feeling that day.
If you are not training and the body is producing these keytones all the time without the stimulation of excersise then the excretary organs ie the bowels , liver and kidneys will find it difficult to maintian a healthy balance within the systems.
Dylan

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 07:21 PM

Along that line: The survivors of the Donner Party were mostly women and female children - fat is good.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 05:19 PM

Eliza - yes, women are predisposed to storing fat. You can rebuild a population with only one or two men, but you need all the women you can get. If a woman won't last a cold winter, then she's no good for breeding! Sorry, but that's the way it is... we're all really just animals.

Like it says in the song - if you've seen more meat on a greasy spoon, she won't keep you warm, get rid of her soon....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 04:23 PM

it is impossible to get rid of ANY fat without Ketosis. How then can ketosis be a bad thing? Ketosis *is* the process by which the body turns fat into energy.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 04:22 PM

I'm going to see my doc. in half an hour. Hi scale is out of whack too! I'll let you know what transpires ... even if it's not good!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 04:16 PM

Went to the specialist, today. Happy to report that THEIR scales, the ones that always say I weigh more than the ones at home, truth be told:-), say I've lost 7lbs! She's happy, I'm happy and I've got the okay to continue with what works for me, finally!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,Boab D
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 01:04 PM

I noticed that someone else had put in that ketosis and ketoacidosis are two totally different things as I was going to go into one on that and both are bad things to have or to be in a state of.
There was a study done on the BBC about the best diet from the 4 most common ones in the UK cant remember the findings other than for men it was the atkins diet and for ladies I think it was the weight watchers diet. It also showed that it depends on the individual who is on the diet.
Dylan

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: mg
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 10:48 AM

read Dr. Schwartzbien's books about diabetes...follow her diet if you prefer..it is pretty similar and she is a diabetic doctor.

If there is one source of medical malpractice in the world, it is what doctors, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, advice diabetics to eat and not eat. Cut out the refined carbohydrate junk at least, and don't overdo fruits...they are nutritious sugar but still sugar.mg

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 01:25 AM

Mag said:

then I saw my doctor yesterday and she said absolutely not; this diet has way too much protein for a diabetic; can cause kidney damage.


My friend is on Atkins' for weight loss. She works; her husband is retired, and he agreed to cook Atkins meals. She has been losing steadily, and her energy level is up. But what is more amazing -- the retired husband is diabetic (adult onset), and in the first month of Atkins, his sugar level decreased dramatically. They've been on it for four months now, and his sugar level has continued to decrease to the point that his medication has been altered.

I wouldn't tell that story about just one person, as one person's experience is not indicative. But the man I described belongs to a diabetic support group, and most of them have reported the same results.

If I were you, I would check other sources, Mag -- your doctor may be out of date. Yes, you have to watch your kidneys, as I did, but the diabetes results I've heard about here have been all very positive.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: MAG
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 11:48 PM

I tried it for a week and lost 4 pounds. This was a great mental lift for me; I'm really tired of being fat.

then I saw my doctor yesterday and she said absolutely not; this diet has way too much protein for a diabetic; can cause kidney damage.

I really didn't think I was increasing the protein taht much, just cutting out all the crap I'm not supposed to eat anyway.

I read the diet website stuff and it made a lot of sense to me; I've been hypoglycemic all my life and without the crap my blood sugars are a lot more even.

I'm in a quandary now. My friend Jory is doing great on this diet, and a fellow at work has lost a hundred pounds.

If I drink all the water religiously I may keep on it, modified.

summer where I live is not the time to give up fruit. It is a fruit lover's paradise: strawberries, blueberries, peaches ... especially peaches. The one not on the diet. (sigh.)

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Gypsy
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 11:16 PM

it IS slower for women...........men, as a rule, have higher metabolisms that help them to lose weight faster. And if you are middle aged (like me) it will be even slower. But worth it. I love having energy again, and not feeling like someone beat me in my sleep. And i love not constantly having to eat. Not the diet for everyone (including the handsome mando player in my life) but it sure works for me.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: MMario
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 09:33 PM

well - Ilost 10 inches off my waist in the first year - things have been very slow since then - but heck, took me forty years to put it all on - why should it come off quickly?

But I can say that with low-carb I've kept the weight off - and *THAT* alone would be worth it - but in addition I don't get cravings, and I don't feel hungry.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,eliza C
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 06:10 PM

So many of my male friends that have done it have looked incredible after only a short time on it. Wonder why it works better for men? Is it that women are just supposed to store fat or what?

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 04:34 PM

Eliza - thought you looked better on your latest album cover, good for you!

If you think about it, as human animals we were designed to eat and use effectively, meat, nuts, seeds, leaves, roots and fruits. It's only the last 2-3 millenia that we have started to process our foods, and so far our evolution hasn't caught up with it. Atkins takes you right back to the caveman diet, with the odd 'modern' additive like cheese, a diet where we used our energy but didn't have so much to store. What we store now is so much sugar that we never had, the processed grains that would have passed through our systems practically undigested (seen sweetcorn?).

I would suggest that that is one of the reasons I've had so much more energy this year, and why I've even contemplated walking to the station instead of taking the bus! I've even taken up serious singing again and stunned myself that after a year doing nothing, can still reach my normal range with room to spare at each end. I'd go so far as to say that Atkins is a singers' diet!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 02:44 PM

ketoacidosis and ketosis are two radically different states. (Though many people confuse them) KETOSIS is the process of using fat rather then carbohydrates for energy production.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 02:34 PM

I thought the whole basis of the Atkins diet was to get the body into a state of ketosis -- during which period the body uses proteins rather than carbohydrates which cause the insulin imbalance that sets the whole weight-gain rollercoaster going. I've read lots of comments about how this and that aspect of the diet is 'bad' but I respect the science behind the Doctor's thinking. And, as they say, the proof is in the pudding. I'm doing OK on this diet, although it may not be for some.

Guest eliza c ... I thought my voice had deteriorated because of my age (I'm staring at 50!) but my wife (choral teacher) says it's more to do with being overweight, so your Dad can look forward to further improvements! Anyway, good luck to all those who share the struggle.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,eliza C
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 09:56 AM

hello,
The Waterson:Carthy family together have so far lost a combined 4 and a half stone on the Atkins diet, and still going strong!
Feels great. I am totally convinced of its safety too, otherwise we wouldn't have tried it. It is the only thing that has ever worked for me and it's the light at the end of a 5-year tunnel, steroids being the main cause of weight gain. My Dad says his singing voice has lost all of its uncomfortable problems as well, and he feels like he could sing anything. Wonder what that is down to? Apart from having twenty less pounds for his lungs to fight off with each breath...?
That man should be enjoying Heaven right now if there is any justice in the world! God Bless him!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 09:12 AM

High levels of ketones with acidity in the blood is called ketoacidosis. The excess acidity in the blood is dangerous to the whole body. . The body can control blood acidity up to a point, but too much acid overcomes this and the acidity rises. The result is vomiting, loss of water and minerals (sodium and potassium) and a major biochemical upset in the body. Ketoacidosis is a medical emergency needing urgent hospital treatment.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,Boab D
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 04:36 AM

Hello again well for me in my opinion ketosis no matter what is a state of which the body should not ever be in unless you suffer from diabetis. It can have adverse effects on the liver as well as the kidneys with enough toxic waste floating around to damage both these organs. Ketosis can also cause fatigue and from first hand experience I can say it does, constapation well thats another factor that comes into it as well as my fiancee is lucky if she goes once a week. Side effects that she has had is obviously irritibility and I mean very irritable shouting and swearing, headaches general malaise absence of libido (I really didnt like that one), and an overwhelming urge to pass fluids all the time.
         The body is not used to and should never be used to living like this. For me it's just one of the things that go with having a fiancee and it has done her really good she looks great and maybe a little better than before but she is still thelassie that I fell in love with no matter what her size shape of appearance.
Dylan

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 02:09 AM

Ketosis is bad if it is not carefully controlled. It also gives a peculiar odour to the breath, which although not as unpleasant as the bacteria caused 'bad breath', is still not nice. Sometimes, as with diabetes sufferers, ketosis rampages out of control.

Sometimes with the Atkins method, there is an odour present that is caused by fungal overgrowths. The normal flora in the gut are disrupted and the one that causes thrush can get out of hand. If the ketosis is carefully managed, it should not be a problem. It does state quite clearly in the book, more than once, and sometimes more than once a chapter, that you must keep checking with your GP if you already suffer from chronic illnesses, like diabetes, asthma, heart conditions etc.

Whilst losing excess weight has to be good in the short term, it's easy to get carried away and continue with Induction (although it is safe for most people to do so for a little longer) much longer than advised. When you see pounds melting away with little or no effort, no weighing or counting calories, no crispbreads or tasteless protein drinks, then it is very very easy to slip into overkill.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 12:51 AM

Big PINK One

My mother, a diabetic, was in a state of ketosis before she slipped into a six month coma, end in death. The acyaon coming off her unconcious breath convinced the paramedics that the problem was alcoholism.

Ketosis is NOT a normal state for a fully functioning human body.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 12:53 PM

GUESTBoab D:

the diet its self as it puts your body in to a state of ketosis and thats bad

Why is that bad?

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 12:24 PM

Always nice to shed a little light on the darkness:

Excerpt from: Sandy Stewart author of The Truth About Obesity," a series on http://www.techcentrlstation.com

"…in repeated clinical studies researchers have found no meaningful difference in how many calories or the types of foods fat people ear compared with thinner people. That's counterintuitive, but true."

"The Healthy Easting Index – the report card on how American eat, compiled by the U.S. Department of Agriculture - found in 1998 that hose with ideal Hollywood figures at a similar number of calories as those considered obese."

"In fact, multiple studies have found that women who dutifully watch what they eat and are dainty eaters, or who diet, actually weigh more than those who don't restrict their food intake. In a 1990 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, women controlling their eating had slowed their metabolisms down to where they were eating 620 fewer calories a day than their more slender but unrestrained eating friends."

"The adage "diets don't work" is more accurately "diets make you fatter." The overwhelming body of scientific research has shown with striking consistency that less than 3% of weight loss is maintained over the long term."

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,Boab D
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 09:33 AM

Well done.

Just a wee or a big note on the subject though
My Fiancee has just lost 6 stone in 126 days on the Lighter life Diet. This is a diet that says well you can have these three shakes and thats all you are allowed to have. With a minumum of four litres of water per day. This was the bain of my life for the first two months when I couldn't even eat in the same room as her with out her biting my heead off. This however has eased and she now cooks some things for me which is nice. The plan has to be approved by her doctor and it means getting check ups once a month for BP pulse and all the usuall stuff. So I am really proud of her for it.
    Not that I'm really keen on the diet its self as it puts your body in to a state of ketosis and thats bad but hy the doctors are happy with it so let her get on with it. Her brother Father and her have lost a family fortune total of
14 stone between the three of them in 4 months. No side effects apart from that feeling of starvation which apparently eases after the first 2 months. I have never had to worry about diet thankfully and I can appreciate how hard it can be on the individual. so keep up the good work and well done.
Dylan

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Gypsy
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 11:54 PM

At a loss of 25 lbs now, and thinking about another 10. Mebbe. Sure was nice to put on that bodice for Stafford Faire, and be able to breathe. A note on triglycerides..........friend went on diet and the before was was something like 400....scary. Three weeks into it, was at 60. Doctor wants to know what kind of miracle occurred.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 11:13 PM

That's good, LtS!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 06:25 PM

Kat - my fat intake is actually quite low. I don't eat cheese very often, I cut all the fat off my meat (except bacon where it's burnt to buggery anyway) and my cholesterol levels have never been a problem.

My symptoms of the other problem I have with my heart have decreased significantly over the last 4-5 months too.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 01:35 PM

Glad to hear it, pdc, thanks!

LtS, I wouldn't want to bank on healthy arteries with all of that fat, losing weight or not.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 01:16 PM

Now if I can only work out which bit of the breakfast I get at work is upsetting my tum, I'll be happy - and so will my manager!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 10:50 PM

I've been on Atkins for about 3 months now -- 17 pounds gone, and another 8 to go. This note is to thank Katlaughing for the warning about kidneys -- I have chronic kidneystone attacks (no fun), and on the third week of induction, noticed the familiar twinge that I get when things are starting to go wrong. Checked with my doctor, he put me into the second stage of Atkins (the one that follows Induction), and although my weight loss slowed a bit, it continued, and the kidney problem stopped completely.

So yay. Let's all say it together:

Less is more!!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Helen
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 09:07 PM

I slipped on those wagon steps 3 weeks ago when I went on hols, but I am back on it now. I did lose 7 lbs in the few weeks I was seriously on the Atkins diet, which is no mean feat for me, because over the last couple of decades once the weight was on it was on for life, or so it seemed.

The food choices suit me as well. I'm happy with higher protein than lots of white carbohydrates - rice, flour, pasta, bread, spuds - but I do miss spuds a bit. And I never gave up chocolate - never have, never will, although I prefer the dark bitter chocolate to the sugary dairy-milk stuff anyway, so I thought I was still within the guidelines (grin).

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 10:56 AM

Hi Liz. It's McKnees, Heather's (Duckboots) Glasgow Constabule sister, and I hope I ain't in trouble....but she seems so pleased when I talk to her on the phone. She's tried everything in the universe, and was despondent when she was here a few months ago. This Atkins thing has fit like a glove and she seems sooooo happy.....nine months, almost a hundred pounds seems pretty good to me. It's for life she says and not hard to stay on.

I'm very proud of her.

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 03:25 AM

Although having said that about being chocolate obsessed - I've lost a whole 7 inches from my arse, so whoever started that thread about me having a fat arse? - it ain't so fat now matey!!!

I still retain my hourglass figure, just there's a little less sand in the bottom than there was!

I don't care - I've never shed so much weight and felt so good doing it. I've also never seriously stuck to an eating regime like I have this one, so eating bacon, strawberries and cream, steaks, chicken breasts and asparagus is no bad thing for me.

My target of 28lbs is only 7lbs away.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Jul 03 - 03:25 PM

If I give her a name can she lose a person for me too?

Seriously, that's got to be good - but you don't tell us how she's feeling, any chance of a status report?

Step to the wagon - presumably all wagons have steps to get on them with, just so happens that the one I was stepping up got a little slippery, that's all.... Just a little bit... sort of thing that could happen to any chocolate obsessed person....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 11:32 PM

Wow, Rick, that is wonderful!!

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 07:59 PM

Just got a message from my "relative' (she still doesn't know this thread is here)
She's at 98 lbs now. Despite a couple of slip ups (Atkins is very forgiving) she's now lost a whole person in less than a year.

Rick

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 06:13 PM

Thanks and congratulations, LtS! step to the wagon?

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 06:11 PM

Good for you!!!

I'm down by a stone and a half (21lbs approx) and still feeling good although the step to the wagon has become a little slippery recently.

Only another 7-10 lbs to go before the target weight and 5 weeks to do it in.

Kat, I'm glad you've found something you can work with.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jul 03 - 05:57 PM

Having gotten the okay for more protein than I was doing from the specialist who recommended the book "A week in the Zone," I just thought I'd tell you all that I think I've found a happy balance between the carbs-protein-fat thing which works for me and I feel better about it than doing Atkins, mainly because this guy emphasises low-fat protein, monounsaturated fats and "good" carbs.

Basically, it's getting the ratio of the three right for each meal and he makes it really simple. If you look at this page it explains the "eyeball" method of figuring out the right amounts. AND, there are LOTS of good things for vegetarians to use. That official website has searchable recipes, cookbooks, etc.

The best thing about it is that I've lost 3.5-4 lbs in the past two weeks and I've been eating the foods that I really love. It has been really easy!

He apparently has several books out about it, but it looks to me as though the website does a good job of giving the basics, then adding more if you are interested. The book that I did use, named above, does start you out on a lower ratio: each meal consisting of 10 grams good fat, 20g. low-fat protein, and 30g+ good carbs, but I've been using the eyeball method, so haven't stuck to those on a strict basis anyway and it's still works.

Anyway, FWIW...

thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 05:09 PM

that would be an organic lettuce then....!! *BG*

I'm down by 18lbs now since March and feeling a great deal better all round.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 12:25 PM

Thanks, irishajo...I think I am looking for the impossible, lo-fat,lo-carb, lo-protein, lo-salt, lo-natural and no artifical sugars!:-) Not much left that I can figure.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,irishajo
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 12:00 PM

If I remember correctly, katlaughing, there really wasn't an emphasis on what you should eat, just what you shouldn't. Eat anything you want except carbs. One hour of the day you can eat any carbs you want. There was an emphasis on fake sugars, which I hate. Theoretically once you overcome the carb addiction your appetite should naturally gravitate toward healthier foods. I could be misremembering the details though, it's been a long time.

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 11:44 AM

Does the carb-addict's diet rely heavily on protein? Also, how is the fat content in it, if anyone knows?

Subject: RE: BS: 76lbs, Dr. Atkins, congrats
From: GUEST,irishajo
Date: 09 Jun 03 - 07:40 AM

Ed, I tried the Carb Addict's diet a few years ago. I certainly did not succeed...but I'm stubborn that way. Hopefully your friend will have better luck.

There were some bread recipes in the back of the book that were very easy to make...seemed mostly to consist of cottage cheese and eggs. They didn't taste good to me, though. One thing I did make that wasn't bad was a cheese flan.

Didn't last long enough on the diet to try anything else...