Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Suffet
Date: 12 Jul 04 - 07:44 AM

To our friends, old and new, who turned out in force at CB's 313 Gallery last night...

THANK YOU!!!

With just a little good luck we will see you at the Fifth Annual Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash next year.

--- Steve

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 11:47 PM

Good idea Bill, but then again, there is the old mark on the side of the lamp post, two brief cases, man in the trench coat, goods in the garbage can cash drop... has a certain, fellow traveller feel to it... "the sparrow flies west over the green onion patch...
Cheers
Larry

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 08:10 PM

Let us solve the mail problem.

What do they say in shows like Sopranos-=---Faahgeddaboutid!!

No postage, no handling, no problems---just fahgeddaboutid.


Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 10:34 AM

Can we simply fax you? I absolutely hate sending cash through the mail! I think it's illegal as well.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 09:34 AM

and where, pray tell, mr. or ms. radio audience, do we send our cash and addresses?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 08:27 AM

Hi Janis:
You may have Oktoberfest, but we have Chester the Cat (and Camp Mojo)! Cheers Larry

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,Radio Audience
Date: 08 Jul 04 - 12:08 AM

Don't make out any checks, I can only take cash. Shipping & Handling is postage.
I'm glad someone is aware that simply taping a radio program is public service.
Send me your address and you will get a tape of the program on July 4, 2004 of Steve, Anne & Eric.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 10:13 PM

I'm finally back at a computer. Oh goodness, have I been missing all the fun! Forget about the Mojo Guitar Shop. We've got the House of Guitars (HOG) here in Irondequoit, New York. That's the town where Oktoberfest comes in September.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 09:13 PM

Dear Steve:
You now work for Pinga Jas Hominawhkerensky (Pronouced Pinga Jas Hominawhkernsky or sometimes Unice Fitzwallergeely Ponderhousen). I am afraid I lost you in a poker game, I poked her and she threatened me with sexual harassment ... I would not worry though, although blind, she CAN tune a radio AND a recording machine and has connections with the Mojo Guitar Shop on St. Marks Place where she can book you into the Island of Broken Toys tour, each night between 11 AM and 10:30 PM. While listening to Steve play and sing, do check out the really neat guitars at reasonable to CHEEP prices. If you buy a guitar, Chris Mojo will let you autograph Pinga's wooden leg.
CHeers
Larry
PS Chester the Cat rules!

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 06:11 PM

Steve,

You should contact the Woody Guthrie Archives. They list Woody-oriented events, large and small, on their website.

Woody Guthrie Archives.

If Nora Guthrie's in town on the day of your show, she might like to attend.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 06:11 PM

Who knows---with all this publicity (negative or otherwise) it can only sell some more tickets for the WG Bash. Is that not always the case---look at all the notoriety that came about when Disney made a stink about not distributing Farenheit 9/11---as one example of negatavism selling the product.

I do, sometimes, find humor in dark situations---but, really, this "blind" business is over the top in bad taste (by the original poster). Perhaps he wants to make tapes now for paraplegics that were downstairs while their radios were upstairs. Bad taste just leads to more bad taste.

On a serious note, though. Just recently I interviewed the executor of the Jim Henson Estate for my program and innocently mentioned that it would be nice to put a shot of the Muppets crew on our website---not so simple. He is an attorney and told me that Disney (which now owns the rights) might cause us a lot of grief. Use Henson instead, he stated, since he is the one who can issue the rights.

Unfortunately, business is getting so complicated in the clearances required makes you wonder how things ever get done---and also know why lawyers make big bucks.

So---what is "handling" anyway? I know postage and packaging.


Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 06:03 PM

Ron,

Yes, I was responding to the guest's comments about the blind.

Digital radio or not, the sightless people I know are all more than capable of turning on, and tuning, a radio.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Suffet
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 05:39 PM

Profits? That's a good one! Let me point out that a sell-out crowd at CB's 313 Gallery is about 100 people, and after producing five different shows at that venue I have yet to be blessed with a sell-out crowd. Admission is only $5 per head, and from that the house gets a cut for itself and to pay the sound guy. We then give the special guest artist and our bass player their payment from the performers' share. The remainder is divided equally. Each of us has done his or her own publicity, which means paying for printing and postage. In my own case, have 180 names on my NY metro area mailing list. In addition, I place quarter page ads in the NY Pinewoods newsletter. Go ahead and do the math!

Does being under contract to Lorcan Industry Inc. mean that the corporation will absorb the loss? [That is joke. Laugh.]

Moreover, didn't I say this? Honestly, I don't really care if anyone is recording me for non-commercial purposes. And this? The bottom line is that for the record I am not giving my permission at this time, although I will not do anything to stop "Radio Audience." That sure seems like I'm saying go ahead and do what you want. But at the same time I'm agreeing that there are some complex issues involved.

Now that we have shown that the horse is truly dead, can we please stop beating it?

But please do come to CB's 313 Gallery this coming Sunday, July 11, 2004, at 7 PM to find out what all the fuss is about. That's at 313 Bowery in New York City.

Just look for the huge throng of cool looking young people with tattoos and body piercings. That's CBGB's/Omfug. We're right next door, where -- alas! -- there will likely be no wait to get in.

--- Steve

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 05:28 PM

And he's STILL flying under the radar. Ron, of COURSE he is!

Dear Mr. Audience, I would love a copy of the tape. I'm not legally blind, but I had a problem finding my reading glasses that day. Whom should I make the check out to, and where should I send it?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 04:55 PM

Backstage Manager, I assume your comment was directed at our guest rather than me.   

Our "guest" who made the statement might have been referring to the issue of digital radios. Unlike the older analog type, many digital radios rely on visuals for accurately tuning in a station. "Scan" buttons often zip by stations leaving the listener to either look at the digital readout to determine what station they have tuned to, or rely on the sound. Audible identification can take time for the announcer to mention the station, and some stations give their call letter infrequently. It can be a challenge.

In the past few years there have been a number of radios put on the market that assist the blind to accurately tune in. Many radios have presets so they can tune in their favorite stations.

I think our guest was merely stirring up the mud.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 04:34 PM

Your suggestion that blind people need help in turning on their radios or tuning in stations is rather insulting.

I know any number of blind people. All of them have skills that go way beyond turning on the radio. One of them, Doc Watson, is one of the most brilliant musical artists of the past 50 years.

Another is Steven Ridgewood, a brilliant sound engineer who has no trouble operating 128-track recording consoles.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 03:17 PM

Once again you are wrong in your statements. While there is no way of getting an accurate count, I have met several listeners who are blind.

You made an ignorant statement earlier when you asked "who will turn on their radio for them". You made an assumption that a blind person could not operate a radio, but you then made an assumption that they can work a tape recorder. If YOU had any care you would realize that there are devices that enable them to tune a radio, operate a taper recorder and so much more.   

I take it that you are more of a crank as opposed to someone with a legitmate point of view.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,Radio Audience
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 03:09 PM

Now I am forced to respond.
How many blind people listen to the station?
You don't even know because you obviously don't care.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 02:46 PM

Be sure to save your receipts!!!!

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 02:39 PM

As a matter of fact, Radio Audience... I get the profits from Steve's WG bash... Steve is under contract to Lorcan Industry Inc. I bought Steve from Joel Landy for a veggie burger and a six pack of diet Jamison's whiskey. It was a fine investment, though I would part with him for a copy of the NY POST headline about Gebhardt.
Cheers Larry

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 12:08 PM

Blind people who can't find the station???????????????

Okay Radio Audience, you've had your fun.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,Radio Audience
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 11:55 AM

I'm performing a PUBLIC SERVICE.

Now I know how Richard Nixon felt when all those people screamed about him working hard to make the world safe from the Communists.

The recording is a gift. If you don't want you don't have to stop others from getting some pure enjoyment from a taped radio program. What about all those blind people who couldn't find the station on the dial? Who's going to turn on their radio for them? Shame on you Ron, Steve and the so called backstage manager!! More like backseat driver if you ask me!!

Ron's post is all smoke and mirrors since we never got a response from Steve about who gets the funds from the Woody Guthrie's Birthday Bash.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 Jul 04 - 12:06 AM

Wow, I take a few hours away from the computer and look what happens.

First, the performance of the Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IS covered because venues do pay performance rights in the same fashion as radio stations pay for broadcast rights.

Secondly, I did not approve the distributing of such a recording. Nor did I claim to own the rights. I may have been to subtle for some, because I do think that the orignal poster made an innocent mistake when they offered the CD and I did not not expect the lengthy discussion that has followed.

If TwoCents read my entire post, he or she would have noticed that I asked if they cleared the rights with Steve, Anne & Eric. Obviously this person did not, because as Steve pointed out the rights weren't given.

MyTwoCents had it all wrong. Public Domain??? Look up the definition before you use the term! As Backstage Manager pointed out, there ARE rights issues involved. As I stated earlier, we do pay our dues for BROADCAST rights.   Someone at home DOES have the right to tape whatever they want off the radio (no matter what station), but that does NOT give them the right to distribute it, for all the reasons said.

The person in question was not giving a "gift". They asked for a "donation" (I'm curious what the amount was and who it was going to) AND shipping and handling.

I do think we are all making too much of this. While I don't know who this person is, I do think it is an innocent mistake by someone who did not know the rules. I was trying to be lighthearted when I asked if they were making a donation.

While it is not like this person is making copies of the latest Madonna or Aerosmith album, the effect on independent artists is probably much greater, and harder for them to collect. Someone who sits at home and records songs off the radio is not doing anything illegal, but they are hurting the artists they think they are supporting. It is a selfish act.   When they start selling those recordings to others, they are doing something illegal. Even if the song and recording is in the public domain, the radio station retains the rights for the broadcast. For a case like this,it would not make financial sense for the radio station and the artists to pursue it, but that does not make it okay for the individual to do what they were doing.

I'm sorry this has taken so many posts and deflects the attention from the Woody Guthrie Bash, which is the whole purpose of this thread. Yes, it has become A Mighty Wind.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:34 PM

Larry, I think so. This one's called 'A Mighty Windup'.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:24 PM

With all due respect to Ron, he doesn't own the rights that you are circumventing when you distribute such a recording.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:22 PM

The radio program is public domain because it's on a non-profit station. There is no need for liscening agreements when one tapes a radio program while it is broadcast to the general public.

You can get away with taping a radio program for your own private use. No one is going to get in a tizzy about that. However, a radio program itself, and the content therein, are not in the public domain, whether or not it is a non-profit radio station. What you cannot legally do without all of the requisite permissions is distribute that recording.

Non-profit radio stations, be they community, public, college, etc. pay to license the music (and sometimes other content) which they broadcast.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 11:19 PM

What is this, the sequel to A Mighty Wind???? Cheers Larry

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,My Two Cents
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 10:52 PM

"I am fine with what you are doing. I do appreciate the exposure since my show can only build on word of mouth."

See even Ron agrees that this is a public service.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,My Two Cents
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 10:48 PM

Sorry but you have it all wrong.

The radio program is public domain because it's on a non-profit station. There is no need for liscening agreements when one tapes a radio program while it is broadcast to the general public.

The donation is for shipping and handling of the tape only, not for the content of the tape. RA made it crystal clear that this is a gift, not a sale.

Here they are doing a public service and what do they get but hubris from the very people who could be a household name thanks to their labor!! I'm simply shocked.

In this vein, are you all having that Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV are you going to pay royalties to the estate of Woody Guthrie?

Who gets the money you are making on that event anyway?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Suffet
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:48 PM

Greetings:

Wow, an Anne Price - Eric Levine - Steve Suffet bootleg!

Honestly, I don't really care if anyone is recording me for non-commercial purposes. But I agree that even if the CDs are given away for free there are some serious issues at hand. Anne Price, for example, sang one song by Woody Guthrie and another in which Hans Eckardt Wenzel put Guthrie's words to music. Both Wenzel and the Guthrie estate should first grant permission for those recordings, and then they should get paid for each copy sold. Anne needs to give permission to use her performance. Eric sang a song by Sis Cunningham and another which I do not recall. I sang one jointly composed by Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger, and another which I wrote to the tune of of a song originally written by the Almanac Singers. At the end we sang a song by Woody Guthrie which was written to a tune Woody borrowed from Huddie Ledbetter.

Put simply, there are lots of authorizations required before that CD can legitimately be distributed.

On the other hand, if we are talking about four or five copies that will truly be sold at cost, there will most likely be no problem encountered. But there is still some risk, no matter how small. The bottom line is that for the record I am not giving my permission at this time, although I will not do anything to stop "Radio Audience."

By the way, the permission to broadcast most of those songs comes from ASCAP or BMI. I am certain WFDU subscribes to both. In the case of my own song, The Ballad of Gary Rader, I belong to neither ASCAP nor BMI. However, by performing that song on WFDU Traditions, I granted WFDU an implied license to broadcast the song. If someone wants to put that song -- or any of my songs -- on a CD, I will be happy to work with him or her to make the process as simple and inexpensive as possible. And that's said by someone who actually earned $76.50 in royalties last year!

--- Steve

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 02:40 PM

That is correct Backstage Manager, and I did not bring that up because I believe the guest is speaking only about the interview portion which did not contain any other recorded music. In addition to recorded music, there are copyrights on the songs themselves which can come into issue.

Copyright and royalty issues are very complex. While the intentions are honorable, it is not a simple matter of slapping in a tape and hit record and then offering the result to the world.    Even at WFDU, we pay for the rights to BROADCAST the music, but we do not have the rights to make a tape of our own broadcast and issue it to the world.   We can receive artist permission for on-air performances and release CD's of that, but even that is a complex issue.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 02:31 PM

There are issues beyond the permissions of the guests on the radio show.

If there is any recorded music, you cannot legally sell a tape of a radio program unless you have a licence (probably with a royalty stipulation) from every performer, songwriter/song publisher and record company involved.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 02:17 PM

Very cute guest.

In all seriousness, I could care less about having my voice reproduced in this case, but I cannot speak for the talents of my guests.   While my show is a tiny blip on the radar in the scheme of things, I do not condone selling the work of another artist without their permission. I am sure your intentions are honorable guest, and I honestly do appreciate your help in making this program available to others.   However, I'm not sure what you are asking in terms of a "small donation", plus handling and shipping charge. That sounds like a sale, not a gift. I assume that you have received approval from Anne, Eric & Steve. If that is the case, then I am fine with what you are doing. I do appreciate the exposure since my show can only build on word of mouth.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,Radio Audience
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 02:06 PM

The taped radio program promoting the Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV is available today, for a mere donation. It is not for sale to anyone.

Since it's not for sale, consider it a gift . There will be a handling and shipping charge to cover the cost of reproduction and postage.

The people that you will hear speaking and singing are Anne Price, Eric Levine, Steve Suffet and the guy whose program it is. What's his name?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:12 AM

Ah the dowey dens of Yarrow... ya gotta chuckle...

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:10 AM

Whoops, that shoud reeed watter oft a dcks bk. Lercn Otwey

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 08:09 AM

Steve beat me to it... Steve and I are great pals and it is getting to the point that one can't pull anyone's leg without a war around here... as to spelling, DAMN! I'd rather be known for my singing and writing then my spelling anyday, water of a duckz bac.
Cheers
Larry

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Suffet
Date: 06 Jul 04 - 05:25 AM

Greetings:

I was unable to log on for the past 24 hours, and I cannot understand what has been going on in my absence. Please let me be clear about this: Lorcan (Larry) Otway is both a dear friend and trusted comrade, as well as a wonderful musician. We have had our differences of opinion, and he does enjoy ribbing me, but we have always acted in a friendly and comradely way to one another, and we will continue to do so.

Ron Olesko has also become a friend, and I am pleased to see that he has invited Lorcan to be on WFDU Traditions. Both will have a good time. More importantly, so will the audience. And without an audience there is no art, whether that art be creating a radio program or making music.

Both Lorcan and I are thankful that we have our respective fans, supporters, and defenders. However, anyone who feels that he or she needs to take sides, or who supposes that there is any bad blood between us, is mistaken.

Having said that, let me get back on topic.

First of all, a big THANK YOU! to Ron Olesko for having Anne Price, Eric Levine, and myself on WFDU Traditions this past Sunday, July 4.

Next, an equally big THANK YOU! to a majority of the United States Supreme Court who have finally shown the guts to assert that the Constitution is not yet a dead letter.

And, of course, a tremendous THANK YOU! in advance to all our friends, fans, well wishers who will turn out at the Fourth Annual Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash this coming Sunday, July 11, 2004, from 7 to 9 PM. That's at CB's 313 Gallery, 313 Bowery, in New York City. Admission is just $5, and for that price you can stay all night and hear the acts which follow ours.

See you all there!

--- Steve

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: JennyO
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 10:43 PM

You are the rude and obnoxious one, GUEST, taking anonymous pot-shots from behind your mask. I would not choose you. Whatever else is going on here between people who know each other is obviously being worked out, and has nothing to do with you.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,www.spellcheck.net
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 10:24 PM

Please enlighten me JennyO. Which one would you choose? Someone who can spell, like me, or someone who's so rude and obnoxious that he makes an issue out of the fact that he wasn't one of the few chosen to be in the bash?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: JennyO
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 10:22 PM

I think that came out wrong - I think I meant a folkie who couldn't spell - well you know what I mean...

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: JennyO
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 10:18 PM

GUEST,www.spellcheck.net, if I had to choose between a folkie who could spell, and a rude and obnoxious one, I know which I would choose. As one of our esteemed members, SIR jOhn from Hull would say, this is music site, not speling site. So there.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,www.spellcheck.net
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 09:53 PM

As to my organizing a Woody Guthery tribute...

am not at all amused. Ron HAS very kindly offered to have me on the air, on a show NOT AT ALL connected to Woody Guthery.

I thought all folkies knew how to spell "Guthrie."

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: InOBU
Date: 05 Jul 04 - 06:17 PM

am not at all amused. Ron HAS very kindly offered to have me on the air, on a show NOT AT ALL connected to Woody Guthery.

A few questions and observations. First of all, 15th Street has no committee of Ministry and Oversight, we have two committees, Ministry and worship, and Pastoral care. Second, point to a single word, printed here by me which says a single unkind thing about Steve, and I agree with Ron, (at the risk of pissing off a fan...) why mention me on a show which has nothing to do with me? If I where you, I'd sign my name, both Radio Audience and Innocent Bystander... Cheers Larry

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 06:25 PM

Why would we mention Larry today?   Larry will be on my show September 12. I hope his fans will tune in!! I am looking forward to having him on the program.

By the way Guest, if you are "selling" copies of my radio show, I trust you will make a generous donation to non-commercial radio station WFDU-FM and NY Pinewoods.   E-mail me at [e-mail] and I will give you details. I do appreciate your support!

It was great to have Steve, Eric and Anne on the show today. They showcased Woody's music by giving examples of the diverse styles that Guthrie used.   The Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash should be memorable!!

Eric gave me a great CD of topical songs that I am looking forward to listening to and sharing with the audience.

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,Radio Audience
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 05:54 PM

If anyone wants to purchase copies of the taped radio show of Steve Suffet promoting the event on July 14th, please post your e-mail here and I will contact you. I listened to the entire program, not once did anyone mention Larry Otway. Why?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,Innocent Bystander
Date: 04 Jul 04 - 05:50 PM

I think it is time to point out the Committee for Ministry and Oversight at the Quaker Meeting on 15th Street may want to have a word with Mr. Otway on his stirring up of bad feelings and his intentions to cause harm to a simple musical performance.
What kind of Quaker would want to mix it up in this ungentlemanly manner with an old retired school teacher like Steve?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Suffet
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 10:27 PM

Read Ramblin' Man by Ed Cray, Woody Guthrie: a Life by Joe Klein, and Woody's own Bound for Glory. Then you will have as many stories as I have.

--- Steve

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: GUEST,2 in harmony
Date: 02 Jul 04 - 08:05 PM

Steve---Enjoyed the way your mentioned of some of the songs most closely associated with Woody. (6/24/04) Do you have a story or two to tell about the man himself?

Subject: RE: Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash IV
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Jun 04 - 09:11 AM

Sure wish I was going to be close, Steve. I would love to come to this one.

Good luck,and I hope many Mudcatters come to your event.

All the best,

Mick