BS: Penelope Routledge CBE

Subject: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Jun 04 - 11:57 PM

just heard this announced on the news, she got an OBE in the queens birthday honours thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 04:18 AM

PR OBE, how fitting!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 04:33 AM

Oh, how would Hyancinth Bucket (pronounced Bookay) love that!!!

Sheridan would be sqirming in embarassment at his mother wearing her OBE to every candlelight supper!

It's well deserved, she's done so much that never got her the recognition that Hyacinth did, but is much more worthy of recognition.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 04:34 AM

Who is Penelope Routledge? pardon my ignorance.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 04:56 AM

It's supposed to be Patricia Routledge - I wondered why it looked funny! Penelope Routledge must be really confused now, because she's a writer on feminism!




Patricia Routledge

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 05:07 AM

Any connection to John Routledge formerly known as Geordie Broon?

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 06:16 AM

Got it now.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 11:44 AM

Oh, and it was a CBE she got (same as John Hurt) - a notch up on an OBE, which she'd already got. But what the hell? Os, Cs... they're all the same on jOhn's keyboard!

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 11:55 AM

A C is an O with a missing piece :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 01:49 PM

And a Q is an O with an extra piece.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 02:11 PM

And an Ö is a C with 3 extra pieces ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: saulgoldie
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 02:40 PM

'Scuse me, but what's an "OBE" and why do I care?

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 02:51 PM

Order of the British Empire
CBE is afaik a Commander of the British Empire

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 03:08 PM

It's a way of bestowing the Queen's (or King's, whichever the case may be) favour on a distinguished subject that doesn't involve giving them any land.

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 04:28 PM

Either that or it's an Out of Body Experience... :-)

Penelope Rutledge is reputed to have an excellent body and be very well-grounded, so I think that the Order of the British Empire is more likely in her case.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: akenaton
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 04:42 PM

Once saw Patricia do an Alan Bennett monologue about a woman with cancer going through the last few months of her life.
It started with the woman in denial of the disease,then her gradual acceptance,although never admission to the audiance.
One of the finest performances and pieces of writing that I ever heard.    Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 12 Jun 04 - 10:10 PM

"A Woman of No Importance," Ake. A bold move for telly all those years ago - late 70s, early 80s? - just a woman talking to the camera. That was way before Bennett's Talking Heads series, though the script was included when the Talking Heads scripts were published.

Routledge was originlly destined to be a star of old-style musicals, and had leading roles in several big West End and Broadway productions in the 1950s and 1960s. No fault of hers, but every show flopped. I've never seen any sign of rancour or regret that the singing side of her career didn't pan out.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 03:18 AM

Thanks Fionn..I had forgotten the title of that piece.
Interesting about her failed musical career.
Hope you were as moved by the Bennett monologue as I was ,all those years ago,it said much about the "human condition ".....Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: fat B****rd
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 07:15 AM

I see Hank B. Marvin turned his down. Just thought I'd mention that.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: gnomad
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 07:16 AM

Thinking of the miseading thread titles thread, I just misread this one as Penelope Rutledge..etc.

Hard to imagine that Twillingstgate would let that pass unmarked.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: GUEST,Captain Nigel West, CGC
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:57 AM

I'm not at all clear about why Miss Rutledge is being awarded the OBE, but I'm certain that she deserves it. Although I'm still recovering from wounds, I'm certain that all of Twillingsgate is abuzz with this news.

Bravo, Penelope!

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 13 Jun 04 - 09:05 PM

Alan Bennett, who wrote that play she was in, declined some similar honour, Fat Bastard. I'm puzzled by Hank's decision, which was said to be for "personal and private reasons." A fine musician, in a fine band, but because of his association with Cliff Richard I assumed he must be exactly the kind of prat who would love a gong. Sounds like he might be a decent geezer after all.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 03:40 AM

Seems like more and more people are refusing their honours.... Benjamin Zephaniah (black poet, lives down my road) sent his back at New Year too.... but was a little less reticent about his reasons!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: GUEST,Ooh-Aah
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 04:39 AM

Apparently only 2% rejected their honour this year (Guardian unlimited). Not too much comfort for the republican ratbags there!

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 05:01 AM

I rejected mine, i couldent be arsed to go to London to collect it.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 05:16 AM

Admit it, John, you rejected it because it was an OBE, not an OB9 ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 09:21 AM

I reject mine, but it was a mistake. I thought it said "RIP".

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 09:34 AM

If it's an Out of Body Experience, I'm interested.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 09:57 AM

Little Hawk, I think that depends on whose body you will be out of... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jun 04 - 12:52 PM

Fionn...Do you think the character Pat played in " A woman of no importance",could have been used as a prototype for Hyacinth
Although the background of the two women is different ,there are similarities in the psychology....Suspension of reality..ect

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Schantieman
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 09:12 AM

OBE is actually Officer of the Order of the British Empire, the other grades being (in descending, erm, order):

Knight/Dame of the Order of the British Empire (K/DBE)
Officer...             (OBE)
Companion...       (CBE)
Member...          (MBE)

[/pedant]

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 09:23 AM

Thanks for the clarification, Schantieman.

But being pedantic: your [/pedant] is missing its [pedant] pendant ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MMario
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 09:27 AM

I believe the latest standard allows an implied [pedant]. It is normally more important for clear understanding that the [/pedant] be present.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 09:30 AM

Well, of course, there is something to be said for "in body" experiences too... :-)

But I don't want to arouse the wrath of La Rutledge by saying anything further about that.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 10:11 AM

jOhn - from the sound of some of the Hull postings, you shouldn't have to go down to London to receive (or lose) your honour. I'm sure there's plenty of old queens who would oblige up there !

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 03:34 PM

Hi all,

Just to make it clear:

In 1992, Patricia Routledge was voted BBC Television Personality of the Year.

In 1993 she was awarded the OBE.

This year (2004) receives a CBE.


Oh, wise and wonerful Joe Clones, could you change the name of this thread to: Patricia Routledge CBE. Thank you.

DING!

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge OBE
From: MudGuard
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 03:45 PM

According to Schantieman, an OBE is higher than a CBE - so was she downgraded?

And I repeat my previous question: is P. Routledge connected in any way to Mudcatter John Routledge?

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge CBE
From: Blackcatter
Date: 15 Jun 04 - 11:54 PM

1) CBE is higher than an OBE.

2) I dunno.

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge CBE
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 07:51 AM

she did another talking heads one, a lady of letters - about a waman who is sent to prison for sending nuisance letters. more genius....

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge CBE
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 08:27 AM

Good on Patricia, she deserves it. I hear that jennifer Saunders..a national treasure, has turned one down...is this so ?

Subject: RE: BS: Penelope Routledge CBE
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 04 - 10:36 AM

Patricia Routledge is to Penelope Rutledge as a goose pimple is to Mount Everest.