Subject: Tune Add: MUCKIN' O' GEORDIE'S BYRE From: John in Brisbane Date: 16 Nov 98 - 06:57 PM Missing from the DT. From the original Midi at Barry Taylor's site - Regards, John
MIDI file: muckn_nu.mid Timebase: 120 TimeSig: 4/4 24 8 This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1 Also see Westering Home in the Digital Tradition |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: Barbara Date: 16 Nov 98 - 07:10 PM Y'know, John, a while back we had a thread on a song called 'Shit, I've Forgotten the Words' and someone posted that the tune was 'The Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre' so I looked for that in DT by searching "muckin*", and just like you found, there was no tune for 'Geordie's Byre'. However, 'Westering Home' came up, too, and it said there there WAS a tune for it, a tune called The Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre'. I haven't checked yet to see if yours is the same. Sometimes DT is a little labrynthine, but if you wander a little you may save yourself some typing. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: Bruce O. Date: 16 Nov 98 - 08:54 PM That's the modern tune for the modern song. There's another song "The mucking of Geordie's byre" in Scots Musical Museum, #96, said to have been by James Tyler. It's tune, however, is from earlier days, and any 'original' song, if there was one, is lost. See the Scots tunes index on my website for other copies of the old tune. |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: John in Brisbane Date: 16 Nov 98 - 09:40 PM Barbara, Thanks for the advice about the earlier thread. These days when I'm working with NoteWorthy Composer it's good practice for reading and writing the dots - I'm still awfully slow though. In this case however Barry Taylor had done all the real work (I gather) via his piano keyboard. His Midis are fantastic. Bruce, Other readers may not be aware that the 'Muckin ....' tune is used in a number of dances commonly done in Australian dance, and presumably descended from the Scottish Country Dance tradition (I know the tunes from playing for dances, but I've forgotten most of the dance details). Not coming from a horsey background it was some time after I first played the tune that i realised it meant 'shovelling the shit from Geordie's stable'. Perhaps someone else can enlighten me whether Geordie was an animal, a member of the nobility, or both. Regards John |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: Barbara Date: 16 Nov 98 - 10:16 PM John, the words and quite a bit of historical discussion are here: (click) in the database. As another member of the 'tune entering society'here I have also spent quite a while putting down the dots, only to discover the tune is already here in another thread or file. Like you said, it's good practice. blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: Keith Maynard Date: 17 Nov 98 - 04:39 AM I have just been introduced to this great song and would love to sing it. Does anybody have the Lyrics as sung by Andy Stewart ?? It differs quite a bit. There is a delightful verse sung in an awfully posh english voice "even the domesticated animals were consumed with glee, at the cleansing of georges cowshed" any help really be appreciated. |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: skw@ Date: 17 Nov 98 - 04:47 AM Keith - there is a far more 'authentic' recording of this, sung, I think, by Jimmy MacBeath, on the 'Bothy Ballads' CD (Scottish Tradition Series) reissued from the original LPs by Greentrax. Check their website: http://webzone1.co.uk/www/scotsweb/greentrax.htm.- Enjoy! Susanne |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: honestfrankie Date: 18 Jan 00 - 09:58 PM Hello Catters, Once again Robbie Burns Day is a'comen near and I am looking for someone who may have the words to the Andy Stewart(the daft one) version of The Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre. I found some other words and followed up an old thread on the forum where the merits of the more "Authentic" version are sung but I liked the Stewart version as it was the one me dear old mither used to listen twa. Thanks |
Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Muckin O' Geordie's Byre From: Grab Date: 19 Jan 00 - 01:14 PM This appears in a book I've got called "100 Fiddle Tunes" or something like that, featuring (surprisingly! ;-) 100 tunes to be played on a fiddle. Others are Morpeth Rant, Keel Row, Roaring Jelly (cracking name for a tune that!), plus 96 others. One day I may transcribe them, but I'll have to be _really_ stuck for anything else to do... Grab. |
Subject: Lyr Add: MUCKIN' O' GEORDIE'S BYRE (from MacBeath) From: toadfrog Date: 17 Dec 02 - 06:27 PM Some proposed patches for a very good song (allegedly Robert Burns's favorite). The version now on DT has holes in it, and occasionally some strange orthography ("strae and neep"??). The version below squares with the song as sung by Jimmy MacBeath, on Scottish Tradition 1 Tangent TNGM 109 (undated, but designated "MONO," so that the disk postdates the invention of stereo records)/ THE MUCKIN' O' GEORDIE'S BYREAt a lea-rig auld croft upon the hill, 'Round the nook be Sprottie's Mill, And a' his life the time to kill Lived Geordie MacIntyre. He had a wife as sweir as himsel', And a daughter as black's Old Nick himsel'. There were some fun, and awa' the smell At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. For the graip was tint, the besom was deen, The barra' wouldna' row its leen, And siccan a sarsies never was seen At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. Now the daughter had to strae her neeps. The auld wife started to swipe the greep, But Geordie fell sklite on a rotten neep At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. Ben the greep cam' Geordie's soo She slid up ahint the coo. The coo kick-ed oot and Oh, what a ste-ew At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre For the Auld wife she was booin' doon. The soo was kick-ed on the croon And shoved her heid in the wifie's goon And ben through Geordie's byre. The daughter cam' to the barn door And seein' her mother, let oot a roar. To the midden she run and fell o'er the boar At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. For the boar he louped the midden dyke And ower the rigs wi' Geordie's tyke. They baith ran into a bumbie's bike At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. The cocks and hens began to craw When biddie astride the soo they saw. The Postie's [?] sheltie it run awa' At the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. Oh a hundred years are passed and mair. Where Sprotties were, the hill is bare. The croft's awa' so ye'll see nae mair At' the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. His folks are deid and awa' lang syne, So in case his memory ye should tyne Just whistle this tune tae keep ye in mind O' the muckin' o' Geordie's byre. Singer: Jimmy McBeath, Tangent #109 Messages from multiple threads combined. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Joe_F Date: 17 Dec 02 - 06:48 PM The version sung by Ewan MacColl on _Bothy Ballads_ (FW 8759) is similar to this one. But it does say "strae an' neep", and he explains that as put straw down and dig turnips. "Strae her neeps" (put straw on her turnips) does seem more likely to me, but what do I know? "There were some fun, and awa' the smell" appears in his version as "There was plenty of fun awa' at his mill", which I find easier to parse. One of them is surely a mistake for the other. He also has "postie's shelty". |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: toadfrog Date: 19 Dec 02 - 02:33 AM I'm sure "postie's sheltie" has to be correct. I put the [?] by "postie" in hope someone would tell me, a non-Scot, what a "postie" is. I think probably "haud awa' the smell," which is how the DT has it, is probably correct, rather than my version. McColl's orthorgraphy is sometimes extremely odd, and I don't believe crofters usually had mills. But as you say, what do I know question mark. I first heard the song on McColl's Bothy Ballads. But that was 40 years ago, or so, and I don't recall exactly how he sang it. |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Cluin Date: 19 Dec 02 - 02:47 AM Found an MP3 file of the Andy Stewart (no M.) version of this one. Can't make out half of what he's singing though. It's pretty broad. |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: GUEST,davetnova Date: 19 Dec 02 - 08:07 AM A postie is a postman (mailman), a sheltie is a shetland pony. |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Big Tim Date: 19 Dec 02 - 10:01 AM "sheltie" could also be a shetland collie, a dog. |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Shonagh Date: 19 Dec 02 - 04:54 PM aat wis an affa pawsh version o the great bothy ballad! i hinna time tae post it noo, bit i'll pit up my version (mega choochter!) fan i hae the time! cheers, shonagh |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Big Tim Date: 19 Dec 02 - 05:48 PM Fae Huntly Shonagh? Bogie's bonnie belle, crap fitba team! |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Joe_F Date: 19 Dec 02 - 06:31 PM While I was in Scotland, I received an anonymous valentine whose envelope bore the inscription Postie, postie, dinna falter. This may take me to the altar. |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Snuffy Date: 19 Dec 02 - 08:04 PM It used to be: Postie, postie, don't be slow Be like Elvis - Go, man, go! |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Shonagh Date: 20 Dec 02 - 06:50 AM aye, good old huntly toon, an an ace fitba ta very much! :p |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Big Tim Date: 20 Dec 02 - 09:33 AM Or: Postie, postie, dae your stuff, take this tae ma wee plum duff! On reflection, I think sheltie is more likely to refer to a pony than a dog. Did postmen ever travel on horseback in the old days? |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: GUEST Date: 20 Dec 02 - 03:44 PM |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: GUEST Date: 20 Dec 02 - 03:45 PM |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: GUEST,Mac Tattie Date: 20 Dec 02 - 03:57 PM The tune is a vairient of "Bonnie Strathire". The song, as posted, was written and recorded by, music hall ledgend, hotell owner and enthsiastic motor cylcist, G.S. Morris, better known to his legion of fans in the bothies and the north east, as Geordie. Amoungst his other "hits" were, "A Pair 'o Nicky Tams", "Neeps Tae Pluck" and "Muckle Friday Fair". cheers |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: toadfrog Date: 20 Dec 02 - 04:45 PM I'm sure it's right that Morris wrote this version of the song (in 1876 I think), but isn't the song itself supposedly much older than that? I would swear I had heard Jean Redpath sing at least two versions different from this, to the same tune (but won't swear, because memories grow so faint). |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 20 Dec 02 - 05:11 PM Morris's song isn't a "version", but a separate song in its own right. There is indeed an older song by the same name (appearing in the Scots Musical Museum), but it's completely different. Different tune, too, if I remember right. |
Subject: RE: Lyr & Tune Add: Muckin' o' Geordie's Byre From: GUEST,Davetnova Date: 21 Dec 02 - 12:02 PM Postmen didn't travel on horseback but used the ponies to carry the the mailbags in the days befor motorised transport, especially in regions like the highlands, where the roads were often little more than tracks. Scotland's very own pony express. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE MUCKIN' O' GEORDIE'S BYRE (from Kemp) From: GUEST,Jim I Date: 22 Dec 02 - 01:48 AM The version I've got is (apparently) from Willie Kemp of Aberdeen but it seems to resemble Andy Stewart's version or at least what little I can remember of it. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the 'English' bit in it. I hope this comes out all right I'm not much good with HTML THE MUCKIN' O' GEORDIE'S BYRE
1. When I want tae start launchin' I think on the scene
2. The whisky gaed roon Tammy flee' in the doo
3. The first on the besom was Teeny McCrew
4. The bobby cam ower tae quell doon the soun
5. Geordie lay doon sayin' he wanted tae dee
6. Ane by ane coupit ower in the greip Words by Willie Kemp, Aberdeen, adapted from the original |
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