BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole

Subject: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:44 PM

Senators Accuse U.N. Leader of Blocking Their Fraud Inquiry

The oil-for-food scandal

Kofi Annan's Son Under Scrutiny

Kofi Annan's Shrinking Credibility

U.N.'S UNFINISHED BUSINESS

KOFI ANNAN, THE TYRANTS' FRIEND


M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 12:51 AM

I have looked at all of the sites presented by Molotov [above]
   First , may I point out [probably for the millionth-plus time--and by a million-plus people] the the Nations of the U.N. which are being lumped in with whoever has responsibility for the "oil for food" racket, did NOT ,repeat for another emphatic time, NOT oppose the illegal invasion "for the removal of Saddam Hussein". The Vast majority of the members of the U.N. oppposed the unilateral invasion on the contemptible , lying pretence of "weapons of mass destruction". And , I would point out, the USA and Tony Blair were leaders of member countries of the UN,and had--or should have had---some responsibility for just how the "oil for food" programme was being directed. As we all know, they were too damn' busy bombing the hell out of Iraqi infrastructue to be bothered too much with the trivial matter of the parlous state of the human condition in Iraq.
   Nothing which the Bush media in North America can concoct will convince me that what happened leading up to the invasion was all a mirage. Nor will it convince ME that all apologists [American or otherwise] for the Hounds of hell who began this atrocity are not merely mistaken but are actually in favour of the continuing slaughter in the full knowledge that it is all based on falsehood and uncaring greed and cruelty. Molotov---which are you? Do you accept the sincerity of the sneaky little hints of "maybe we were wrong on that but---" and "we were given faulty intelligence"etc., etc.? Or are you one of those who know perfectly well they are liars, but think that the abominable end justifies the evil means? Do NOT lose sight of the fact that the "reason" for attacking Iraq was "weapons of mass destruction' --not the suddenly -embraced lately-discovered "removal of Saddam " and the "liberation" of the Iraqi
people". Hussein was a lousy bastard; so are some of his leading opponents.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:34 AM

The US govt has been carrying on a campaign against the UN for some time. Its not Kofi Annan, its just that the US govt doesn't want to be accountable to anyone, or have to operate under any rules but their own. Not content to just do their own thing, they are working hard to systematically discredit the UN and its various committees and functions. And the govts of UK and Australia are not far behind them.

Megalomania resists all limits.

United States leads charge to discredit U.N.

US tried to discredit UN inspectors, says Blix

UK govt spies on Kofi Annan

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:38 AM

freda,

One could say that the UN has been carrying on a campaign against the US for some time. Just depends on which set of bias you want to subscribe to.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:29 AM

yes, i guess its what's good for the world, or whats good for a few businessmen in the US.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:54 AM

Or what is good for a few businessmen in the UN, or whats good for the rest of us...

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:07 AM

Thousands of Iraqi citizens slaughtered and forgotten by two of the most evil warmongering nations on earth, hell will not be hot enough for their leaders.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:13 AM

Hundreds of thousands of Sudanese killed by Arab militias, Hell will not be hot enough for the leader of the UN that chose to let this happen, in addition to Rwanda, Bosnia, and various other places he waits until it is too late to help.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:19 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:22 AM

No other countries in the world come close to waging war with others as the US and Britain, the two evil empires.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:23 AM

No, they just sit back and watch the innocents get killed, and do nothing. See who DIDN'T want to declare what is going on in Sudan to be Genocide- Then talk to me about the US and Britain.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:26 AM

Tell me I am wrong, no other nations on earth can match the evil deeds of the US and Btitain.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:26 AM

"the admnistration will continue to press other countries to press the United Nations to press Sudan's government. The uncertainty of this strataegy was immediately apparent after Mr Powell spoke. Brushing aside the evidence, France and Germany declined to call the killings genocide. "

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:27 AM

How has the tragedy in the Sudan become an excuse for Iraq? self righteousness wears sunglasses.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:31 AM

Can someone compile a list of countries that the US and Britain have over the years been in conflict with, no, I wont ask you to compile a list of countries THEY haven`t been at war with, too easy.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:31 AM

http://search.cnn.com/pages/search/advanced.jsp?Coll=cnn_xml&QuerySubmit=true&Page=1&QueryText=sudan&query=sudan

Has the tragedy in Iraq become an excuse for Sudan? You weep over 100,000, but ignore the deaths of 2 million...


Next time there are murders around here, I will tell the police that we have to pick out the "right" people to protect....

Americans killing arabs is bad, but Arabs killing blacks is ok?

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:34 AM

I think i asked you this a few months ago, bruce, what have you done for the people in the sudan?

and why do you say people care about one and not about the other?

black and white..

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:35 AM

..oops, ping pong!

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:39 AM

freda,

I have tried to bring it to the attention of all the caring people here, but that is useless.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IRAQ?

I hear a lot of bitching, but did anyone here ask Saddam to comply with the UN resolutions? NO.


Every time I mention Sudan someone brings up Iraq, and states that I am using Sudan as an excuse for Iraq. I AM NOT.

If all of you out there want to complain about Bush, at least have the decency to allow that his administration is doing more than the UN, France, and Germany.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:00 AM

ping

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:05 AM

Britain has been to war in America, Asia, all over Europe, including her neighbours Scotland and Ireland, not forgetting her conflicts with the naives of Australia and New Zealand. Post 1945 we have a few other to add to the list, there may be some others I may have missed,
India,Palestine, Malaya, Korea, Suez Canal Zone, Kenya, Cyprus, Suez 1956, Borneo, Vietnam, Aden, Radfan, Oman, Dhofar, N Ireland, The Falklands, The Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Sierra Leone.

Now would some kind person from the US try and fill in the countries the world`s policeman has smashed up.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:08 AM

This is a good article explaining the situation in the Sudan, for anyone who's interested, but it doesn't say Kofi Annan is arrogant!

Jim Lobe article on genocide in the Sudan

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: ard mhacha
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:09 AM

Sorry I overlooked Africa pre 1945.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:38 AM

An article from The Observer, Sunday October 3, 2004 comments that American warnings that Darfur is heading for an apocalyptic humanitarian catastrophe have been widely exaggerated, because of Washington's desire for a regime change in Khartoum.

US misrepresenting situation in Sudan

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:40 PM

"While none of the aid workers and officials interviewed by The Observer denied there was a crisis in Darfur - or that killings, rape and a large-scale displacement of population had taken place - many were puzzled that it had become the focus of such hyperbolic warnings when there were crises of similar magnitude in both northern Uganda and eastern Congo.

Concern about USAID's role as an honest broker in Darfur have been mounting for months, with diplomats as well as aid workers puzzled over its pronouncements and one European diplomat accusing it of 'plucking figures from the air'."

One word... oil. Plus in northern Uganda and easter Congo, there probably aren't any Arabs involved, so they can't use it in their campaign to demonize all Arabs.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 04:19 PM

Bearded Bruce you say,
"No, they just sit back and watch the innocents get killed, and do nothing."

The Bush Administration has blood on it's hands for killing innocent Iraqi citizens, both women and children.

The "rest of us" that you talk about is nearly half of the US.

Mandate my ass! Mission accomplished!

Annan is under attack by a corrupt Administration.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:25 PM

So, does this mean Kofi Annan is NOT an asshole?

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: Peace
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:36 PM

Anyone can make a war. It takes something special to make a peace. For the following I am very proud of my country:

Canada and peacekeeping
A history of Canada's participation
Over 125,000 Canadian personnel have served in peacekeeping operations for the United Nations; this is more than any other country.
Although the UN began deploying peacekeepers as early as 1948, the term "peacekeeping" itself was not broadly used until 1956 when it was popularized by former Canadian Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson.

Incidentally, 'ol Lester was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.

Anybody can start a war. These people help end them.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 08:33 PM

From Freda's link - "Another aid worker told The Observer : 'It suited various governments to talk it all up, but they don't seem to have thought about the consequences. I have no idea what Colin Powell's game is, but to call it genocide and then effectively say, "Oh, shucks, but we are not going to do anything about that genocide" undermines the very word "genocide".'

d

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 08:37 PM

No, Kofi Annan is not an arrogant asshole.

I am, however, thankful that he is arrogant enough to defy pressure from the U.S. I am glad that he is intelligent enough to resist the temptation to jump into a situation without knowing the facts. I am really glad that Kofi Annan is able to listen to all sides.

d

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 10:21 PM

"Annan was Secretary-General during the 2003 invasion of Iraq and called for the U.S. and UK not to invade without UN support. In 2004 Annan called the invasion and occupation illegal.

Initially, Annan refused to investigate the Oil for Food program. Only after several independent investigations were set up did Annan agree to do an internal investigation on the program. Several people connected to Kofi Annan, including his son Kojo Annan, appear to have received money from the Oil for Food program illegally. Additionally, several people investigating the program appear to have received money illegally from the program. Annan has ignored calls to make the investigation transparent and refused to hand over several documents to the independent investigations."

"In his book Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda, ex-General Roméo Dallaire claims that Annan was overly passive in his response to the 1994 Tutsi genocide in Rwanda. Dallaire claims that Annan, the head of the peacekeeping mission in Rwanda at that time, held back UN troops from intervening to settle the conflict and from providing more logistic and material support."

"You can do a lot with diplomacy, but with diplomacy backed up by force you can get a lot more done." - Kofi Annan February 24th 1998 regarding the use of force to gain compliance from Saddam Hussein"

"For example, there was that splendidly legitimate U.N. operation in Bosnia, where its blue-helmeted peacekeepers watched with indifference as Serbian soldiers rounded up for slaughter thousands of Muslim men in the so-called U.N. "safe haven" of Srebrenica."

"Saddam's U.N. Payroll
Oil for Food bribery means sanctions against Iraq were doomed to fail."

M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 11:04 PM

The UN elected Kofi Annan, its first black Secretary General, after criticisms that it had not been dealing with various crises in Africa.
Many commentators including Nelson Mandela spoke out about the change in the US attitude towards the UN after Annan was voted in.

Racism makes countries ignore UN: Mandela

"When the (UN) secretaries-general were white, we never had the question of any country ignoring the United Nations but now that we have got the black secretaries-general like...Kofi Annan, certain countries that believe in white supremacy are ignoring the United Nations," he [Nelson Mandela] told reporters at the airport on his arrival. "We have to combat that without reservation," he said.

The link is to a an article in the archives of The Daily Times (Pakistan).

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 04:51 AM

Bearded Bruce;
    Would you explain to all of us [we already know the real answer, but we'd just like to know just how you get to your point of view] just how it is that Britain and the US of A come to be exempt from your criticism of the perceived failings of the United Nations Organisation? Aren't they both members of the United Nations? [ I almost said "fully paid up members"--but that wouldn't be quite true; the United States is miserably in default of its obligations in that respect]. Why don't you honestly admit that military power has completely corrupted the thinking of some powerful forces in America, to the extent that unilateralism is the favoured course for them, and to hell with the rest of the world? They should be aware of what happens to self-described "master races". They MUST come under the umbrella of the U.N. If they do not, global catastrophe will come again, and in a much more destructive form. Look at the history of the twentieth century.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 08:56 AM

Kofi Annan vs. Me
The United Nations is useless to blacks in Darfur. China will veto any meaningful action.


M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 09:01 AM

Kofi Annan said the late Palestinian President Yasser Arafat would be remembered for having led the Palestinians to accept the principle of peaceful co-existence with Israel.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 12:13 PM

hi Mr M

since you didnt read that Observer article, here's a bit more..
US 'hyping' Darfur genocide fears

Peter Beaumont
Sunday October 3, 2004
The Observer

American warnings that Darfur is heading for an apocalyptic humanitarian catastrophe have been widely exaggerated by administration officials, it is alleged by international aid workers in Sudan. Washington's desire for a regime change in Khartoum has biased their reports, it is claimed.

The government's aid agency, USAID, says that between 350,000 and a million people could die in Darfur by the end of the year. Other officials, including Secretary of State Colin Powell, have accused the Sudanese government of presiding over a 'genocide' that could rival those in Bosnia and Rwanda.

But the account has been comprehensively challenged by eyewitness reports from aid workers and by a new food survey of the region. The nutritional survey of Sudan's Darfur region, by the UN World Food Programme, says that although there are still high levels of malnutrition among under-fives in some areas, the crisis is being brought under control.

'It's not disastrous,' said one of those involved in the WFP survey, 'although it certainly was a disaster earlier this year, and if humanitarian assistance declines, this will have very serious negative consequences.' The UN report appears to confirm food surveys conducted by other agencies in Darfur which also stand in stark contrast to the dire US descriptions of the food crisis.

The most dramatic came from Andrew Natsios, head of USAID, who told UN officials: 'We estimate right now, if we get relief in we'll lose a third of a million people and, if we don't, the death rates could be dramatically higher, approaching a million people.'

A month later, a second senior official, Roger Winter, USAID's assistant administrator, briefed foreign journalists in Washington that an estimated 30,000 people had been killed during the on-going crisis in Darfur, with another 50,000 deaths from malnutrition and disease, largely among the huge populations fleeing the violence. He described the emergency as 'humanitarian disaster of the first magnitude'.

By 9 September Powell was in front of the Congressional Foreign Relations Committee accusing Sudan of 'genocide', a charge rejected by officials of both the European and African Unions and also privately by British officials. 'I've been to a number of camps during my time here,' said one aid worker, 'and if you want to find death, you have to go looking for it. It's easy to find very sick and under-nourished children at the therapeutic feeding centres, but that's the same wherever you go in Africa.'

Another aid worker told The Observer : 'It suited various governments to talk it all up, but they don't seem to have thought about the consequences. I have no idea what Colin Powell's game is, but to call it genocide and then effectively say, "Oh, shucks, but we are not going to do anything about that genocide" undermines the very word "genocide".'

While none of the aid workers and officials interviewed by The Observer denied there was a crisis in Darfur - or that killings, rape and a large-scale displacement of population had taken place - many were puzzled that it had become the focus of such hyperbolic warnings when there were crises of similar magnitude in both northern Uganda and eastern Congo. Concern about USAID's role as an honest broker in Darfur have been mounting for months, with diplomats as well as aid workers puzzled over its pronouncements and one European diplomat accusing it of 'plucking figures from the air'.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 01:48 AM

Kofi Annan is the top diplomat in the world, but today we need less diplomacy and more truth.

The truth is, Kofi Annan does not need to come to Harvard tomorrow, he needs to go to Sudan. He needs to be with the African Muslims in Darfur who are being slaughtered and dispossessed and starved to death. He needs to go to the South where Khartoum's militia has forced 100,000 Shilluks off their land. He needs to go to the North, and he needs to tell Khartoum to free the slaves.

There are tens of thousands of slaves like Francis Bok, still serving their masters in Sudan. Kofi Annan needs to tell the truth: For a decade Khartoum wages what it calls...what they call a Jihad against Christians and tribalists in the South.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 12:14 PM

Why should Kofi Annan or the UN cooperate with a beligerent Bush dictatorship? Who is the real arrogant asshole?

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 04:26 PM

I love watching liberal squirm when they have to defend the UN.   Kind of like watching the KKK defend their actions.   It is so swarmy you want to take a shower.   Especially all the liberals who claimed the solution for Iraq was to hand it over to the UN.   HA HA HA.

So what it they store 23 billions.   (per Fox News today)   People in Iraq should just be thankful they didn't steal 100 billion.   I mean you can't have enough presidential palaces and statues in a country.   And you have to blame Rowanda, Bosnia, and Sudan on Israel.   (one half of the UN resolutions concern Israel)   Since jews control all the media, politicians, and wealth in this world it is their fault for the genocides.   As the inspector for Kofi Annan said today.   Any inspection of the oil for food program would be too expensive and not worth the time.   You can't aruge with that kind of logic.... well I guess you can.    That is why the UN is a joke, Kofi Annan is an arrogrant asshole, and the people who defend the UN are moronic idiots.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 04:39 PM

Monday, 8 November, 2004,BBC news
UN body probing Sudan 'genocide'

A UN-appointed commission has arrived in Sudan to decide whether genocide has taken place in the region of Darfur.
The five-member panel has three months to reach a conclusion.

The United States has already called the situation in Darfur genocide but the Sudanese say the US declaration is politically motivated.
African Union mediators have been meeting separately with Sudanese government and Darfur rebels in ongoing peace talks in Abuja, Nigeria.

Speaking to the BBC, Sudanese Foreign Minister Mustafa Uthman Isma'il said Khartoum welcomed the commission's arrival because it was confident that no genocide had taken place.

Mr Isma'il said the US was the only country to assert genocide had occurred in Darfur and blamed rebels for the humanitarian, security, and political problem there.

A UN spokesman in Sudan, George Somerwill, said the body's mandate is to investigate of reports of violations of international law and human rights law in Darfur "by all parties" and to determine "whether or not acts of genocide have occurred and to identify the perpetrators of such violations".

Italian judge Antonio Cassese heads the body.

UN body probing Sudan 'genocide'

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 04:47 PM

Jewish people like anyone else have a range of different incomes, political views, and levels of control over their own or anyone else's life.

Jews themselves have been the victims of genocide, precisely because of views like the ones you stated in the last post. this thread is concerned about whether a genocide has occurred. Using it to bash Jews is sorta sick, dont you think?

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 08:22 PM

"Kofi Annan urged the Security Council on Wednesday to take swift action in the Darfur region of Sudan where he said violence was on the rise, the number of refugees was growing and the government was making little progress in disarming fighters responsible for the mayhem and intimidation that has displaced about 1.6 million people and resulted in more than 50,000 deaths...
"There are strong indications that war crimes and crimes against humanity have occurred in Darfur on a large and systematic scale," he said.."

"Saddam Hussein's regime made more than $21.3 billion in illegal revenue by subverting the U.N. oil-for-food program - more than double previous estimates, according to congressional investigators."
M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 02:51 AM

Larry K----when you climb upwards from the Fox News swamp, let's hear from you again.
   What the heck's all this frantic blue stuff???? Is this from Fox too?

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 10:30 AM

Molotov is not Larry K.

You can easily see where the article is from by reading the URL in the bottom bar while holding your mouse cursor over the link. Or you can click on it. I particularly avoid Fox News.


M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 10:53 AM

It must be very depressing for all of you to read yesterday that in a national poll Fox News was rated the most trusted news station in the country.   CNN was second.   NBC third.   ABC 4th CBS 5th MSNBC dead last.      HA HA HA HA HA

I know if really sucks when the facts get in the way of your argument.

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: sledge
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 11:10 AM

The UN may not be perfect but whos fault is that, it has a history of being manipulated by the superpowers in one way or another and one of those who has played it the most has been the US.

So LarryK, turn your intellect into researching the financial manipulation of the UN over the past few decades and see where it has been used as a tool of the US rather than an impartial independent body. If you look for yourself then you won't have to complain that I am feeding you sources you don't trust or are biased.

And now that the UN fails to kowtow to US foreign policy it is suddenly vilified as corrupt. Maybe they are not so worried about the finacial big stick anymore!

Sledge

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: GUEST,Molotov
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 11:23 AM

Sledge:

Read the Duelfer report.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: sledge
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 11:56 AM

All very interesting but so what? its a huge document how about you point me to the bit where the UN is discussed, thats the part of the disucssion I felt was of greater relevence, hence my post above in reply to Larryk and his broad attack on the UN. MWD have been done over and over ad nauseum.

Sledge

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: DougR
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 03:14 PM

Guest Molotov: you are fighting a losing battle. These folks don't want to hear anything critical of anybody (particularly a steller organization like the UN), unless it's the USA or Great Britian.

Do not attempt to confuse them with facts.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Kofi Annan is an arrogant asshole
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Nov 04 - 06:40 PM

"Facts" from Fox News[sic].

Right.

Its pointless to attempt to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.