Subject: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Fiolar Date: 16 Aug 03 - 06:04 AM So the monster who was responsible for over 100,000 deaths during his time as dictator of Uganda has finally shuffled of this mortal coil. Age 78, he spent the time since he fled from his country in luxury in Saudi Arabia without paying any penalty for his crimes. Difficult to think of anything good to say other than to quote Shakespeare's immortal words - "nothing in his life became him like the leaving it." |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: alanabit Date: 16 Aug 03 - 06:09 AM That's real life, isn't it Fiolar? The innocent get punished and the guilty walk free. It's probably why fiction (in which the opposite happens) is so popular. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Gurney Date: 16 Aug 03 - 06:49 AM Too late by 79 years. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: John MacKenzie Date: 16 Aug 03 - 07:26 AM Up here in Scotland we are of course devastated, by the death of this self declared King of Scotland. There are no words to describe the sight of Idi(ot) wearing the kilt. I hereby declare a 5 milliseconds period of mourning. Giok |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Aug 03 - 07:53 AM He also played the accordion. I remember hearing him in a radio item. He didn't play it very well, but I don't think anyone ever told him that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Little Robyn Date: 16 Aug 03 - 08:21 AM Does anyone remember the words of his song - from the late 70s? Idi, Idi, Idi Amin...... |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: The Walrus Date: 16 Aug 03 - 09:32 AM So Amin id dead. I think I can honestly say, that's no great loss to the World. Adolf, Joe and Pol Pot have company in Hell. Good riddence. Walrus |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: alanabit Date: 16 Aug 03 - 10:12 AM There was a song by Roaring Jelly. I wrote an appalling calypso about the beast, which mercifully, has long since been discarded. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Leo Condie Date: 16 Aug 03 - 11:08 AM know what i idi amin? |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST Date: 16 Aug 03 - 03:30 PM I heard the KKK gave him twin pearl handled Colt .45's and ten thousand rounds of ammo. "Cause anyone who can kill 10,000 niggers with a sledgehammer cant be all bad" Good riddance to bad rubbish! |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Amergin Date: 16 Aug 03 - 04:55 PM excuse me if i don't shed a tear |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Mrrzy Date: 16 Aug 03 - 05:24 PM Idi, Idi, Idi Amin, the most amazing man the world has seen, he the general the president the king of the scene, Idi, Idi, Idi Amin is the only part of the song I remember. Somehow, since I grew up in West Africa, this one never seemed as bad to me as Bokassa, who ate that 5th grade class while I was in school...much more impressive to an American child, I think... not that I'm sorry this one's dead, mind you. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Little Robyn Date: 16 Aug 03 - 07:23 PM That's the one Mrrzy. Thanks. I couldn't remember that much. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 16 Aug 03 - 07:48 PM Amazing Individual!
Never paid any attention to him until John Bird's hilarious recording , The Collected Broadcasts of Idi Amin was played on the Dr. Demento radio program: Idi! Idi! Idi Amin!
In the script AK47 go off in the background and he eventualy sends his political cabinet to the planet Pluto.
Trained by Israel's military and then turning against the Jews who train him, Amin was a shining crescent for Lybia and the Arab World. When he gave a speech at the United Nations in 1975, calling for the annihilation of the State of Israel, he received a standing ovation. Rumor says that he practiced cannibalism and when one of his wives angered him...her corpse was returned to her family with the arms and legs surgically interchangded. In exhile in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, he was the personal guest of Prince Abdullah.
Anyone have a copy of Mr. Bird's lyrics?
Sincerely, |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Rapparee Date: 16 Aug 03 - 07:54 PM "Every man's death diminishes me." Sorry, John. Not this time. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Aug 03 - 07:57 PM As John Kirkpatrick sings "Here's your accordion, welcome to hell..." |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Gurney Date: 17 Aug 03 - 04:30 AM Yep, still have John Bird's LP. Seeing Robyn surely at the AFF, and if anyone else wants any words I'll do my best. Chris. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,Messenger Date: 17 Aug 03 - 01:18 PM Death comes to all, the great and the small, the strong and the meek, the brave and the weak. It is in their passing that they find the absolute equality which they denied in Life. Spirit knows no prejudice, but only this: Cause and Effect. What will it profit a man to win the World if he loses his soul? But if he has no knowledge of soul then he may grasp greedily for the World with hands that must in the end fail him. Leaders are meant to serve. The greater the leadership the greater the opportunity for service. A leader who does not serve has squandered his opportunity, and his record of abuse stands as a dire warning to those who would follow. Do not seek leadership unless you have a great desire to render service and to do no harm. Everything you have done returns to you, like a ball thrown against a wall....the only question is: when and in what form? And will you recognize it when it does or will you stumble on, cursing God, men, and ill fortune for what you yourself, and only you, have wrought? |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: kendall Date: 17 Aug 03 - 02:01 PM It's omly the beginning for this evil bastard. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 17 Aug 03 - 02:01 PM Words would be nice.
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Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Cluin Date: 17 Aug 03 - 08:46 PM Let the rotting in hell begin. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: annamill Date: 17 Aug 03 - 09:46 PM Gee, this news just breaks my heart! HAHAHAHAHAHAhAHA! He'll be missed...NOT!! Annamill |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: bflat Date: 17 Aug 03 - 10:49 PM Not soon enough! Ellen |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 17 Aug 03 - 11:06 PM Let Idi Amin's life story be a lesson to all parents. Don't give your kids funny names! Way back in the third grade his classmates probably made up a rhyme that went, "Idi, Idi, Idi, has a eedy-beedy peedy!" He spent his whole life until he went into exile seeking revenge for that childhood humiliation. He may have turned out okay if his name had been "George". |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Wincing Devil Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:08 AM Does no one mourn for this man?
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Subject: A positive comment! From: Steve Parkes Date: 18 Aug 03 - 03:53 AM I had one or two good friends who were Ugandan Asians who'd been kicked out by Amin. That means I benefitted from his actions, even though they didn't. Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: kendall Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:19 AM If you believe in the after life, he will get his.Any suggestions? How about he comes back as an AIDS patient? A blind AIDS patient? |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,T-boy Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:19 AM It's amazing to think that at first he was regarded as something of a knight in shining armour when he succeeded Milton Obote (who must have been pretty dreadful). Of course, Obote then succeeded Amin in turn. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,Strollin' Johnny Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:33 AM What's the difference between Amin and the Hussein Brothers? Why are we glad to see the back of him yet many Mudcatters wailed and beat their breasts at the deaths of Uday and Qusay? Is it called double-standards? |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Aug 03 - 10:22 AM I think, if you will check back on that thread Johnny Lad, you will find that the objections were to the fact that a fourteen year old child was killed in the process, that the killing neatly avoided any possibility of putting the brothers on trial. And that what appeared to have been a botched operation was being presented as a triumph. Of course in the case of Idi Amin there wasn't any problem in avoiding an embarrassing trial, since the Saudi government was happy to give him a safe refuge where he could live out his life in luxury. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: LadyJean Date: 18 Aug 03 - 07:26 PM I don't like to admit it, but I do remember Eddie Murphy's Idi V.D. Amin routines on "Saturday Night Live". Does anyone know what the fat bastard died of? Tertiary syphillis would be nice, ditto hemmerroids, lung cancer, delerium tremens, or something that required hourly enemas. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,Strollin' Johnny Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:32 AM Thankyou McGrath, I appreciate your explanation (honestly!). But wasn't the fourteen-year-old 'child' (not quite a child really, more a young man, but I take your point) also firing a high-velocity weapon at the troops who had them surrounded? I might have that wrong but I'm sure I saw it reported that way at the time. If so, surely it kinda takes away the automatic assumption of innocence, and thus the automatic right to protection, that a child would normally be entitled to? Not altogether sure myself, but I lean slightly towards that conviction. With regard to the possibility of a trial, it's unfortunately the case that, even if they were tried and found guilty, they wouldn't have suffered the fate they deserved. They'd just have been locked away in some high-tec,high-security nick somewhere, at an astronomical cost to the taxpayer (on top of the obscene amounts of money lavished on the removal of them and their father already). I agree there's a good feeling goes with proving their guilt, and we won't have that, but at least they're out of the way for good now. And thanks for the 'Lad' - haven't been called that for years! Nice One! Johnny |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: GUEST,Dark Candy Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:20 PM I am not ashamed to say i was a staunch supporter of idi amins regime i am very happy that he was one ruler that stood up to the imperealist rulers and did not kiss their butts.the only reasons people in the west hate on this guy is because he is one guy that new well that he was not kunta kinte and there was nno way he was gonna say yesa masa to any oppressive imperialist bastard. I\ am glad that there is a nigger out there that came from my hometown that knew if any thing it was the imperialists turn to bow down to him and im glad from that example he set may be in white dominated countries he is not a hero but in africa people look atwhat he did and respect the fact that he showed everyone that you dont need to be bowing down to no white man to get what u want. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: ced2 Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:31 PM I suppose Idi will now be able to award himself the one honour that he could never do when whe was alive, i.e. the Posthumous Victoria Cross. Good riddance to bad Rubbish. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Peace Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:40 PM |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Les from Hull Date: 17 Mar 04 - 03:42 PM Actually I think that the reason why many people in the West hated him was because he was a racist murderer, suspected of torturing and mudering 300,000 people, mainly members of the Lango and Acholi peoples. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:12 PM Trolling, GUEST? |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Peace Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:53 PM That piece of shite should have received a fifty-cent headache years ago. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Peace Date: 17 Mar 04 - 05:38 PM That piece of shite should have received a fifty-cent headache years ago. He dined on people he didn't like--as in ate them. GUEST Dark Candy: I agree that he told the imperialists to eff off while he amassed a personal fortune, but I object to your use of the word 'nigger'. And I don't give a rat's ass what colour YOU are. It's nice to see that you read "Roots" or watched the mini-series, but saying you find admirable qualities in a person like Amin is like those miserable people who say shit like, "Well, Hitler brought prosperity to Germany" as though something like that (which is false) could excuse his other policies and behaviour. What a load of crap! |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 04 - 06:27 PM "General Amin...sets an example of self-restraint." (London Daily Telegraph, January, 1971) "A thoroughly nice man...[Amin] was as gentle as a lamb." (London Daily Mirror, January, 1971) "One feels that Uganda cannot afford General Amin's warm-hearted generosity." (The Times, 1972) "As conqueror of the British Empire, I am prepared to die in defense of the motherland, Uganda." (Idi Amin, April, 1979, just before fleeing to Libya) |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Phot Date: 17 Mar 04 - 06:34 PM I want to state somthing proufound and preicse, but I can't, words are not enough to pour scorn upon those who kill, torture, perecute, and, humilliate their fellow man for their own idealisam. Sometimes I am ashamed to be human. Chris |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Bill D Date: 17 Mar 04 - 07:04 PM a bunch of misspelled, run-on sentences from a total idiot whose idea of manhood and virtue is nothing but tribal BS...why answer him? |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Mar 04 - 07:04 PM Come on, guys, read the open code within the post--this thread was dug up by a troll trying to get your goat. The narrator (writer of the post) is unreliable, he isn't what he says he is. Don't fall for this nonsense. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: Peace Date: 18 Mar 04 - 01:06 AM Bill D and SRS: Yeah, you're right. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: flattop Date: 18 Mar 04 - 02:33 AM Perhaps a good time to remember the amazing people in Africa like Mandella and Tutu, and less known African folk too. They seem to have a bright way of talking and singing in face of adversity that we lack in our TV-programmed lives. |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: mooman Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:51 AM No problem Garg! They were written by Alan Coren, one time editor of Punch maagzine and then recorded by John Bird on the "Collected Broadcast" LP you mention (which is still available on CD and which I can recommend!). Here's a link to the Collected Bulletins of Idi Amin Peace moo |
Subject: RE: BS: Obituary - Idi Amin From: mooman Date: 18 Mar 04 - 04:54 AM P.S. I have good Ugandan Asian friends kicked out by him too. He was a total and brutal dictator and I do not regret his demise. Peace moo |