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Subject: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: PoppaGator Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:08 PM No, I do not refer to regurgitation. Ireland really needs something at which they can kick the rest of the world's ass. The Indonesians have badminton, fer crissakes, the Indians and Pakis have field hockey, the Hungarians and Serbs share access to the water polo gold medal, the USA has basketba -- uh, well, used to have basketball, should have had baseball, er, well, at least has women's team sports. How 'bout something for the Irish, who had to settle for one stinking medal (albeit a gold) this time around? Hurling is a great spectacle and a very exciting spectator sport, and ought to be showcased to the rest of the world. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Raedwulf Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:49 PM I thought the point of the Olympics was that the sports were played by the world? Hence no American football, stock car racing, baseball... Ooooops! It's in, isn't it? How the Hell did that pile of crap get in?!If you're determined to get Ireland a gold why not go the whole hog & propose Synchronised Guiness Hurling?! ;-) Me, I'd prefer to lose the likes of baseball, tennis, synchronised swimming ("We used to be ice dancers, but the rink melted..."), & other such nonsense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Big Al Whittle Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:59 PM Excellent idea! Mind you I thought the original idea of having Celtic sports was to cut yourself off from the pernicious English influence. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: PoppaGator Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:30 PM Actually, new sports usually enter the Games at the behest of the current host country. I'm afraid there won't a be a bid from Dublin to host the extravaganza anytime soon -- Athens was probably the last city in any smallish nation ever to take on that task. Incidentally, there is already a formal proposal to eliminate baseball. One has to wonder if the conspicuous lack of success on the part of the US (by whom the sport was introduced, in Los Angeles 1984) has anything to do with it. I did *not* hear that softball, the women's version of the same game, was in similar trouble -- and the American girls have *totally* dominated Olympic softball. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,JTT Date: 03 Sep 04 - 03:37 PM No, wee, hurling predates the pernition of albion. It's a great idea; mind you, we already kick the world's ass in a couple of sports - literature, horse training and racing... I hesitate to say music ;) The only possible objection is that hurling is a little too dangerous for most countries. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: PoppaGator Date: 03 Sep 04 - 05:54 PM The origins of the sport of hurling may indeed predate *many* historical developments, but the establishment of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) in the 1880s was part of the same nationalist cultural movement as the Gaelic League's revival of the Irish language and the rise of Hiberno-English theatre and literature (Yeats, Synge, Joyce, et al). All of these related developments had a common goal of inspiring Irish national pride and consciousness, and played a role leading up to the Easter 1916 uprising and eventual independence. The GAA, of course, promotes and organizes competition in hurling and Gaelic football among Irish counties (all 32 of 'em, across the international boundary) and provinces. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Wolfgang Date: 03 Sep 04 - 06:14 PM For a sport to be able to be included it has to be played in a minimum of twenty countries (not: 32 counties). End of discussion. Unless you go the way of the international bobsled association. They are always at the brink of elimination from the Olympics and therefore the rich countries like Germany, Italy, Austria and Switserland who usually share all the medals among them finance some exotic countries like Jamaica to join the competiton. That is fun for the spectators, safe for the medal aspirations of the big countries, and four students from Jamaica get a free ticket to Europe and see ice and snow for the first time in their lifes. They even get an old bobsled for free that doesn't bother anybody when they overturn and wreck it. You could start with Svalbard, San Marino, the Holy See (naa, better not) and once you have twenty countries doing this sport at a regular basis and participating at world championships then you could start thinking about applying. For a free 4 weeks journey to Ireland (preference West to North coast) I'd be willing to compete and learn the rules. That would be fun for you, and (with the exception of the actual game) fun for me. We even could make a gentlemen's agreement: I'm not trying to beat you if you promise you are not trying to hit me. Just tell me how many of my friends I could bring with me to form a team. May we bring women too? Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Rapparee Date: 03 Sep 04 - 08:26 PM I know for a fact that hurling is played in the US. So is tossing the camber, Gaelic football, and other sorts of Celtic mayhem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: catspaw49 Date: 03 Sep 04 - 10:00 PM Can I ask how many people take their rifles out skiing so they can occasionally rip off a few shots? What the hell kind of sport is that? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 03 Sep 04 - 10:09 PM Spaw, it is part of the Military training in some Scandinavian countries. Something to do with defending their country in winter, and they've had plenty of experience in that. In the original games at Olympia, one of the events was a foot race in full armour and shield and helmet - which was also part of their military background - the whole games was really about that as Greece was a very military society. As for Hurling, Australia will win that hands down. For Documentary reference material, consult the film "The Adventures of Barry MacKenzie". Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST Date: 04 Sep 04 - 12:43 PM Please let us keep this national treasure, the rest of the world may corrupt this beautiful, skilful sport. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 04 Sep 04 - 08:40 PM Some Categories: Porcelain Prayer, Driving the Bus, Technicolour Yawn, Chunder in the Old Pacific Sea |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Mark Cohen Date: 04 Sep 04 - 10:11 PM 'Spaw, where ya been? Good to hear from you, even if it's only a half-assed complaint (with which I agree completely, of course). By the way, the Hawaii biathlon is eating spam while surfing. Extra points if you make the musubi yourself. Aloha, Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Mark Cohen Date: 04 Sep 04 - 10:21 PM By the way, I tried to look up "hurling" on Google, and after checking about half a dozen websites I still don't have the foggiest notion of what the game is all about. Sounds a bit like a cross between field hockey, Quidditch, and 43-Man Squamish. This site with the basic Rules of Hurling was quite helpful, I admit: I learned that "A player may take as many steps as he/she wishes whilst carrying the sliotar on the boss of the hurley." And a yabba-dabba-doo to you, too! Aloha, Mark |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 05 Sep 04 - 05:05 AM ... you can walk/run as far as you can without being caught/killed while balancing the ball/puck/thingie on the hockey-stick/club thingie... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Hrothgar Date: 05 Sep 04 - 05:31 AM Hurley, played at the highest level, is a marvellous game. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST Date: 05 Sep 04 - 07:03 AM Hrothgar, let the ignorant rave on, I have seen most of the Worlds sports but I have yet to see anything to compare with Hurling. Mark Cohen if you can manage to get to an Irish pub next Sunday and they are showing the All-Ireland Final between Cork and Kilkenny view it, and then come back to this thread with a wee bit more than an ignorant grunt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 05 Sep 04 - 09:26 AM I've always been sad that we never get to see the game in Australia, except once a year - if you can find out when it's on TV, and nowadays, I think it's only on cable in Australia. I have always preferred to Thugby - or Thugball. Sorry, I get confused between the two, - Hrothgar, in which one can you kick the other side in the head? Sorry, Hrothgar... ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK--RULES, Clear as a bell Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:53 AM Read the following. I am going to start a league in Alberta. A player can run a maximum of four steps with the sliotar (ball) in his/her hand. A player may take as many steps as he/she wishes while carrying the sliotar on the boss of the hurley. A player may take the sliotar into his/her hand up to two times while travelling in possesion. The sliotar may not be thrown; the correct hand-pass technique must be used. The sliotar may not be picked directly from the ground; the roll-lift or the jab-lift must be used. A player who is in possesion may not score with his/her hand. If the sliotar is in flight, a player may score by striking the ball with his/her hand. Three defenders may stand on the goal-line when a penalty is being taken. A free-puc is awarded when a defender strikes the ball over his/her own endline. Three points are equal to one goal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:54 AM I'm gonna smoke a j and come back to this thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK-- Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:54 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 06 Sep 04 - 01:00 AM Like, the rules are in code, right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 06 Sep 04 - 01:36 AM A player can run a maximum of four steps with the sliotar (ball) in his/her hand. TRANSLATION: This rule needs no translation. A player may take as many steps as he/she wishes while carrying the sliotar on the boss of the hurley. TRANSLATION: Men and women play at this together and it involves free-style sex. A player may take the sliotar into his/her hand up to two times while travelling in possesion. TRANSLATION: Having determined that the game is about sex, this rule needs no translation either. The sliotar may not be thrown; the correct hand-pass technique must be used. TRANSLATION: This will come clear in time. The sliotar may not be picked directly from the ground; the roll-lift or the jab-lift must be used. TRANSLATION: For the sake of clarity, North Americans may use a fork-lift. A player who is in possesion may not score with his/her hand. TRANSLATION: No cheating. If the sliotar is in flight, a player may score by striking the ball with his/her hand. TRANSLATION: The player must be in flight while doing this, so the game involves airplanes or hot-air balloons. Three defenders may stand on the goal-line when a penalty is being taken. TRANSLATION: It is a union job. A free-puc is awarded when a defender strikes the ball over his/her own endline. TRANSLATION: None required. Three points are equal to one goal. TRANSLATION: See conversion internet sites for the scoring simplification manual. Look at a thread to do with metric/imperial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: ard mhacha Date: 06 Sep 04 - 06:53 AM Grok, Have you had that brain scan yet?. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Sttaw Legend Date: 06 Sep 04 - 06:57 AM negative |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 06 Sep 04 - 08:38 AM ... so much for the results, now back to the game.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,skipy Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:05 PM This "hurling" thing, does the banjo have to be a particular make & weight? or will any banjo do? Regards Skipy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 06 Sep 04 - 04:46 PM ard, Got the scan results today--shows nothing. Doctor figures I should be able to understand hurling. LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha. Date: 06 Sep 04 - 05:06 PM Grok, Try and get to an Irish pub next Sunday, the game is relayed around the World, I don`t know what part of the World you are in but this game on Sunday played before close on 80,000 will be a cracker. Two of Ireland`s premier Hurling Counties, Cork and Kilkenny will thrill the crowd with their fantastic skill. a great game which requires more skill than any other sport I have seen. See it and enjoy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 06 Sep 04 - 05:18 PM ard marcha, I hope you know I have been kidding. My own ancestry has Irish and Scottish in it from two generations ago. Many of the games from the Isles tend to confuse Canadians and Americans. Hell, I once watched a game that came from England--cricket it was--and it took me over an hour to figure out that it HAD rules. Like rugby or that other one that has the players form a huddle and they are crazy enough to do the banging into each other without pads. Gawd. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 06 Sep 04 - 05:19 PM Spelling: Ard Mhacha. Sorry about that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:07 PM GROK, you mean Thugby - or is it Thugball.... That game will get to Australia live sometime VERY early Monday... but I sadly won't be awake... It likely won't be on FTA-TV |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: PoppaGator Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:33 PM For hurling-related sportswear, check out: http://www.pride.ie This outfit is marketing shirts for GAA fans in the traditional colors of each county. (I'm partial to the green and hot red-orange of Mayo.) There are two basic designs, one for Gaelic football and one for hurling. For most counties, they're currently selling either the football design or the hurling but not both. A choice between the two styles is available only the largest counties (with the most prospective buyers). The hurling shirt is probably a better conversation piece, with a helmet superimposed on a pair of crossed hurleys. If you're looking for something to wear in New York or Sydney or Glasgow on St. Patrick's Day, you could do worse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: Mark Cohen Date: 07 Sep 04 - 04:10 AM GUEST, who wants me to go to an Irish pub and watch hurling: The problem I have with Irish pubs is that they keep playing all that damn Irish music all the time. And it's not even the good stuff like "Molly Malone" or "Danny Boy" or "The Unicorn," that you can at least sing along with. It's all these idiots who think that people want to listen to a bunch of guys with violins and tin whistles and Aloha, Mark PS Those drum things are pretty cool, though. They should have more people playing them. Well, hitting them, I mean. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Proposed addition to Olympics: Hurling From: GUEST,GROK Date: 07 Sep 04 - 09:25 AM And that goes for the cat, too! LOL Mark. Good on yer. |
