BS: in God he trust?

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 08:27 PM

As far as I can see, knowlege of the Bible only necessary for the position of preacher, minister, priest, or nun

...oops. And in the case of the Old Testament, Rabbi and Cantor.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 06:40 PM

I can understand how some religious people might be offended by his use of "God" sprinkled throughout his everyday speech.

But I would like to know why it is necessary for someone to have any knowlege of the Bible whatever in order to be a perfectly good president. As far as I can see, knowlege of the Bible only necessary for the position of preacher, minister, priest, or nun.

How did that man ever get through medical school!?

Are you saying that a Buddhist, for instance, would not have the skills or intelligence needed in order to get through medical school?

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 06:34 PM

I just did a Google search for the phrase "Noah strikes a match inside the whale" (in quotes) and I found several references to Christopher Buckley's article, but I also found the quote being posted to several discussion forums (like Mudcat) WITHOUT attributing it to Buckley. Looks like this is a joke that is getting out of hand—people are repeating it as if it's true.

I would like to call attention to the following:

1. Christopher Buckley is a humorist.

2. Christopher Buckley is a conservative. I suppose he is the conservatives' nearest equivalent to Al Franken. He likes to make fun of liberals. He is the son of William F. Buckley.

3. It should be noted that the only quote for which a source is cited is the first one: "In a shift, Howard Dean says he will mention God more often in his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination." --New York Times, Jan. 4
Buckley doesn't cite any source for the other quotes because he made them up!
Case closed.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 06:10 PM

I don't believe any of those are authentic quotes. They're funny, though.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:35 PM

But surely that was the joke? Treating Disney's Pinocchio as part of the modern day New Testament.

Still, if he was being a touch ironical, I imagine that is a pretty serious mistake for anyone running for President of the USA. And if he wasn't, he was being pretty thick. So either way he loses.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: GUEST,MisMatched
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:24 PM

Mark,

man, I am glad we got you "bliblekill" skolars on mudcat to keep us heathern' strayt.

We get um frum the funnie books.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:01 PM

Too funny!

Yes, the match and fire was Gepetto (not Pinocchio) from Disney's version of the Pinocchio story.

Yes, it was Johah who was swallowed by a “great fish.”

No, it isn't the New Testament, it's in the Old Testament in—of all places—the Book of Jonah!

Where do we get these guys?

      - Mark

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 11:36 AM

What's wrong with that joke, Sinsull? It's not fall-down-laughing funny, but it seems quite a pleasant thing to say, with a light touch. An ice-breaking remark.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: GUEST,MisMatched
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 11:03 AM

jeffp,

It was the cricket and the saw-dust brained puppet (that sounds like Mr. Bush Jr.). I think it was also Monstro the whale?

I wonder if the 1940 version on VHS tape or DVD of 'Pinocchio' is available? Last time I checked it was out of print. I would like to purchase a copy. You guys brought back old childhood memories!

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 10:14 AM

"God it's cold in Maine this time of year. But that's what makes this such a great state--your ability to be cold and go on functioning."

Nobody could be that dense!


Except maybe bush JR.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 09:37 AM

Dean comes across pretty well from those - sense of cheeky humour, especially when it comes to classifying Pinocchio as part of The New Testament.

Pretty clear he hasn't a chance in hell of getting the nomination. Not pompous enough.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: jeffp
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 09:27 AM

Wasn't it Pinocchio and Jiminy Cricket who built the fire inside the whale?

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: GUEST,MisMatched
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:24 AM

Mr. Dean said Noah. I think that is why his quote above is so especially bizarre. Mr. Dean probably never sang songs in Sundee Skool like I did:

"Who Built the Ark, Noah, Noah! Who Built the Ark, Brother Noah Built The Ark."

And

"Who did, who did, ... Who did swallow Jo, Jo, Jo, Jo...
Whale Did... swallow Jonah down."

How did that man ever get through medical school!?

MisMatched

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Feb 04 - 12:06 AM

Um... it was Jonah, not Noah, in the whale, wasn't it, matches or not?

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 12:48 PM

Call me picky, picky but isn't a Dean religious office in a Universtity?

As someone (mnyone) said and it may have been Will Rogers

In God we trust - everyone else pays cash.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: GUEST,MisMatched
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 10:47 AM

Did Dean really say that?

Wuz that Noah feller swallered by that well afore 577 AD?   

"Matches: China, Sixth Century AD. The first version of the match was invented in 577 AD by impoverished court ladies during a military siege. Hard pressed for tinder during the siege, they could otherwise not start fires for cooking, heating, etc. The matches consisted of little sticks of pinewood impregnated with sulfur. There is no evidence of matches in Europe before 1530."

Dean can't hold a light (or match) to Bush's 'in God he trust' language as a "borned" again Christian.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 10:17 AM

no...MATCHless!

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 09:21 AM

"God knows I'm no theologian, but I preferred the original New Testament version, where Noah strikes a match inside the whale and builds a fire and it coughs him out onto the island. It's a powerful message about man being able to control his own destiny."


Priceless!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: dianavan
Date: 08 Feb 04 - 02:53 AM

Oh God. Is this the best the God damned U.S. can do to try to defeat Bush? Its God awful when an educated man speaks like that in public. God bless the guy for trying to sound like a common man. I swear to God, I remember when I voted for the first time. I was standing in the polling booth mumbling, "God knows I waited a long time to be able to cast my ballot and the choice is no choice at all!" God, I was young but somehow I don't think U.S. politics has changed very much.

God and Mary protect us.

d

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: LadyJean
Date: 07 Feb 04 - 11:38 PM

My ancestors got kicked out of France for being the wrong kind of Christians. They became Irish, which was self improvement. But still and all, I get very nervous when a politicial waxes religious. I wish Dean would say that he wants to be president of a nation where every citizen may call her soul her own.

Subject: RE: BS: in God he trust?
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Feb 04 - 10:21 PM

uh, ya ever listen to the Nixon tapes...?

Subject: BS: in God he trust?
From: tar_heel
Date: 07 Feb 04 - 10:14 PM

This guy needs some serious language management....geesh






       In God He Trusts

         Howard Dean searches for the Almighty--and we search for both of them.

       OpinionJournal.com
       BY CHRISTOPHER BUCKLEY
       Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:01 a.m.

       "In a shift, Howard Dean says he will mention God more often in his
       campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination."

       --New York Times, Jan. 4

       Your Google Search for "Howard Dean" and "God" resulted in 49,201 matches.

       "God, it's great to be here with you in Iowa."

       "I think I have some pretty goddamned good ideas on how to fix the
       economy."

       "God, I love Florida."

       "I swear to God, if I didn't live in Vermont, I'd live here in New
       Hampshire. What a fantastic state you have here."

       "God, I wish I got to spend more time in South Carolina."

       "There are times, as a physician, when there's a temptation to think of yourself as God, like when you have to tell a patient, 'That toe's gotta go.' You have to watch yourself."

       "No, I'm not gonna unseal my record as governor. It's none of your
       goddamn business, anyway."

       "In college, I saw this play, 'Waiting for Godot," about two homeless
       people waiting for Republican trickle-down economics to reach them. It made a profound impression on me."

       "You got more corn than God here in Iowa."

       "Another pancake? God no, I couldn't, thank you, I'm stuffed, I can't
       breathe. But I've always said that the best pancakes in the country are the ones in New Hampshire. Though I think we make pretty good maple syrup in Vermont."

       "God knows I'm no theologian, but I preferred the original New Testament version, where Noah strikes a match inside the whale and builds a fire and it coughs him out onto the island. It's a powerful message about man being able to control his own destiny."
       (MAN, did he blow this one!!!)

       "Some days on the campaign trail, you wake up and you say to yourself, 'God, where am I?' You look out the motel window and you see all this corn, so you think, 'Must be Iowa.' Then some staffer comes in and tells you it's South Carolina, where they also grow corn, indeed, very good corn, only not in the same quantities."

       "God it's cold in Maine this time of year. But that's what makes this
       such a great state--your ability to be cold and go on functioning."

       "Rhode Island may not be the biggest state in the country, but every
       time I'm here I think, 'This is just God's little acre."

       "It's great to be in Boston, where as the saying goes, the Cabots speak only to the Kerrys, and the Kerrys speak only to God."

       "As a physician, there were, God knows, many times I had to stick my fingers into someone's mouth the way they did with Saddam. It's never enjoyable, in fact, it's often downright unpleasant. But you do it because it's your job."

       "Not likeable? I think I'm extremely likeable. Hey, goddamnit--look at
       me when I talk to you."