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BS: The jihad must be stopped

M.Ted 30 Aug 04 - 12:30 PM
Rapparee 30 Aug 04 - 12:20 PM
wysiwyg 30 Aug 04 - 12:13 PM
wysiwyg 29 Aug 04 - 01:21 PM
Dave the Gnome 29 Aug 04 - 12:44 PM
Once Famous 28 Aug 04 - 09:41 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: M.Ted
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 12:30 PM

The documentary is called Death in Gaza, and it will be shown a a variety of times on over the next weeks on HBO--here is the HBO decription,   which makes it clear that Martin only saw part of it-

                
DEATH IN GAZA
                
In spring 2003, award-winning filmmaker James Miller and reporter Saira Shah, set out to take a first-hand look at the culture of hate that permeates the Middle East. They captured the lives of three Palestinian children growing up in the bullet-riddled streets of Gaza. Although James and Saira had planned to film the lives of Israeli children as well, in the midst of production, Miller was shot to death by an Israeli tank, falling victim to the very conflict he covered.



Thanks for calling our attention to this, Marty--with luck, I'll be able to catch one of the showings--


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Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 12:20 PM

Peace, I think, can only come when we realize that everyone has value and we use those values for the betterment of all.

Life's difficult enough; why not help one another along the way -- instead of tripping them and falling ourselves?


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Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 12:13 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 01:21 PM

Yes, there is plenty going on in the world that sucks bigtime. In the US and everywhere.

What I'd be curious to know is, what is happening these days with the Arab-Israeli peace efforts that were occurring between individuals and settlements? Sometimes it's the small-scale approaches that end up tipping the Big Picture. (Berlin Wall, USSR, apartheid, etc.) Yes these efforts (just listed in parens) also are not yet perfected but they did allow for a lot of change, and IMO THAT degree of change is what will persist and,hopefully take root and grow.

So anyone know, what are the small hopeful signs one can encourage, in the topic posted, before we're swamped past the ability to act while thinking, by all the wrong things happening?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 12:44 PM

Not sure if this type of documentary does anything to help MG! I'm not saying it ain't true, I'm sure it is, but you only see part of the picture. Yes there are places that teach that dying in a jihad is the only way to get to heaven but there are christian and jewish places just as bad! I was in your home City (Chicago insn't it?) a few weeks back and was handed a piece of paper by a very pleasent looking old black man on the street. It was the worse piece of inflamatory drivel against islam I have ever read!

I also know a friend of mine was shot at by an Israeli spotter plane while crossing the desert wearing Arab gear (See Ted Edwards , beyond the last oasis to see why!) Are we to conlude from these two episodes that all old black men in Chicago are islam haters or all Israelis shoot arabs on sight?

I guess not. Don't listen to the propaganda. It is Lord Haw-Haw or Tokyo Rose all over again. I know from your Mudcat postings you are intelligent enough to make up your own mind and let other people do the same. Lets try and determine why the media barons like these type of shows instead. Could it be for ratings by any chance? ;-)

Cheers (and Peace!)

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: BS: The jihad must be stopped
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 09:41 PM

I watched part of a unsettling documentary today on HBO about how Arab children go to school in Gaza and that their role in life is the goal of jihad.

Very unsettling.

Self esteem at it's worst. It starts with how Arab women are treated.


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