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GUEST,John Mitchell 31 Mar 04 - 09:52 AM
GUEST,TIA 31 Mar 04 - 09:55 AM
wysiwyg 31 Mar 04 - 10:04 AM
artbrooks 31 Mar 04 - 10:06 AM
GUEST 31 Mar 04 - 10:20 AM
MC Fat 31 Mar 04 - 10:31 AM
Stilly River Sage 31 Mar 04 - 10:32 AM
M.Ted 31 Mar 04 - 10:40 AM
Little Hawk 31 Mar 04 - 10:52 AM
GUEST,Teribus 31 Mar 04 - 11:03 AM
freda underhill 31 Mar 04 - 11:14 AM
Avril Betts 31 Mar 04 - 11:15 AM
M.Ted 31 Mar 04 - 11:18 AM
freda underhill 31 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM
DougR 31 Mar 04 - 11:50 AM
GUEST,heric 31 Mar 04 - 12:00 PM
Little Hawk 31 Mar 04 - 12:08 PM
GUEST,heric 31 Mar 04 - 12:11 PM
maire-aine 31 Mar 04 - 12:27 PM
kendall 31 Mar 04 - 01:12 PM
Big Mick 31 Mar 04 - 01:17 PM
Peace 31 Mar 04 - 01:34 PM
Bobert 31 Mar 04 - 06:37 PM
freda underhill 31 Mar 04 - 06:40 PM
Jim Dixon 31 Mar 04 - 07:36 PM
NH Dave 01 Apr 04 - 01:17 AM
paddymac 01 Apr 04 - 08:23 PM

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Subject: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: GUEST,John Mitchell
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 09:52 AM

NEW YORK 12.45 breaking news: – President George W Bush today provoked new controversy about the legitimacy of his government, with the following comments:

"Our party watched as we were all reminded on a daily basis of the importance of each and every vote. We were reminded of the strength of our networks -- that while our party is not always perfect, it is fundamentally strong and more effective than any other administration in gaining power. While I am aware that not every voter got a chance to vote, I accept that the ones who count were able to lodge their vote, and those who are dangerous and a security risk to our country had no right to vote anyway. I will do everything within my power to ensure that the moral majority in America continue to exercise their democratic rights."

President George W Bush's comments have caused a storm of protest, amidst calls for him to stand down. President Bush also acknowledged the fact that nearly 175,000 votes went uncounted in Florida and that as many as 90,000 potential voters were dumped from the rolls because they were considered felons not eligible to vote.

President George W Bush has agreed to allow the International Commission of Jurists to monitor the next American election, on condition that members of the Commission sign a confidentiality agreement about their role in the election, and about the outcomes of the election. President Bush said that the presence of international monitors will ensure an outcome which supports stability and security in the United States. The US Civil Rights Commission has praised the move, although they have questioned the need for the confidentiality provisions. The New York Times


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 09:55 AM

Where, and in fromt of whom did he say this? If it is true, it is OUTRAGEOUS! References please if you've got 'em.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:04 AM

Thanks, John; how's Martha? :~)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: artbrooks
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:06 AM

Does not appear in "nytimes.com", and a search since 1996 comes up empty. A troll, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:20 AM

What time is it in NY at the minute?
Is it after 12.45?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: MC Fat
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:31 AM

When you have a totally media driven electio like you do in the US it's not surprising that you have cock ups like you have had. Reign in the media , the people who announce the winner on on side of the country before the other side has even had a chance to vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:32 AM

To quote Click and Clack,

Bogus!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: M.Ted
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:40 AM

It should be dated tomorrow--and next time, John Mitchell, remember that in the US we would demand that he "step down", not "stand down"--


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 10:52 AM

I mildly disapprove of throwing gasoline on a fire in order to put it out.

Then too, I mildly disapprove of an electoral system based on innuendo and character assassination.

Here's how it works:

1. You arbitrarily invent 2 (and only 2) bureaucratic entities called "political parties", and you set them up in permanent opposition to one another. (Why anyone would do something so divisive is hard to figure, unless they were looking to...hmmm...divide and conquer, maybe?)

2. You periodically offer people the unsavory opportunity to choose between these two artificially contrived alternatives. (Ha! Ha!)

3. As time goes by, the people get used to doing it. They begin to think it's normal, intelligent, and useful to do it. They call it "democracy".

4. The competitive nature of this contrived system is such that...

4.a) The 2 parties develop a hatred and contempt for one another that is soon passed on to the general population, generation after generation. This results in a schizoprhenic society filled with hatred.
4.b) Every effort is made to make the other party look like a bunch of crooks and scoundrels (which they probably are...but so is your party).
4.c) Even if the other party gets something right, you still attack them for it anyway.
4.d) The 2 parties need massive funding at a level which can only be secured from large corporations and very rich people...therefore they make sure to do things which only benefit large corporations and very rich people...despite this, it is the votes of many ordinary people which must be gotten to rubberstamp the bastards into power!
4.e)The 2 parties each pick a figurehead to run for "Presidink". He's mainly a marketable face. They each attempt to convince the public that their Presindinkal candidate is a great guy, but the other Presidinkal candidate is a wimp, a jerk, a liar, a fraud, and every other bad thing imaginable!!!
4.f) The personal attacks on the 2 Presidinkal "faces" are so unremitting that they have both had their credibility (such as it was) utterly destroyed by the time voting day comes...except in the eyes of their most purblind followers, who would vote for THEIR party even if it ran a skunk for Presidink.

And now...the funniest part of all!

5. The day after the great vote (assuming the result is clear) EVERYONE is encouraged to UNITE...da! da! dum!...BIND UP THE WOUNDS (self-inflicted)...and STAND BEHIND THE NEW PRESIDINK!!!

LOL! Theatre of the absurd. Believe me, this is the sort of cultural phenomenon that a future civilization looks at in its history books and laughs about.

Only people born into such a system could ever take it seriously. And then, hopefully, only when they were rather young and naive.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:03 AM

M Ted - maybe John was just practicing for tomorrow


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:14 AM

well, this is a case of northern hemiscentric thinking if you ask me. time, while a made up concept, is moving faster than you think.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Avril Betts
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:15 AM

I knew a Japanese guy who had "Election Iregularities" - Viagra sorted him out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: M.Ted
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:18 AM

My point exactly, Terribus--now if we can just figure out what Little Hawk is practicing for--


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM

if Mr Bush is irregular, i suggest he try a few weeks in Guantanamo Bay, Ive heard there's a queue for the loos there..


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: DougR
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 11:50 AM

References, freda, refrences?

As to JM's post: horse pucky.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 12:00 PM

Hello? He's practicing for the arrival of the Space Brothers of the Inner Planes (i.e. from interdimensional consciousness.) You should too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 12:08 PM

Life, M.Ted. I'm practicing for life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 12:11 PM

Dang. I was close maybe. ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: maire-aine
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 12:27 PM

Hog-wash!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: kendall
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 01:12 PM

See Doug? we don't swallow such crap, only the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 01:17 PM

Folks ..... especially Doug ..... you should have gotten this gag, especially when Susan gave you a hint by referencing "Martha". John Mitchell .... Nixon cabinet member ..... get it?????? Damn .... how soon we forget.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Peace
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 01:34 PM

I am inclined to agree with the substance of the initial post, but I knew it was a troll because of the title of the thread. Bush would never 'admit' anything. His keepers would see to that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 06:37 PM

I agrre, brucie... Bush wouldn't cop to jay-walkin'... Should he loose the selection, inspite of Diebold's promise to to get him reselected, it may be because he and his folks refuse to ever admit to screwing up anything but jump right in with lies.

Credibility should be the centerpeice of Kerry's camapign...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 06:40 PM

i hear that the White House has issued a contradictory statement, saying that the President strongly supports democracy, and does not see any need for monitoring of the next election.

from his minders, a denial is as good as an admission.

or, in irregularity terms, adnoidal is good as an emission..

bring on the International Commssion of Jurists. and Dubya, election irregularities are a sign of performance anxiety. can be easuily treated by a good, long..








holiday.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 07:36 PM

The US president doesn't have the constitutional power to promise any organization that they can monitor any election. In the US, all election laws and procedures are determined and administered by the various states. It would be up to the officials of each state to decide whether they wanted their elections monitored. If someone believed that an election had been held in violation of constitutional principles, such as "equal protection of the laws" they could seek redress, after the fact, in a Federal court, but that's about the extent to which the Feds can get involved. (That's more or less what happened in the Florida election of 2000. And many people believe the US Supreme Court overstepped its constitutional authority by even claiming jurisdiction in that case.)

In short, I agree the story is bogus.

I can't blame anyone for trying, however. Bogus news stories often make great satire. See The Onion, for example. But this story isn't outrageous enough to be funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: NH Dave
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 01:17 AM

Remarkable how much this seems like Watergate, to one who remembers it and commented about the situation then, "All he had to do was admit that the burglary took place, and that the miscreants were some over eager staffers. We have slapped them in private personal places and they swear they will never do it again. We're sorry that it did happen and promise not to let it happen again."

A "Mea Culpa" like this back at the start of that brouhaha would have nipped it in the bud and we would not have considered impeaching Nixon, and he wouldn't have had to resign.

Surely it is not coincidence that the same party stands accused of Pooching the process again.



Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Admits Election irregularities
From: paddymac
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 08:23 PM

A good chuckle. The tip-off is apparent in the level of thought and language in the post. I don't think anyone who has followed the trail of W would ever think those words came from him. Now, Rumsfeld is a talented wordsmith. Maybe , well --


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